Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
One does not need to go into the Bible to see what it says about good and evil. Human life is a beautiful thing, the birth of a baby is a beautiful thing, so then, would it be evil or right ( without using your morals ) to go after a newborn child is brought into the world, to go and snatch that child and kill it? The answer is quite simply yes. One does not need to read any book or the Word of God to see this. Evil does exist without good. Evil could simply be defined as any selfish act without concern for the effects it may have on others or the consequenes. Good on the other hand can be defined as any selfless act of charity ( love ) without the expectation of reward. Therefore evil does not need good nor does good need evil for either of these to be present.
For anything you consider to be evil I can give you an example of a society from sometime in history where it was not considered evil. Killing a newborn? StreetHazard answered that one.

Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
I ask you this, if not God, then who or what or how do we as a society know what is good or evil, right or wrong, selfish or selfless? If not because of God, why are we not a selfish society that puts ourselves and our needs first? Where did good and evil come from then if not from God and sin?
We know what right and wrong by thinking about the effects and seeing the consequences of a particular rule. Let's say there were no morals to start with, you may try stealing from a neighbor because hey, you want what he has. The next day he steals something from you. Eventually you both may figure out that just agreeing not to steal from eachother would be a lot easier for both of you and thus a moral rule is born. Of course these things take time. Think of how long it took us to agree that slavery was wrong.