Exactly.Originally Posted by Julio
Exactly.
How much is Pharmacy school anyways? I figure is not cheap?
Even if you look at salary.com not ALL the jobs posted on there REQUIRE experience. What are you gonna do until you get that 1-3 yr experience?
BTW, salary.com also says that Real Estate Agents make $36K/yr in Atlanta too...... :jerkit: ....we all know SOME make that and MOST make 3x that. Again, the "accuracy" of these numbers is questionable at best.
sorry but if you only made 60k out of school then you would never get the money to pay for college from the goverment... kates school cost 22k a year, you do the math x4, plus she already has 4 years at UGA... no one goes to school for a DR. to make 60k unless you plain on being a professor.
since you think pharmacist only make 60k, how much do you think dentist or md's make?
by the way you can be paid salary and hourly at the same time... salary for 40 hours and anything over you get hourly, pharmacist are paid that wayi remember kate telling me that one of her pharmacist was paid 1200$ to work easter b/c they couldn't get anyone to do it, ya that 150$ an hour
I didn't get into the Rph. and Pharm.D issue b/c I assumed that Jaime was educated enough to know the difference. Most old school Pharms just have a BS in Pharmacy, got their state cert. hence the Rph. Very few schools offer the BS in Pharm anymore. Pharm.D is now the standard, which in turn means more school. Actually, a Grad can use the Pharm.D and Rph tag.just for the record pharmacist make alot more than 60k... now there is a big diffrance between a RPH and a Dr.... both UGA/MERCER are Dr. only... retail starting from what kate has been told by the recuiting people:
Kroger = 96k
CVS = 98k
now it totaly depends on company and the job... you have research, retail, hospital, and gov. all pay different. one of kates friends was offered 115k to start for Bilo in Chattanooga.
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if you work for the gov you start out at 46k (after taxes) and it goes up to like 98k (after taxes)
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and if you want more proof i'll take you to two of kates bosses houses... they both live in 350-450k homes and both of their husbands don't work
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Julio, Pharm School is expensive like anyother professional program, but Mercer is really outrageous. They do have a great program though. Also, I am talking about 1st year grads. I didn't even calculate the signing bonus.
Who said I was 20 or 21? LoL....25 and 3rd year and paid my own way through school. I am proud of the fact that I will be making great money before I hit 30. I will have earned every penny. BTW Jaime, I'm still waiting for the school and degree..LoL..but I doubt we'll ever know the truth. If I have a mortgage question I'll let you know.Sorry I didn't read through your long post again, my mind wanders when your "grumpy old men" routine surfaces.
Jaime you need to relax bro. pickin on the poor kid like that!
Honestly I came in this thread I would be seeing some useful information, so far its been 2.75 pages of bullshit. you should have taken this to PM a loooong time ago...
Anyways, good numbers, didnt really give me any shit I didnt know. thanks guys
I agree with thinkfast, Jaime, hats off to you generally, but in this case let it slide. I'm with you, I'm a grad too, but bare with me ... Think back to college, it was impossible then to talk to Freshman about the stress of being a senior, and you're gonna try to talk to a wet behind the ears student about life after college? The whole miracle of college is the fact that you're so full of yourself sorrounded by those in your age group that you forget that there is life beyond the extent of your nose. Most college students don't think of life outside campus, little ol' less several years down the road. 85% of the people in my field (veterinary medicine) change and drop their degrees yet are considered the most hard headed stubborn students (some will flunk out trying to succeed). I "knew" i would break that statistic and make a difference in my career, but at the end I dropped my degree like everyone else. I do what I love now and am successful by my standard now, but I'll admit to having this kids attitude back then.
Pharm teg if you're happy with your career decision and thorough about you education, more power to you. Don't get discouraged and stick through with you choices. If all else fails, have a back up. I found a way to merge my back up into my failed plans and am very happy in my career.
Miguel
I've been trying to let it die, but smarty pants keeps responding after I told him to get off my nuts.
