who has had a baptism?
who has had a baptism?
who has had a baptism?
I have
finally someone answeredOriginally Posted by Romeyo07
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Their faith is NOT in the Book itself but in the its Authorcan you please explain to me how you as a chritian do not have faith in a book yet you do practice its teachings?Christians do not get their faith from relics
imho, thats not a true christian... now i know i'm not one to talk much, as i havent REALLY been practicing lately, but if you call yourself a christian, then you should believe in the "book" that its based on. and from there, let your faith generate your good works/deeds etc.
ok so collins you have faith in the bible and its teachings? you think christians should have faith in the bible? you see yourself as christian? do you see the bible a relic (a reilgious artifact)? (definition of relic is below)
Something that has survived the passage of time and Something cherished for its age or historic interest
I have.
feel free to add what you like i'm sure you can see what i posted.
i have been baptised
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I have.
I have been baptized....
grand prix.....
Belief in the book, belief in God, belief in organized religion, and practicing Christianity are all differant things that can be done individually...one without the other
I am Christian but the church I attend does not do Baptism but if you want to be baptised that is your right to have done.
yes i do have faith in the bible and its teachings... now on another note, i do not agree with all of the interpretations of said teachings out there. i think one should read for one's self, and draw their own conclusions. i feel that if we ALWAYS go by what one particular denomination says, then things might be seen as skewed. again, i feel one should draw their own beliefs from their readings/logic.
admin is sorely confused on the subject of worship vs. following principles/advice/counsel
He just doesnt get the difference. Its been explained over and over in the simplest manner yet.....Oh well, maybe someday the light in his head will come on.
People who dont even know squat about the Bible or its principles can and do get baptized. Some get baptized merely because theyve been told to do so, some for other reasons.
Once again admin...your theory sinks like a rock.
i guess my theory fits right there w/ your idea of what CHRISTIANS do/don't do... for someone who seems to know everything its funny how other christians view the bible as a relic and base their faith off of it... i guess you possibly the only person alive who just out of the blue had this idea of god w/o any influence of the bible... man it must feel great to be as perfect as you.admin is sorely confused on the subject of worship vs. following principles/advice/counsel
He just doesnt get the difference. Its been explained over and over in the simplest manner yet.....
People who dont even know squat about the Bible or its principles can and do get baptized. Some get baptized merely because theyve been told to do so, some for other reasons.
Once again admin...your theory sinks like a rock.
Someone please explain baptism....
They I have come to believe it as you are washing your sins as a person, in the flesh...
grand prix.....
Actually your theory is like much of what you post in THIS forum...confusion.i guess my theory fits right there w/ your idea of what CHRISTIANS do/don't do... for someone who seems to know everything its funny how other christians view the bible as a relic and base their faith off of it... i guess you possibly the only person alive who just out of the blue had this idea of god w/o any influence of the bible... man it must feel great to be as perfect as you.
I am sorry youre threatened by any of my knowlege. Its interesting (and telling as well) that whenever your arguments fall apart you resort to calling me a "know it all". I dont know it all, just enough to show your lack of knowlege about the Bible and what true Christianity really consists of.
Biblical baptism is a ritual that symbolizes being crucified with Christ, putting away your old life of sin, and being raised with Christ into newness of life, walking with Him. Its done as an outward public sign of your acceptance of Christ.
BTW, baptism by sprinkling or of babies is not Biblical. Thats an adaptation of pagan practice.
There may be other definitions from other sources/religions.
I have had one, but I have since decided that chirstanity is a bunch of shit...no offense to the rest of ya...
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:jerkit: wow your so right again i'm so threatened by your knowlege... hmmm no not really, the best post you could come up w/ was i'm "confused" bahh ok. i quoted your words. and again your wrong. the bible is a relic and people do base faith on it... the they have faith in the practices such as the baptism... so for one who tries to speak so highly of his knowlege you would think you would learn some of what you read instead of merely recitingActually your theory is like much of what you post in THIS forum...confusion.
I am sorry youre threatened by any of my knowlege. Its interesting (and telling as well) that whenever your arguments fall apart you resort to calling me a "know it all". I dont know it all, just enough to show your lack of knowlege about the Bible and what true Christianity really consists of.
You have clearly proven in this subject discussion that you have little or no grasp on what worship is, especially in the Biblical sense.
