What part of "Upon this rock, Peter, I will build my church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against. And I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven, whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matt 16:18) Do you not understand? Yes, Christ is the Church but he gave the authority to Peter (Our Lord says it right there) and his successors to carry on the truths of the faith after he ascended in heaven, and if you disagree that is not my fault, but your lack of faith in what Christ has said.
You say there was no church before the Holy Ghost fell upon Mary and the Apostles, which is true, because they did not start to publicly go out until after that, but Christ said Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH. What do you not understand about that? It is plain as day. So simple.
Upon this rock Peter I will build my church. Sounds like he's the leader to me, seeing as how Christ gave him the keys to the kingdom of heaven, and not the other apostles. If you read early church documents, they all refer to the bishop of Rome as the head of the visible church on earth. Jesus Christ started Christianity not St. Paul. The romans did not eventually start the Catholic Church, you should read the letter of St. Ignatius of Antioch who was a bishop ordained by the apostles, he called the church Catholic before even all the apostles were dead.St. Peter was not the leader of the church. He was one of the elders and the one responsible for bringing truth to the Jews. Paul was the one responsible for bringing truth to the gentiles. He could be considered the one that started the Christian movement throughout the known world at the time. He even preached to the romans who eventually believed and started the Catholic church. I am sorry but in no way shape or form is the Catholic church the way to salvation.
I am sorry you choose to ignore my previous arguments about why it is the true faith and just dismiss it as not being the true church, that is the saddest part. If you were humble and studied the truth of the faith and its historical context you would see the truth I am speaking of.
This is just sheer ignorance. No where anywhere in scripture does it say that "a personal relationship with Christ is the only means to salvation." Not one place does it say that. Nor does scripture say that scripture is the only authority of Christianity. Priests have the authority to forgive sins, just as the apostles did, if you don't think that is the case then you need to go read some history books because the apostles heard confessions and so did the priests and bishops they ordained, any other position is just a lie, flat out. The teaching of the Catholic Church is not corrupted, so if you can show me where it is, I will be glad to debunk the Satanic lie about it. The Catholic Church is the only true church, there is no other. You have to separate the sins of those in the church from its teaching in order to understand.A PERSONAL relationship is. Third, no one and i mean NO ONE on earth has the power to give absolution. The blood Jesus shed on calvary is the forgiveness of sins, we are to repent and ask forgiveness and turn away from that sin. The Holy Spirit dwelling in the believer allows him to live a clean and righteous life. The Catholic church may have been the first major business function called " church " but the apostolic movenment was the FIRST church and the only body of Christ. There is only ONE true doctrine and that is the one taught by Christ, not some corrupted, scandalizing, false catholic church.
The Lord is ashamed by some members of the Catholic Church, of course, they are sinful men, no one in their right mind can deny it, but the doctrine of the Catholic faith will stand forever because it is the only true doctrine revealed by Christ through the Church he founded on St. Peter and the apostles. You're right I do pray to the saints that they may intercede at the throne of the Lamb in heaven and pray for me to God that I may attain salvation, no where in scripture or tradition does it say I worship them as God, in fact, scripture affirms that it is a holy thing to ask the saints to pray for us. I also do not worship the pope, but I believe he is the successor of St. Peter, since we can trace every pope back to St. Peter. The pope is a bishop, he is not God. I do not worship him.The catholic church is set up of corruptness that makes the Lord ashamed that they claim His name. You all pray to the saints and worship the pope as if he were Christ. My friend there is only ONE AUTHORITY to which a believer is to bow down and obey, Jesus Christ, our Lord and our God. Please do not take this offensively, I am just tired of the devil spreading False doctrine. if you wish to have a real talk give me a call, i can pm you my number.
by the way, i invite you to a service at my church, then you can tell me if God is in that place or not.
You are right there is only one authority, Jesus Christ, whom I obey by obeying his Church which he founded on the rock of St. Peter, who speaks in His name, as Christ told them to do so, whoever hears you hears me, as he told the apostles, and whom the apostles told to their successors.
I would love to talk, but I would never go to a place of heretical worship, that is a mortal sin, and God does not dwell there because the mass is not said there. Please pm me if you would like to talk sometime.




Reply With Quote