Spear of Jesus (Discorvery special)

[Xan]

I'm not a Christian nor have I read the bible, but what Metalman is saying makes perfect sense. Christians don't worship the "book." They worship what it teachs. Sure the bible was written by men, but according to Christian belief it was God who gave these words to man. The cross is a symbol of faith not to be worshiped, but to serve as a reminder that God gave his only son for the sins of mankind. I don't see how worshiping the Bible and worshiping the word of God, (even though it is found in the Bible), can be seen as the same thing.

[4dmin]

I'm not a Christian nor have I read the bible, but what Metalman is saying makes perfect sense. Christians don't worship the "book." They worship what it teachs. Sure the bible was written by men, but according to Christian belief it was God who gave these words to man. The cross is a symbol of faith not to be worshiped, but to serve as a reminder that God gave his only son for the sins of mankind. I don't see how worshiping the Bible and worshiping the word of God, (even though it is found in the Bible), can be seen as the same thing.

again i never said you put the book on an alter and pray to the book... that is easy to grasp, but the point is people do worship the bible, they may not know it but they do. read the definition of worship and don't tell me it doesn't fit like a glove. its like saying the bible isn't a relic... umm ok, i guess they must have different dictionarys for christians b/c they obviously don't have the same meaning w/ words in the english language.

go ask your neighbor if he/she worships the bible... do i even need to wait for the answer to that question. ok.

[Xan]

again i never said you put the book on an alter and pray to the book... that is easy to grasp, but the point is people do worship the bible, they may not know it but they do. read the definition of worship and don't tell me it doesn't fit like a glove. its like saying the bible isn't a relic... umm ok, i guess they must have different dictionarys for christians b/c they obviously don't have the same meaning w/ words in the english language.

go ask your neighbor if he/she worships the bible... do i even need to wait for the answer to that question. ok.

My neighbors woship God. People don't pray to the Bible. People don't ask the Bible for forgiveness. The Bible may be a relic to some, but Metalman pointed out that "Christians" in the generic sense don't worship the Bible. They worship it's teachings because they were supposedly handed down by God. Muslims journey to wherever to worship a meteor. They see it as the symbol of the faith. It defines their God. The Christian Bible doesn't define their God. It only represents what he teaches. Saying that reading a book in search of answers is "worship" of said book is absurd. I read History books in search of the past. Does that mean I worship my history book? Do people worship self help books because they read them in search of ways to enrich their lives?

[4dmin]

My neighbors woship God. People don't pray to the Bible. People don't ask the Bible for forgiveness. The Bible may be a relic to some, but Metalman pointed out that "Christians" in the generic sense don't worship the Bible. They worship it's teachings because they were supposedly handed down by God. Muslims journey to wherever to worship a meteor. They see it as the symbol of the faith. It defines their God. The Christian Bible doesn't define their God. It only represents what he teaches. Saying that reading a book in search of answers is "worship" of said book is absurd. I read History books in search of the past. Does that mean I worship my history book? Do people worship self help books because they read them in search of ways to enrich their lives?

well i didn't ask you what you think their answer was i asked what their answer was? that is my point any christian will say they worship the bible. its not that hard of a question.

metalman said the bible isn't a relic nor do christians have faith in it, so i don't think you read the entire thread. there is a difference between the bible and your HS history book. you would not worship your history book b/c it isn't a book of faith. if your history book was the gateway to your god and it was a religious relic then yes you would worship it.

[Xan]

well i didn't ask you what you think their answer was i asked what their answer was? that is my point any christian will say they worship the bible. its not that hard of a question.

metalman said the bible isn't a relic nor do christians have faith in it, so i don't think you read the entire thread. there is a difference between the bible and your HS history book. you would not worship your history book b/c it isn't a book of faith. if your history book was the gateway to your god and it was a religious relic then yes you would worship it.

That is the answer from 4 of my co-workers. Maybe you should amend your question if you don't like the answer. "Do you worship God or the Bible?" Your assumption that I "assumed" what their answers would be shows that you are firm in your standing and have no intent of changing your views. That said, why are we still arguing about this? You can't "unknowingly" worship something. If you can give me one instance of anyone "not knowing they worship something, but they do" then it will validate your argument much more. Worship is all in the intention. When you worship something you'll know.

[4dmin]

That is the answer from 4 of my co-workers. Maybe you should amend your question if you don't like the answer. "Do you worship God or the Bible?" Your assumption that I "assumed" what their answers would be shows that you are firm in your standing and have no intent of changing your views. That said, why are we still arguing about this? You can't "unknowingly" worship something. If you can give me one instance of anyone "not knowing they worship something, but they do" then it will validate your argument much more. Worship is all in the intention. When you worship something you'll know.

ok so you and metalman both say you can not reverent love and devotion for the bible... people don't kill in its name? ok i guess i must be way out in left field then.

[metalman]

People don't pray to the Bible. People don't ask the Bible for forgiveness.

Indeed!!!!!

The Christian Bible doesn't define their God. It only represents what he teaches. Saying that reading a book in search of answers is "worship" of said book is absurd. I read History books in search of the past. Does that mean I worship my history book? Do people worship self help books because they read them in search of ways to enrich their lives?

Well put. I read and study history intently...I certainly don't worship it.
As has been said, those who don;t know their history are likely to repeat it!
Same with the history contained in the Bible.