I have never once said Pharmacists don't make any money. I simply started off by saying that people don't need to put so much emphasis on the "numbers" that are published all over God's creation because they vary so much from publisher to publisher. In this very thread, we've proven just that very point. Julio has found some numbers, smarty pants found another, even Paul has some more numbers Kate has. My point exactly. You talk to 3 different people, you get 3 diff numbers. So what's the freaking point of puffing your chest about it then???? THAT is my only point. NOT that Pharmacists don't make money or do. It's been my experience from having family and friends that are actually WORKING in that field that $100k+ right out of the gate is a little far fetched. Is it possible? Sure. But to hear MR. Know-it-all tell it, EVERYBODY is "guaranteed" to make $100K+ in their first position of their first job right after graduation. Doesn't that sound foolish to anyone else????
it does sound foolish, but thats exactly my point. C'mon man, you remember the novel inoccence of college. It's almost worse than the quintisential 1st grader talking about becoming the first millionaire fighter pilot :-) (i personally had one up on that kid, I was going to be the first millionaire astronat with a fighter jet as a personal toy.)
Let this guy fathom his million. He'll either die trying or shove it in our face when he gets there. Either way we don't have to worry about it for another 4.5 years. :P
Miguel
Damn, didn't know pharmacist makes that much....Shouldn't have drop out of pharmacy school...
Damn, didn't know pharmacist makes that much....Shouldn't have drop out of pharmacy school...
last i checked dentists don't do too bad either
lol ya no shitlast i checked dentists don't do too bad either
Damn, didn't know pharmacist makes that much....Shouldn't have drop out of pharmacy school...
Hmm...Very few students drop out of Pharm School compared to many of the other professional programs. So you went through the trouble of applying to Pharm School, which takes almost a year b/c of interviews and wait listing, and then dropped out? LoL. Furthermore, you didn't know the average salary of a rookie Pharmacist? You were about to endure a total of 4 years of Pharm school, plus 1500 hours of clerkship, without knowing what Pharms make? Nice to know you were so prepared.
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Money = Power
Power = Money
wasn't that used in a rap song a while back? anyways, what you make he can take and when you need and believe, he will give
GOD owns ALL!
He's a dentist you nimrod.Hmm...Very few students drop out of Pharm School compared to many of the other professional programs. So you went through the trouble of applying to Pharm School, which takes almost a year b/c of interviews and wait listing, and then dropped out? LoL. Furthermore, you didn't know the average salary of a rookie Pharmacist? You were about to endure a total of 4 years of Pharm school, plus 1500 hours of clerkship, without knowing what Pharms make? Nice to know you were so prepared.
I guess now you're gonna start waving your magic paycheck and say the pharmacists make more than dentists do too so he must be dumb for being a DENTIST......:jerkit:
My goodness. Don't your arms get tired of always patting yourself on the back?
BTW, I'm doing a loan for a buddy of mine whose wife IS a pharmacist and has been for a few years. She's worked for Pfizer and now works for CVS and she STILL doesn't make $100k. She's in the ballpark, but she's also been at it for a few YEARS too. I've seen the paychecks and I've seen the W2's. I've got every piece of personal and financial information they have from 401K to Stocks to plain ole bank accounts. She also has a PHD, BTW, so it's not as if she's lacking some kind of higher degree. She makes great money though. Just not the "guaranteed" $100k you think everybody gets right out of the gate.
I wasn't trying to insult the guy. I was pointing out that it is a stupid move to pull out of a professional program after devoting that much time and effort. Something you apparently you know little about with your pseudo degree. BTW, have that lady give me call, b/c apparently she's made some bad career moves. Having a dual degree, Pharm D and PhD, should easily put her in 6 figures. I don't know what she did for Pfizer, but there are plenty of avenues to take within research. You keep commenting about a field you know little about b/c you've seen some financial info on your customer. Not a great way to guage what the rest of the Pharm field is bringing home. If she made the right career moves she should be in the 6 figure range, unless she made some other choices while in the field that may detract her from earning more like getting married and raising a family. Also, she was probably better off going with a MBA to perhaps manage a large chain of pharms etc. What was she bringing in salary wise? I wonder if she was moonlighting anywhere to bump the salary?He's a dentist you nimrod.