Youre good at asking questions then pissing on the answers (as are a few others), also pissing on those who give the answers when they dont give the answer you want or prefer.
This questioning is also a method of "baiting" which can backfire when you dont "catch" what you want...and often your bait questions do just that.
Its also indeed interesting that when the same people who you say are so full of it happen to agree with you then they are practically genius..........and I quote....
Then, when I give thoughtful answers that don't suit you, or refute your foundation, suddenly I am a "know it all" and have "high opinion" of myself.
I guess the key is always agreeing with you no matter how ridiculous and unfounded your position may happen to be on a given day or subject.
I do think one day a light will go on in your mind and much of what we've discussed will make sense even if it doesnt now.
But you know what? To be really honest, outside of matching wits in this religion forum debate, in the larger sense our comparative knowlege matters little.....
Its not what we know but how much we live up to what we know that we all will be judged by.
i don't have a grasp on "worship" i didn't know we were dicussing worship... oh ya i forgot you jumped in this thread to have a pissing contest b/c you didn't like i quoted you from previous thread. ok lets gets this straight, you jumped in this thread attacking me on my credibility b/c i quoted you. do you feel better now?You have clearly proven in this subject discussion that you have little or no grasp on what worship is, especially in the Biblical sense.
Youre good at asking questions then pissing on the answers (as are a few others), also pissing on those who give the answers when they dont give the answer you want or prefer.
there is nothing baited in my questioning, i am merely showing you the facts that other "christians" do not view things exactly as you try to think "CHRISTIANS DO/DONOT"... straight forward questions got straight forward answers. you just don't like your words being used against you.This questioning is also a method of "baiting" which can backfire when you dont "catch" what you want...and often your bait questions do just that.
Its also indeed interesting that when the same people who you say are so full of it happen to agree with you then they are practically genius..........and I quote....
furthermore, i don't just agree w/ people that have the same opinion i've mention many a time your extensive knowlege on the matter the problem w/ you is it goes to your head and when you butt heads w/ someone you are ultimately right.
again please show me and the rest of the board where you posted anything constructive to the thread and i quote your first post "admin is sorely confused on the subject of worship vs. following principles/advice/counsel" we are not discussing worship we are discussing Baptism. You cleary have issues w/ moving on.Then, when I give thoughtful answers that don't suit you, or refute your foundation, suddenly I am a "know it all" and have "high opinion" of myself.
I guess the key is always agreeing with you no matter how ridiculous and unfounded your position may happen to be on a given day or subject.
ok... in that case you better step up your game.Its not what we know but how much we live up to what we know that we all will be judged by.
Therein lies your problem.
Once again, you pretend to judge what you are completely incapable of judging...now or ever.ok... in that case you better step up your game.
I dont want to get in any kind of arguement over religion with you, but WOW Baptism symbolizes what Jesus went through?!!?!?!? Man I dont even want to get into this...
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Sorry dude, your premise in asking this question was yet another weak attempt to prove the Christians worship the Bible by following its counsel.
I think you made that abundantly clear.
Also, I need not show you and the rest of the board anything. But thanks for asking.
I think you may have misunderstood that...at least in part, baptism symbolizes death of the "old" man (life of sin) and being "raised" into newness of life, the Christian walk with Christ.
Death and ressurection are part of it in a symbolic sense.
I am speaking of Biblical baptism here....there may be other types.
actually i can judge who i want i'm not christian i dont' have to follow your rules/belief system; also they were your words so i guess you think you don't have to live by what you preach... hmm fittingOnce again, you pretend to judge what you are completely incapable of judging...now or ever.
actually no your wrong. i was proving that your statements were false, that is why i quoted them for any misunderstanding but again your infinate wisdom didn't catch that it lead you to believe i had other intentions... sucks for you, you look like an ass again.Sorry dude, your premise in asking this question was yet another weak attempt to prove the Christians worship the Bible by following its counsel.
I think you made that abundantly clear.
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Those "rules" are not a matter of choice. Your belief changes nothing even one little bit.actually i can judge who i want i'm not christian i dont' have to follow your rules/belief system; also they were your words so i guess you think you don't have to live by what you preach... hmm fitting
You or I have no ability to judge another, its not possible regardless of belief.
