Should same sex marriage be legalized?

[RL...]

I think it should not be.

But the real question underlying this one is whether homosexuality is ok or not.

I think lesbians are acceptable, but gay men aren't. That might seem as a double standard, but the way women and men interact and socialize with each other are different on many levels. Or maybe I'm just biased because I like girls and don't understand how or why a guy couldn't find one attractive/desireable/fuckable.

Homosexuality is becoming more and more socially acceptable and 4 states have now legalized same sex marriage.

I don't want my son growing up watching tv and seeing two guys kissing. He might then want to experiment thinking that's natural and ok. Like I said, if gay ppl want to be together then do it behind closed doors...or atleast be sutble about it

[EJ25RUN]

So i guess you too saw the pageant girl read off a card?

[81911SC]

I'm not saying if I support it or not but who are you to tell others how to live their lives?

[Vteckidd]

No it should not be legalized cause if it is it opens the door to way more other things.

I could care less of homosexxuality is "right" or "wrong". The moral side doesnt concern me, its more of the legal side.

I mean, the mainstream hardcore section of this country which is the MAJORITY, is straight, man and woman marriage. That is the view of this country. We should not pander to a small population who thinks they should be the normality.

If gays want to get state married, so be it, im not against them being married. What i am against, is them wanting the SAME protections, benefits of a normal married couple.

Im also not in favor of gays adopting kids either. I still think it is not the NORMAL situation and subjecting or raising a child to believe that it is normal, is wrong. Society determines what is moral or normal, and so far, it isnt gay marriage .

They chose that lifestyle, they should deal with the consequences which is not having the same perks as a normal married couple. Its kinda like a nun to me, she chose a life of celibacy, no one made her do it.

I think homosexuality is a choice, not genetic.

[Scotsman]

No it should not be legalized cause if it is it opens the door to way more other things.

I could care less of homosexxuality is "right" or "wrong". The moral side doesnt concern me, its more of the legal side.

I mean, the mainstream hardcore section of this country which is the MAJORITY, is straight, man and woman marriage. That is the view of this country. We should not pander to a small population who thinks they should be the normality.

If gays want to get state married, so be it, im not against them being married. What i am against, is them wanting the SAME protections, benefits of a normal married couple.

Im also not in favor of gays adopting kids either. I still think it is not the NORMAL situation and subjecting or raising a child to believe that it is normal, is wrong. Society determines what is moral or normal, and so far, it isnt gay marriage .

They chose that lifestyle, they should deal with the consequences which is not having the same perks as a normal married couple. Its kinda like a nun to me, she chose a life of celibacy, no one made her do it.

I think homosexuality is a choice, not genetic.

[redrumracer]

no

[redrumracer]

oh and i agree with mike.

[AirMax95]

I agree with Mike here also.

[patrick4588]

ditto.

[bafbrian]

Legalize it.

If you are curious why, go read the 14th Amendment, Section 1.

If your argument is that gay marriage is not what that amendment is meant for, it is all about interpretation just as with any other law, statue, ordinance, and so forth.

[RL...]

I'm not saying if I support it or not but who are you to tell others how to live their lives?

I'm not trying to tell anyone how to live their lives, I'm just voicing my opinion on an online forum because I have nothing better to do, which is why I think we all browse this forum as much as we do. I am not starting a movement or rallying against this, I just made a thread. Plz stop taking this forum stuff too seriously.

[RL...]

No it should not be legalized cause if it is it opens the door to way more other things.

I could care less of homosexxuality is "right" or "wrong". The moral side doesnt concern me, its more of the legal side.

I mean, the mainstream hardcore section of this country which is the MAJORITY, is straight, man and woman marriage. That is the view of this country. We should not pander to a small population who thinks they should be the normality.

If gays want to get state married, so be it, im not against them being married. What i am against, is them wanting the SAME protections, benefits of a normal married couple.

Im also not in favor of gays adopting kids either. I still think it is not the NORMAL situation and subjecting or raising a child to believe that it is normal, is wrong. Society determines what is moral or normal, and so far, it isnt gay marriage .

They chose that lifestyle, they should deal with the consequences which is not having the same perks as a normal married couple. Its kinda like a nun to me, she chose a life of celibacy, no one made her do it.

I think homosexuality is a choice, not genetic .

You make some good points

[81911SC]

I'm not trying to tell anyone how to live their lives, I'm just voicing my opinion on an online forum because I have nothing better to do, which is why I think we all browse this forum as much as we do. I am not starting a movement or rallying against this, I just made a thread. Plz stop taking this forum stuff too seriously.

I'm not taking anything serious. This is what I'm talking about.

