Quote Originally Posted by geoff
i find it humurous that people claim that i cant use scripture as proof or that its not valid enough. the point is that you are trying to ask me to prove God and you say that He cant be real or He is imaginary by using scripture themselves and try to say that He cant be what the word says He is so He is not real. funny how the bible is used to try and disprove Him and say that it contradicts itself and some of you use that but i in turn am not allowed to use biblical arguments because they are not " valid " enough for proof but ok to use as disproving Him.
What...you didnt know there was a double standard. It goes both ways though because there are believers who do this same thing.


That's just me, and I *think* sport122 is the same. Now this approach allows my worldview to change and grow as I gain new info, which is the downfall of most "religions", and where science has them beat - they are too static. I see science and spirituality as two sides to the same coin. Something I always tell ppl is "where science ends, spirituality begins". It's ultimately describing the same continuum of reality. And as we learn more things about our universe, it obviously has to be able to grow and change with it.
The rejection to change is also present in the sciences (social and natural). People don't realize how many versions of theories like evolution, and dark matter there are. This is because the rejection to change is not about the institution its about the individual. And because I do not believe science to be evil, I cannot assume its problems come from the core of the institution as much as it comes from people interpreting and altering its original intent, much like they do the institutions of government, politics (not the same as gov't), education, religion etc etc.

Ironically this same thing that I believe to be demonstrated in our world is also demonstrated about us in the Bible. The very fact that some would say the bible can't be trusted because its too old, is based off of the mindset that we know men often ruin things for whatever good they may have been. The reason we have become skeptical of ourselves is also evidence of that mindset.