I guess now you're gonna start waving your magic paycheck and say the pharmacists make more than dentists do too so he must be dumb for being a DENTIST......
My goodness. Don't your arms get tired of always patting yourself on the back?
BTW, I'm doing a loan for a buddy of mine whose wife IS a pharmacist and has been for a few years. She's worked for Pfizer and now works for CVS and she STILL doesn't make $100k. She's in the ballpark, but she's also been at it for a few YEARS too. I've seen the paychecks and I've seen the W2's. I've got every piece of personal and financial information they have from 401K to Stocks to plain ole bank accounts. She also has a PHD, BTW, so it's not as if she's lacking some kind of higher degree. She makes great money though. Just not the "guaranteed" $100k you think everybody gets right out of the gate.
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Damn, didn't know pharmacist makes that much....Shouldn't have drop out of pharmacy school...
How much for a teeth whitening session?
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In his case it doesn't seem like such a "stupid move" if he went on to bigger and better things, now does it?
BTW, have that lady give me call, b/c apparently she's made some bad career moves. Having a dual degree, Pharm D and PhD, should easily put her in 6 figures. I don't know what she did for Pfizer, but there are plenty of avenues to take within research.
Yeah, right. I'm going to tell somebody that is ALREADY a Pharmacists, working AS a Pharmacist, with a PHD, that YOU....a student TRYING to be a Pharmacist is going to "enlighten" her as to how YOU are smarter than HER about a career path she already HAS and you HAVEN'T.... :jerkit:
Dilusions of granduoso again?????
No asswipe, you need to refer to my post just above where I CLEARLY explained why I disagreed with you. You don't want to buy into it, great. I don't give a rat's ass if you do or don't. I honestly don't.You keep commenting about a field you know little about b/c you've seen some financial info on your customer. Not a great way to guage what the rest of the Pharm field is bringing home.
But you can keep spouting out crap you know nothing about first hand, and argue with logic, and argue with numbers, and argue with others that say the exact same thing I do, and argue with people who ARE already in the business YOU wish to be in, and argue until you are smart and I'm young.....but it won't change the fact that what I said since the beginning is true:
1. There are NO "guarantees" on money for someone starting out. Only a range of possibilities.
2. Ask 10 people about any given profession and you will get 10 different answers as to what they make. Therefore, very little emphasis should be placed on the "numbers" alone. A career/education path should be chosen using a variety of reasons because money alone will get you nothing but dissapointment.
3. There is no way to prove the accuracy of numbers because the source is skewed. See #2 above or even this very thread to see how varied the "numbers" are and how varied the sources and how varied the proof. So therefore, ANYBODY can put out any number they'd like and technically be right because there is no way to prove them wrong. As long as they find 1 person making $100k, they could technically publish that $100k is the salary of that profession. When in reality, they should have a caveat that says it's a POSSIBILITY and not necessarily a "given".
If she made the right career moves she should be in the 6 figure range, unless she made some other choices while in the field that may detract her from earning more like getting married and raising a family. Also, she was probably better off going with a MBA to perhaps manage a large chain of pharms etc. What was she bringing in salary wise? I wonder if she was moonlighting anywhere to bump the salary?
I asked her the question directly: "Did you make $100k when you started?" Her answer was a clear and resounding "NO".
She's got a PHD and you have squat. She's a Pharmacist and you're not. She's been working in her field for a few years already and you haven't barely begun. I have her paycheck stub sitting in front of me, and she makes great money just not the "guaranteed" $100K you profess.
So now suddenly SHE's the exception to your rule, SHE made some kind of mistake, yada yada yada :jerkit: .
LoL. I'll state this again. You base your opinion on a few Pharmacists you know and you think you have some idea what the average Pharms makes. I've been in this field since I graduated high school and know plenty of Pharms in different fields. Based on your limited knowledge you're in no position to presume you know what all Pharms will/do make. Just say the Pharms YOU know make X dollars. I know several younger than you making 100k, but of course you don't believe that b/c that goes against your vast knowledge of the field. Oh but wait, I forgot you have ONE paystub...LoL. Still can't mention what your degree was in? I'll even accept an AD from a community college. I thoroughly regret not getting into the mortgage industry..LoL. Stick with what you know, which is.......?