Like I said, if gay ppl want to be together then do it behind closed doors...or atleast be sutble about it

[Vteckidd]

Legalize it.

If you are curious why, go read the 14th Amendment, Section 1.

If your argument is that gay marriage is not what that amendment is meant for, it is all about interpretation just as with any other law, statue, ordinance, and so forth.

unfortunetly its not that simple a process.

If its made legal, that opens issues up that we cant possibly deal with right now.

If Gay marriage is allowed, then what about transgender trans-sexuals, post op, pre-op, animals, lol etc

I mean pretty much you legalize Gay Marriage , that will open the flood gates to all other sorts of marriage and legal stuff .

Like i said, they can be married all they want at the state level, but i dont think they should be afforded the same rights and privledges as others. Human rights, YES, marital rights, NO.

Giving them the same rights as normal married couples, well thats like giving illegal aliens welfare checks or free healthcare.

The real problem behind gay marriage is they want a man and a man or a women and a women to be able to be covered under medical care, insurance, and other liabilities. They want the same tax breaks regular married couples get. They want to be able to adopt a child and get the same tax breaks.

I dont agree with the gay lifestyle, but im not saying they should all die or burn or anything. I just think they need to realize, they are a MINORITY and they must understand that majority rules.

Its like affirmative action, why should we promote a black or latino because there is less of them? i believe in best person for the job, REGARDLESS of color.

[TIGERJC]

I see no problem with allowing gays to get marry. Do I agree with thier choice? no, but I do agree they should be happy and have the same rights as me and others in this country. I understand the legality problems that may arise. but so what, there will always be some people out thier that will always try to take advantage of the system no matter what (ex. taxes,welfare)

On one side I am against homosexuals adopting, but on the other side I feel a child deserves to be loved and I rather that child grow up with loving parents no matter what that parent's sexual preferrence is. With people going overseas to adopt or doing the test tube, I feel homossexuals should be allowed to adopt even though I don't agree with it.

[BanginJimmy]

gay marriage does not affect me or anyone that has posted in any negative or positive way at all. Insurance? No difference in my daily life. Taxes? No difference in my daily life. Traffic? No difference in my daily life. If 2 consenting adults want to get married, go for it.

I do understand the reservations against adopting though. I do not believe that a homosexual household is an environment that assures a proper upbringing. There are far too many studies that show that as unstable as a average heterosexual household it, homosexual ones are even less stable.

[Bruce Leroy]

If gay people want to get married, then let them. At the end of the day, it does not bother me.

If Gay marriage is allowed, then what about transgender trans-sexuals, post op, pre-op, animals, lol etc

Someone can already legally change their birth certificate after they get surgery.

The real problem behind gay marriage is they want a man and a man or a women and a women to be able to be covered under medical care, insurance, and other liabilities. They want the same tax breaks regular married couples get. They want to be able to adopt a child and get the same tax breaks.

And the problem is?? They are people just like you and me. And they are in REAL relationships that have problems, just like regular married people. Let them have the tax break.

And as far as adoption... Ideally a kid should be in a heterosexual home, but there are WAY to many kids that need permanent homes to be picky about it. Would you rather a child like in a foster home or orphanage, Or have a home?

[dartingd]

On a religious side, I will never be for homosexuality. It seems that as a chirstian, I'm becoming the minority in this nation now, though.

[punkr6]

On a religious side, I will never be for homosexuality. It seems that as a chirstian, I'm becoming the minority in this nation now, though.

X2

[thepolecat]

let them get married- many of the ones who are "partners" have been together longer than the married couples in this counrty.
as for it being a choice- in some cases maybe for the shock value, but the majority of gay people it is natural.
No one had to tell me I like the muff- I just knew ( and from an early age!) same with gay people- they are just attracted to the same sex- they dont know why just as you dont know why you spend 75% in the red like district staring at roast beef.


But as for adoption- I dont know- there are alot of good parents, but i think it would confuse the kid too much.

[thepolecat]

and as for religion I am supposed to tell them they are burning in hell even though it was a common thing in the day to "lay with boy in bed"


and i am reallly becoming a minority as a prodestant, educated, land owning, white male---- I am the root of all eveil in the world according to many. of well.

