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    hey guys

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    Wow I didnt know there was so much confusion on what I am saying..

    first off..

    I never claimed I OWN anything but my car..
    I never said I want to sue ANYONE..
    I never claimed to be the first to do ANYTHING..
    I never invented fender flares..
    I never invented audi door handles.. ahah
    I never invented Vintage Trans Am racing or the usual modifications for it.
    etc..


    All im saying is this.

    The whole combination.. all of it.. TOGETHER is more than just a coincidence.
    For those who dont follow the pro touring movement and firstgen camaros in the first place immediately write off what im talking about as bull because they say everything has been done to a firstgen.. and to a degree in parts yes.. but the full combination of what was done on my car.. I would say only "Bumblebee" did practically all the same modifications.

    look.. look at the whole thing as a whole..

    Vengeance is a 1967.. ------------- Bumblebee is a 1967
    Audi door handles(because i was a mk3-er) ------------- Vette style handles that look like mine
    Blacked out wing windows ------------- Blacked out wing windows
    Front stabilizer bars ------------- Front stabilizer bars
    CF chinspoiler ------------- CF chinspoiler
    NewGen wheels in 19s ------------- NewGen wheels in 19s
    grey centers with gloss black lips ------------- grey centers with gloss black lips
    stepped lips(as the company couldnt make 18s in stepped) ------------- stepped lips
    shaved front lower valance.. ------------- shaved front lower valance.
    Vision mirrors(my old setup) ------------- Vision mirrors
    removed front window trim ------------- removed front window trim
    completely blacked out grille ------------- completely blacked out grille
    full length bumblebee stripe in carbon ------------- full length bumblebee stripe in yellow.



    now.. none of those things above EITHER of us is the inventor of.. nor either of us is claiming.

    but AS A WHOLE.. TOTAL PACKAGE..

    isnt it a bit suspicious?

    heres a pic of my car with the flares on comparison..



    so with just a little pshop put a yellow stripe and take of my GranSport stripes





    Can you all at least just put yourself in my shoes.. I do think its cool and im not mad just a little bummed.. just I know whats going to happen.. which some of you already said..

    so please stop with the "he wants to get a suit going with Paramount"

    Hell I would have been happy if they put Venny in the movie.. like if I was driving her by Bumblebee and it stops him in his tracks and scans it like the first movie to copy.. I would be STOKED on that!
    it would be a strait up "Hey optimus.. did you see that black camaro?.. hold up im going to change into thug mode"

    Id be proud then..

    but damn can i not have ANY credit for doing as a whole what i did to a 67 camaro?.. not in its individual parts but as a whole?.. please find another 67 with the EXACT same combinations of modifications.. all of them.. together on one car like mine... bumblebee happens to count off all on the checklist.

    oh.. and funny thing is the guys that folks posted above suchs as the One Lap camaro are my homies.. we WOULD share similar modifications..


    but other than that.. guys im cool.. please dont make this about money cause I have my own.. and I aint mad yall.. I really am not.


    I just wanted to let it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVengeance View Post
    but damn can i not have ANY credit for doing as a whole what i did to a 67 camaro?.. not in its individual parts but as a whole?.. please find another 67 with the EXACT same combinations of modifications.. all of them.. together on one car like mine... bumblebee happens to count off all on the checklist.
    I would think no, you put your car out on a public forum and promoted it, once you make it public, you acknowledge its up for copying. you enjoyed the publicity you got from it, this is one of the by products.

    You cant patent a cars looks.

    If Bay saw a picture of the car and decided thats what he wanted, you should be happy you inspired someone. Hopefully he says "man i saw this camaro on ???????? and thats the direction we went with"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    I would think no, you put your car out on a public forum and promoted it, once you make it public, you acknowledge its up for copying. you enjoyed the publicity you got from it, this is one of the by products.
    I don't think he's worried about the legality of it all, or even compensation... it's more the fact of someone trying to get the kudos for the creativity and correct combination of the elements that built it. There's probably some creative director in their offices who feels like king shit right now. They all pat him on the back on the way in to the office in the mornings for his awesome bumblebee 2013 concept.

    It wouldn't really matter if it was something that was more of an 'inspired by' type of thing, this looked like it took work to blatantly do. It's not a few parts here and there, it's like the exact same build and build style, which is something someone created from the bottom up.

    Not only did they have to analyze exactly the same shit, they'd have to source it- for that of course it took research. During that research I'm sure they found him and how to reach him, but didn't want to give props for a badass design, but thought it was nice enough to use in their multi-million $ movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post

    Not only did they have to analyze exactly the same shit, they'd have to source it- for that of course it took research. During that research I'm sure they found him and how to reach him, but didn't want to give props for a badass design, but thought it was nice enough to use in their multi-million $ movie.
    so does everyone with a black widow style 2 body kit get pissed off at Gone in 60 Seconds?



    You telling me no one ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on planet earth has a car that could be confused with Vengenaces car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    You telling me no one ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on planet earth has a car that could be confused with Vengenaces car?
    A lay person who doesn't know shit about cars maybe could confuse them but not anyone who knows anything about pro-touring or first gen camaros at all. If you find one that matches Vengeance's mods more closely than Bumblebee does, I will throw in $100 of my own on top of Vengeances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
    so does everyone with a black widow style 2 body kit get pissed off at Gone in 60 Seconds?



    You telling me no one ABSOLUTELY NO ONE on planet earth has a car that could be confused with Vengenaces car?
    Always thought it was cool they had an Si in that movie but ridiculous they had it in a race against a Porsche.
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