First: You're REALLY gonna regret the day I meet you face-to-face. Promise.
Second: Wasn't it you that was making fun of me because I mentioned that my knowledge came from having family members, friends, and customers that ARE in the field you WISH you were in??? Now suddenly because YOU "know" some people in the field and suddenly YOU are "expert" on the subject???? :jerkit: Got it hemorrhoid, got it.
Third: ONE paystub dingleberry? ONE?
Fourth: My degree? What's that got to do with the price of tea in China? It's one of those worthless Business degrees you so love. What's that got to do with jack? The school I got it at? Would it matter if it were Harvard or Yale? Would that change your opinion and suddenly make you realize that are a dickhead and are wrong? That's why I haven't answered your questions, because in the end regardless of what answer I give you will STILL be little faggot wannabe who thinks they know it all. So why bother?
Finally: YOU are a nobody right now. A no-degree-having-faggot-ass-who- thinks-he-knows-it-all-NOW-because-his-counselor-told-him-so. YOU are NOT a Pharmacist YET. YOU don't have a degree in SHIT yet. YOU don't make any money YET. YOU don't know jack about the real world YET.
Stay in your cute little car, in your cute little school, trying to impress somebody with your bullshit. UNTIL YOU have graduated and have a JOB, you are a nobody. YOU are no different right now than any plain ole college student working at Wendy's while they graduate. YOU are a nobody. YOU don't OWN shit. YOU don't have anything to hang your hat on except you WANNABE a Pharmacist. Great. Good for you. UNTIL you ARE a Pharmacist, YOU are nothing more than a wannabe hoping to be one.
Argue with that now bitch.
I don't get why there is so much BS in this thread... phramacist w/ a Pharm D not an RPH do start out 96+k a year right now... w/ sign on bonus you can make even more. If the lady has a Pharm D & a PHD then she obviously isn't in it for the money making uder 100k when you can certanly make that. Your using bad example for a field you don't know much about.
why would someone waste 8 years of school for a DR. title & job that won't make you close or over 100k a year... beyond that why would the gov't just hand you loans for 20k+ a year for school if they knew you couldn't pay them back easily. Com'on... do you honestly think kate would waste 4 years of school more when she could of just as easily been a doctor/denist. Its the same schooling... undergrad is practically 100% the same. I know b/c kates roommate from UGA goes to Moore House Medical, they took almost every single class together.
Furthermore as stated previously by Julio he talked to a pharmacist as well... Pablo's mom for that matter who isn't even a pharmacist anymore she owns a mortgage company... so i know she isn't a Pharm D. Also Kates best friend Kristi is finishing up in her rotations as we speak... she was offered 115k a year to start w/ Bilo in Chattanooga. If you want i can give you the address of kates boss and you can go check out their home which is over 400k & her husband doesn't work (i'm sure she makes 70k a year
Pharmacist is a very different field than most b/c there are many different fields pharmacist can work in: Retail, Hospital, Gov, teacher, & Research... all pay completely different.
Hey Jamie, how much is 46k bring home a year??? 100k bring home???
"Northern Mississippi- Clinical Pharmacist to 90k! New grads OK!"
http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeek...lr=cbc_empspot
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 90k+... by the way i just got off the phone w/ kate she just got done talking to a CVS recruiter who told her they expect to be paying pharmacist 65$ (135k) an hour by the time she graduates
You are doing the same thing he is doing. Just because he is studying it and Kate is studying it doesn't make either of you an "expert" over people that are ACTUALLY IN THE FIELD ALREADY. I don't get that. I do loans for a living. YOU know that. I did yours, remember. I see people's PAY stubs on a daily basis. I've done a bunch of loans for Pharmacists. Furthermore, my AUNT has been a Pharmacist for over 20 yrs. In MY first hand experience of looking AT people's PAY stubs and having a family member who IS a Pharmacist, I have yet to have found a ROOKIE Pharmacist that makes the kind of money both you guys are talking about. Is it possible to make that money out of the gate??? SURE IT IS. The better question as has been posed here IS: Does EVERY rookie make $100K? My whole thing has always been that from the clients, family members, and people I've asked that question directly that ARE Pharmacists ALREADY......the answer has so far always been "NO".
