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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    What pre-emptive war for resources?
    How about Iraq? Ever read the papers of the Project for the New American Century? It outlines a scenario a lot like what occurred in Iraq. Control middle eastern countries, control the oil, deny other countries the petroleum to hinder economic growth and allow America to maintain world economic dominance.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...erican_Century

    Lots of Bush administration members were also members of the Project for the New American Century.
    I know we have supplied several groups in proxy wars against anti-american countries. That would include Iran, Soviet Union, China, and Vietnam.
    We never supplied anyone with weapons to fight the Chinese unless you count a couple of Tibetans being in the employ of the CIA, and throughout the Cold War they could probably be considered conversely as much Ally as Enemy after the Sino-Soviet split of the 1960s.

    More over, I hope nobody is dumb enough to mistake China for an enemy now. Aside from the fact that no other nation's armed forces even approach the capabilities required to challenge the total dominance the United States can produce, they're our biggest trading partner.

    Vietnam was also not "Anti-American" - The Vietnamese, North and South respectively, were fighting to maintain their own sovereignty and reunite the nation under one Government.

    Iran is an interesting case - no doubt they were and to some degree still are anti-American - don't mistake the words of Ahmadinejad for the feelings of the populace, the younger generation is very progressive and the President is in fact very unpopular and not in charge of foreign policy- but were they so much of a threat that it warranted arming Iraq with biological and chemical weapons? Which were later employed against U.S troops (the irony here is we were also arming Iran, see Iran-Contra) Yes, U.S. troops were exposed to chemical weapons during the Gulf War through direct or indirect deployment.

    Early warning chemical detectors went off nearly 18,000 individual times during the Gulf War, rendering them useless because of providing too many false positives. Troops were therefore exposed to trace levels of chemical weapons, producing what's known today as Gulf War syndrome, symptoms of which are high incidences of cancer and birth defects in offspring. This is commonly blamed on DU, this is inccorect, there is no scientific evidence to support the idea DU has this effect on humans. Mustard Gas, however, is well documented in medical literature as being a highly mutagenic/carcinogenic compound.

    It would be foolish to say it was Ronald Reagan's fault this happened, but his irresponsible facilitiation of chemical weapons proliferation is certainly related to the health problems of hundreds of thousands of U.S. and British troops and their children.
    Last edited by The12lber; 07-17-2008 at 09:16 PM.

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