[mocha latte cupcake]

agreed on the religion part. i do not accept it, i don't understand it, but i'm not outwardly angered by it or someone to get crazy about it.

we have a small homosexual population down here (and even more tourists) and the thing that i've noticed is that most homosexual men enjoy putting their "gayness" out in the open where are lesbians are discrete and do not make a huge fuss about it. however, do it behind closed doors people. people in general get disgusted when a man and woman get "frisky" in public, its even twice as vulgar when a homosexual couple does it.

i might become the minority but that doesn't bother me, and homosexuality IS a choice. guys were raised to like women and women were raised to like men (as the majority of the population goes) we have 2 members in our church right now that were homosexuals, they realize it was a choice and 1 has gone since to have a family with his wife and a loving household. and the other is doing well on his own. 1 grew up in a chrisitan household and the other did not. the mental instability and "i don't have a choice" mentality is old news, thats like saying the voices in my head told me to kill someone, @ the end of the day you had a choice. people are quick to use "its my nature" to do things when it isn't main stream.

i don't hate them, i truly don't, i simply get tired of seeing is flaunted in my face on television, public, and hearing them cry about not being treated equally. and as for adoption i do not agree with it @ all. Children should not be exposed to homosexuality in any way shape or form. Are there plenty of children who need homes... yes. Is there a guarantee that they will be loved even when they are adopted...possibly. however i've known plenty of children who lived in foster homes and have no issues in life what so ever. a family down here fostered and eventually adopted a total of 15 babies over a 25 year course. (as they couldn't have children of their own) and not one of them isn't loved.

[BobbyFresco]

No it should not be legalized cause if it is it opens the door to way more other things.

I could care less of homosexxuality is "right" or "wrong". The moral side doesnt concern me, its more of the legal side.

I mean, the mainstream hardcore section of this country which is the MAJORITY, is straight, man and woman marriage. That is the view of this country. We should not pander to a small population who thinks they should be the normality.

If gays want to get state married, so be it, im not against them being married. What i am against, is them wanting the SAME protections, benefits of a normal married couple.

Im also not in favor of gays adopting kids either. I still think it is not the NORMAL situation and subjecting or raising a child to believe that it is normal, is wrong. Society determines what is moral or normal, and so far, it isnt gay marriage .

They chose that lifestyle, they should deal with the consequences which is not having the same perks as a normal married couple. Its kinda like a nun to me, she chose a life of celibacy, no one made her do it.

I think homosexuality is a choice, not genetic.

My ni g g u h!

I agree on every single point made.

[cjhutch]

I could care less either way, but if they want to legalize it I see no reason why not. As far as the argument that they are the minority and we would be "pandering" to them by legalizing it, I can only say that there are tons of laws out there already that are catered or geared toward a minority of the population. As far as raising kids in a same sex household I see no problem with that either. In a way it has become normal now for kids to be raised by a single parent and the majority of the time that's by a woman. So does that mean a male child being raised solely by his mother is going to develop female traits because that's all he sees? A good parent is just that, and if that means two guys or two women raising a healthy child and providing them with the necessities to live a productive life I am all for it.

I would also like to ask of anyone who is opposed to a child being raised by two people of the same sex this question. If a woman or a man has a child and then later on in the relationship becomes homosexual and they move in their girlfriend or boyfriend should the child be taken from the home even if they are a good parent?

[bafbrian]

unfortunetly its not that simple a process.

If its made legal, that opens issues up that we cant possibly deal with right now.

If Gay marriage is allowed, then what about transgender trans-sexuals, post op, pre-op, animals, lol etc

I mean pretty much you legalize Gay Marriage , that will open the flood gates to all other sorts of marriage and legal stuff .

Like i said, they can be married all they want at the state level, but i dont think they should be afforded the same rights and privledges as others. Human rights, YES, marital rights, NO.

Giving them the same rights as normal married couples, well thats like giving illegal aliens welfare checks or free healthcare.

The real problem behind gay marriage is they want a man and a man or a women and a women to be able to be covered under medical care, insurance, and other liabilities. They want the same tax breaks regular married couples get. They want to be able to adopt a child and get the same tax breaks.

I dont agree with the gay lifestyle, but im not saying they should all die or burn or anything. I just think they need to realize, they are a MINORITY and they must understand that majority rules.

Its like affirmative action, why should we promote a black or latino because there is less of them? i believe in best person for the job, REGARDLESS of color.

That is same argument you always hear. That is like a married couple saying their marriage will be ruined if gay marriage is legalized. Let me say this, if that marriage would be ruined by gay marriage, they have some serious problems with their relationship.

To be honest, it is that simple. Like I said, look at the 14th Amendment. As far as I am concerned, as long as they are a citizen of the United States, they should be granted equal protection and equal rights under the law. This whole idea of marriage only being between a man and a woman is a religious connotation. We have "open our eyes" and take in reality. This is the point in our history when we have to be open to new ideas and concepts because no country will remain static in its existence, it will always have a dynamic society.