Why do yall want to argue with that? It would seem that first hand accounts from someone that already IS a Pharmacist would hold far more weight in this discussion than some link to a website that specializes on selling resumes.
why would someone waste 8 years of school for a DR. title & job that won't make you close or over 100k a year... beyond that why would the gov't just hand you loans for 20k+ a year for school if they knew you couldn't pay them back easily. Com'on... do you honestly think kate would waste 4 years of school more when she could of just as easily been a doctor/denist. Its the same schooling... undergrad is practically 100% the same. I know b/c kates roommate from UGA goes to Moore House Medical, they took almost every single class together.
Because you'll make that and much more LATER on down the road. Is it in 2 yrs or 10 yrs? Who knows. I do know that Pharmacists make some very good money. Far more as their seniority grows. Just don't say that all Pharmacists make $100k "guaranteed" and we'll agree.
How long has she been in the business?If you want i can give you the address of kates boss and you can go check out their home which is over 400k & her husband doesn't work (i'm sure she makes 70k a year
Pharmacist is a very different field than most b/c there are many different fields pharmacist can work in: Retail, Hospital, Gov, teacher, & Research... all pay completely different.
TADA!!!!!!!!!!
There it is. Exactly what I've been saying and both of you have been arguing with me about.
I said in the very beginning that emphasis on "numbers" is silly simply because of the exact same reason you just listed. Ever since then, num nuts has been riding my balls that I was wrong wrong wrong because HE "KNOWS" that they all make atleast $100k. I said since the very beginning that if you ask 3 different people, you'll get 3 different answer. It's common sense. A website saying that the "MEDIAN" starting salary for that area is X, is really useless because there is no way for anyone to refute that. As has been shown in this very thread, everybody's research has netted totally different numbers. So what makes one right and the other wrong? Then why place so much emphasis on "numbers" and beating all on your chest about that, when the numbers you're using to beat your chest with are skewed?
Follow that?
Hey Jamie, how much is 46k bring home a year??? 100k bring home???
Umm, what? That a trick question?
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That's fine, but remember I have a paystub right in front of me for a person that WORKS for CVS with a freaking Phd that her base is considerably less than that.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 90k+... by the way i just got off the phone w/ kate she just got done talking to a CVS recruiter who told her they expect to be paying pharmacist 65$ (135k) an hour by the time she graduates
So, again.....ask two people, get two different answers. Again, goes to prove exactly what I was saying since the beginning. "Numbers" are useless. Range is good, "numbers" are useless.
BTW, even in your link you will notice that only ONE of those positions specifies that "recent grads are OK" and that position only pays $90K. The higher paying ones, don't have the same comment. That link was for an ad for a place in HIGH need of Pharmacists, right? Then why wouldn't they have put that comment on ALL the positions if they are needing people that badly? Could be that only LOWER paying position is the one that allows for someone w/o experience to apply. Don't know.
Regardless, my point has never been that Pharmacists DON'T make good money. My point has been that the "numbers" being thrown around like gospel are not in line with real live people's stories nor are they important because of that very same thing.
^ not every pharmacist makes around 100k starting out... i've stated before it goes on your degree and background. Kate has already been offered a starting position under her pharmacist now as her other pharmacist... Kroger is paying 96k a year starting out for Pharm D, CVS 98k, those numbers came from the recruiters kate has already talked to. Now that is just retail... but as you can see above i posted a link for a clinical position starting at 90k... so ya w/ a sign on bonus right now you can make 100k,,, they fields has been going up about 5k a year in salary, and is projected to be over 100k when she graduates, as i stated before....
its like this... you get a PHD in Science to teach middle school??? Com'on of course there are people who do that and don't make shit, but there are also those who make 100k a year as scientist working for some random company.
there is a difference between a PHD and a Pharm D and a RPHI have a paystub right in front of me for a person that WORKS for CVS with a freaking Phd that her base is considerably less than that.
so even w/ her being w/ a retail company it all goes on background...
shit kate make 17+$ an hour now as a intern... that is 35k a year just being in college... do you honestly think if they pay their techs starting at 35k that they pay their pharmacist double that :jerkit: there is not school neccessary to be a tech, but to make double that you think people would take on 100k in debt in school loans to make 70k bahhhhh your kidding me right.