I have never judged you. I know better. You have the notion that if you don't beleive in something it doesnt apply to you. That couldnt be farther from reality. But keep dreaming that way if it suits you.
all rules are choice, i can judge who i want, i dont' try to hold myself to the laws of a book, and your one to talk about judgingThose "rules" are not a matter of choice. Your belief changes nothing even one little bit.
You or I have no ability to judge another, its not possible regardless of belief.
I have never judged you. I know better. You have the notion that if you don't beleive in something it doesnt apply to you. That couldnt be farther from reality. But keep dreaming that way if it suits you.holy shit i dont' even need to quote some of the things you've posted.
do you think that my god will hold you acountable no matter what you believe? NO. b/c you dont' believe in my god. so who is dreaming; sounds like you need to follow the shit that spills off your tongue.
Keep dreaming.
You can attempt to judge whomever you wish, your attempt is totally in vain however.
You dont possess any power to make it a reality. No human does. And youre no exception.
Ultimate Judgement is coming for all of us regardless of our/your opinions of it.
Alas, time will tell .....
oh your right and my god has already spoken your fuckedwho is judging who here? ok.
Ok look Metal.... I am a Christian. Paul is not. Seems to me like you are trying to push our religion on him. Paul is a good guy with a great heart. So what if he doesn't have the same beliefs that we do. We are not the ones to judge him.
I am neither judging Paul or anyone else here. For all I know he might end up in heaven at the side of Christ. I hope he does for that matter. Neither do I think he's an evil person, I actually like him, he's just confused on a few subjects that we discuss from time to time.
I am simply stating that judgement is coming for all....no matter what we think. Its the duty of all christians to share that fact. Its part of the gospel commission.
I am not asking anyone to join my denomination, I belong to none. I am not forcing anyone to do anything....except maybe think about something they'd like to forget and ignore.
As a history buff I can tell you that in all of history whenever someone speaks the plain truth its rarely recieved with accolades and applause, on the contrary, it generally upsets the apple cart of misguided human dreams and wishes and sometimes even ticks people off. Thats the very nature of truth. People would prefer to be left to their fantasies. I certainly don't expect there to be an exception now.
Well you can only beat a subject to a point until it seems like you are trying to pressure the person you are talking to into believing the same as you. You get what Im trying to say?
One thing you also have to realize as a Christain, if people dont want to hear it, dont push it. And God always backs up what he says...So please show us proof with scripture of your findings, and truths.I am neither judging Paul or anyone else here. For all I know he might end up in heaven at the side of Christ. I hope he does for that matter. Neither do I think he's an evil person, I actually like him, he's just confused on a few subjects that we discuss from time to time.
I am simply stating that judgement is coming for all....no matter what we think. Its the duty of all christians to share that fact. Its part of the gospel commission.
I am not asking anyone to join my denomination, I belong to none. I am not forcing anyone to do anything....except maybe think about something they'd like to forget and ignore.
As a history buff I can tell you that in all of history whenever someone speaks the plain truth its rarely recieved with accolades and applause, on the contrary, it generally upsets the apple cart of misguided human dreams and wishes and sometimes even ticks people off. Thats the very nature of truth. People would prefer to be left to their fantasies. I certainly don't expect there to be an exception now.
And as a history buff myself, you are correct that the truth alot of people dont want to hear. But the truth is the best way of life. So please show us the truth.
grand prix.....
Obviously you must have just arrived here, and have not read many posts by me. I have posted much on many subjects and given much proof from the Bible. I don't hesitate to do so. And I agree, God does, and will back up what He says.
Obviously you must have just arrived here, and have not read many posts by me. I have posted much on many subjects and given much proof from the Bible. I don't hesitate to do so. And I agree, God does, and will back up what He says.
Actually you are correct I rarely come into this thread and argue over religion..But in the posts that I have seen you havent backed anything up! Now the only posts I have seen was in the Spear of Jesus thread, and the God without bible thread, and the Baptism thread!
grand prix.....
Thats what I thought..., I understand where youre coming from then.
When you have a "history" of discussion with certain people its not always apparent to everyone that might read it.
ok so what your ultimately admiting is your going to have an agenda w/ any discussion i'm in... ok good clarification. maybe you should just grow up dude. you went from one thread to 3 more just to have a pissing contest w/ me wow. do you feel better nowThats what I thought..., I understand where youre coming from then.
When you have a "history" of discussion with certain people its not always apparent to everyone that might read it.?
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