[Vteckidd]

well what i mean is its not that simple for SOCIETY to make that simple a distinction. I think yuo would agree with that.


I dont see it happening anytime in our lifetime.

[bafbrian]

well what i mean is its not that simple for SOCIETY to make that simple a distinction. I think yuo would agree with that.


I dont see it happening anytime in our lifetime.

I could agree with that. It does society quite some time to realize what is happening.

This issue is like many before it, all it is going to take is for a large enough group to wield power and I can promise you that the law will change. I could see it happening in my lifetime, since I am little bit behind you years Mike.

[Ran]

We have "open our eyes" and take in reality. This is the point in our history when we have to be open to new ideas and concepts because no country will remain static in its existence, it will always have a dynamic society.

New Ideas != Good Ideas

[Paul]

It should be legalized b/c there isn't anything wrong w/ it. I have a few friends that are gay some have even adopted kids. They are far better people than the run of the mill straight person. Most of the gays I know are successful at their careers, are highly intelligent, hilarious, and genuinely nice people.

Morly - specially Christian Morals should have no bearing on US law. Not only is this point of view closed minded and judgmental it is the exact opposite of what being Christian is about. Separation of Church and State and we should keep it that way.

As far as benefits, I agree with gay marriage and I think they should be extended benefits like all other humans in the US. This goes far beyond health benefits but legal practices such as assets/property, etc after one dies should be made available.

Denying people basic rights is just dumb there are far better things to be worrying about.

[Vteckidd]

Morly - specially Christian Morals should have no bearing on US law. Not only is this point of view closed minded and judgmental it is the exact opposite of what being Christian is about. Separation of Church and State and we should keep it that way.

Im am not religious at all, but would you agree that the vast majority of this nation, along with our founding fathers, are of christian faith?

There is separation of church and state, to some degree. But there are influences of the church in our laws, obvioulsy.

DO you think ONE NATION UNDER GOD should be taken out?

[01CDMLUDER]

This thread is gay!

I agree with VtecKidd.
I don't care what they do. If they want 2 be miserable like half of the married ppl then go right ahead.

I think they just want to get married so they can plan weddings

[Paul]

Im am not religious at all, but would you agree that the vast majority of this nation, along with our founding fathers, are of christian faith?

There is separation of church and state, to some degree. But there are influences of the church in our laws, obviously.

DO you think ONE NATION UNDER GOD should be taken out?

Most certainly yes it should be taken out... 1) b/c it was never there originally 2) b/c it shouldn't be there (this includes in GOD we trust)

[RL...]

Church and state should def be 100% seperate, but it will never heppen.


I don't think gay ppl should be denied BASIC human rights, but they should be denied things like marriage and the benefits of it. Paul spoke of gay ppl he knew as successful, smart, etc. The gay ppl I've known have been manipulative, lude, disgusting, vulgar, and excessively flaunting being gay. I've known this one a guy a while ago who was gay and took advantage of my friend when he was passed out drunk. Now thje actions of a few don't set the standard for the whole, but when I'm drinking with my boys I don't want to even think of things like that being a posibility.

Gay men will also act extremely disgusting in public. I know straight men might hit on girls occassionally in a disrepectfuly way, but I've been hit on a few times by gay men and it was ridicuous. If they said hey wanna go out sometime I would say no I'm not gay and go about my day but they said some fucked up disgusting shit that would make anyone here uncomfortable.

I think that if this was legalized it WOULD open the door to other things such as transgenders etc...I mean come one, being gay is a choice. You choose to be straight and normal or you choose to be homo. the same with trans ppl, which is 100% disgusting. I think if someone is that confused as to who/what they are then they should be erased from society because they are obviously confused/disturbed ppl and prob won't contribute to society positively.

[_Christian_]

I think that if this was legalized it WOULD open the door to other things such as transgenders etc...

LOL WUT?

I disagree with those who choose to live a gay lifestyle, but as tax paying Americans I think they should be afforded the tax breaks associated with an opposite (lol) marriage.

[Bruce Leroy]

Church and state should def be 100% seperate, but it will never heppen.


I don't think gay ppl should be denied BASIC human rights, but they should be denied things like marriage and the benefits of it. Paul spoke of gay ppl he knew as successful, smart, etc. The gay ppl I've known have been manipulative, lude, disgusting, vulgar, and excessively flaunting being gay. I've known this one a guy a while ago who was gay and took advantage of my friend when he was passed out drunk. Now thje actions of a few don't set the standard for the whole, but when I'm drinking with my boys I don't want to even think of things like that being a posibility.

Gay men will also act extremely disgusting in public. I know straight men might hit on girls occassionally in a disrepectfuly way, but I've been hit on a few times by gay men and it was ridicuous. If they said hey wanna go out sometime I would say no I'm not gay and go about my day but they said some fucked up disgusting shit that would make anyone here uncomfortable.

Straight people do the same thing... Why do you think women get raped all the time??? Shit, even dudes get raped by women. People in general are fucked up.

I think that if this was legalized it WOULD open the door to other things such as transgenders etc...I mean come one, being gay is a choice. You choose to be straight and normal or you choose to be homo. the same with trans ppl, which is 100% disgusting. I think if someone is that confused as to who/what they are then they should be erased from society because they are obviously confused/disturbed ppl and prob won't contribute to society positively.

And i don't know where u been, but trannys are everywhere... At least in alpharetta. They have more rights that gays.

[RL...]

Straight people do the same thing... Why do you think women get raped all the time??? Shit, even dudes get raped by women. People in general are fucked up.





And i don't know where u been, but trannys are everywhere... At least in alpharetta. They have more rights that gays.

1) ppl in general are fucked up, especially gay men, now gay girls is ok. They are discreet about their homosexuality and women are beautiful. Might be a double standard but life is built on double standards and life is not fair so get over it.

2) Trannys are everywhere!? WTF! I used to live in alpahretta and have never seen one. I now live in buford and the only places I've seen one is downtown atl @ the masquerade. I promptly left.

[Jimmy B]

Marrage is a man, and woman,..

adam and eve, not adam and adam...

[BURRITO_mike]

Homosexuality is becoming more and more socially acceptable and 4 states have now legalized same sex marriage.

I don't want my son growing up watching tv and seeing two guys kissing. He might then want to experiment thinking that's natural and ok. Like I said, if gay ppl want to be together then do it behind closed doors...or atleast be sutble about it

im with you def dont want my kids, boy or girl, thinking its okay, major no no...

[quickdodge®]

There is nothing wrong with gay folks. There is nothing wrong with gay folks having a legal marriage. There is nothing wrong with gay couples having the same benefits that straight couples are offered. The only people that hate gays, that think it's disgusting, that demoralizes gay people are the ones that are afraid or not in the know. They're afraid to know. They're afraid that their reservations will be shown wrong. They're afraid that they might actually like the company of a gay person.

The idiot above me posted that she's only known "manipulative, lude, disgusting, vulgar, and excessively flaunting" gay people. Does that mean you've never met a lewd (correct spelling by the way) straight person? You've never met a disgusting or vulgar straight person? You've never met a straight person who flaunts himself? You're just letting your closed-mindedness get the better of you.

Mike, come on, dude. We don't know for certain, but I agree with you in that homosexuality is probably choice and not genetic, but to deny a person a chance at as healthy a life as they can have because of their choices isn't right. Or humane. Now I think they should be offered the same benefits that a straight married couple gets only in the instance that gay marriage is legal. Gay couples who refer to themselves as partners or life partners shouldn't be afforded matrimonial benefits. They should each get their own separate, personal policies. Smoking and drinking are bad choices. Unhealthy choices. A person is deliberately punishing his/her body, yet he/she is allowed to have health insurance. Even if that person is married. So why not gay people, even if someone thinks it's a bad choice?

Later, QD.

[RL...]

There is nothing wrong with gay folks. There is nothing wrong with gay folks having a legal marriage. There is nothing wrong with gay couples having the same benefits that straight couples are offered. The only people that hate gays, that think it's disgusting, that demoralizes gay people are the ones that are afraid or not in the know. They're afraid to know. They're afraid that their reservations will be shown wrong. They're afraid that they might actually like the company of a gay person.

The idiot above me posted that she's only known "manipulative, lude, disgusting, vulgar, and excessively flaunting" gay people. Does that mean you've never met a lewd (correct spelling by the way) straight person? You've never met a disgusting or vulgar straight person? You've never met a straight person who flaunts himself? You're just letting your closed-mindedness get the better of you.

Mike, come on, dude. We don't know for certain, but I agree with you in that homosexuality is probably choice and not genetic, but to deny a person a chance at as healthy a life as they can have because of their choices isn't right. Or humane. Now I think they should be offered the same benefits that a straight married couple gets only in the instance that gay marriage is legal. Gay couples who refer to themselves as partners or life partners shouldn't be afforded matrimonial benefits. They should each get their own separate, personal policies. Smoking and drinking are bad choices. Unhealthy choices. A person is deliberately punishing his/her body, yet he/she is allowed to have health insurance. Even if that person is married. So why not gay people, even if someone thinks it's a bad choice?

Later, QD.

JUST BECAUSE. enough said, idiot.