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Your boy seems to disagree with you there boss man. I agree with you, but according to him I don't know anything. Guess that means you don't know anything either, huh?
I agree with you. We wouldn't even be having this drawn out discussion for the last month had asswipe simply said "Pharmacists make between $80K and $150K on a regular basis". But instead, he's been beating on his chest that HE is going to make 6 figures GUARANTEED.....the "guaranteed" part is been the only issue with me here. I proved it by showing how many different numbers, other than $100k, are out there.
Kate's so damn fine, I'd offer her anything she wanted too.......Kate has already been offered a starting position under her pharmacist now as her other pharmacist... Kroger is paying 96k a year starting out for Pharm D, CVS 98k, those numbers came from the recruiters kate has already talked to. Now that is just retail... but as you can see above i posted a link for a clinical position starting at 90k... so ya w/ a sign on bonus right now you can make 100k,,, they fields has been going up about 5k a year in salary, and is projected to be over 100k when she graduates, as i stated before....
Exactly why the "numbers" game is stupid and skewed. You have hard luck stories mixed in with proper ones. My point yet again why there is NO guarantee about money. Do you think that the guy teaching in Middle School because he found no other work cares a rat's ass what a website says he SHOULD be making? He'd tell you right up front, NO guarantees on anything. Doesn't change the fact that he could LATER ON go and put that PHD to work for him more efficiently.its like this... you get a PHD in Science to teach middle school??? Com'on of course there are people who do that and don't make shit, but there are also those who make 100k a year as scientist working for some random company.
People take on Student loans for far less paying jobs than $70K/yr, absolutely. They do it everyday. As a matter of fact, I had a phone call just this morning from somewhere looking for an employee I no longer have working here. Seems he has some expensive Student loans due and they are looking for him to garnish his wages. His degree, from what little I've been able to gather, was an engineering degree. Last I heard, he was working back in the engineering field, but made very little money. Obviously not enough to pay his loans or they wouldn't be looking for him., but to make double that you think people would take on 100k in debt in school loans to make 70k bahhhhh your kidding me right.
Point is that the gov't will give student loans to just about anyone. I've seen people with horrid credit, yet have just gotten a student loan to "go back to school". The fact that they give it to you, doesn't mean that you'll be making enough money to pay it back in a year. I do loans for grown ass folks that have been working for eons that are STILL paying on their student loans today. Remember, some of those loans the minimum payments are stupid low too.
^ it is definatley a very funny field... kate has 4 years at UGA w/ no degree and now 2 years into mercer she is working on her Pharm D (no bachelor or masters in this field)... beyond that salary is totally negotiable... as when kate finishes she will already have 5+ years exp in retail and 3+ in hospital; so her resume will look nice.
all i know i need to decide on what color i want my elise to be
I dropped out bc the degree would become useless for me...Hmm...Very few students drop out of Pharm School compared to many of the other professional programs. So you went through the trouble of applying to Pharm School, which takes almost a year b/c of interviews and wait listing, and then dropped out? LoL. Furthermore, you didn't know the average salary of a rookie Pharmacist? You were about to endure a total of 4 years of Pharm school, plus 1500 hours of clerkship, without knowing what Pharms make? Nice to know you were so prepared.Why waste another year of student loan for something that would collect dusts inside my file cabinet? I was very well prepared, thats why I used it as a stepping stone.
As for the salary...I dont believe half of what they posted..Salaries are based on demand and supplies. 2-4 yrs down the road, there could be twice as much recent graduates applying for the same position that is available as of today. However, I am sure the Board of Pharmacy and School of Pharmacy are intelligent enough to NOT flood the market with pharmacists.
Oh by the way, Organic Chemistry kicked my ass so did Pharmacology.
^^^^^^Dang, yet ANOTHER person, this time a REAL BONAFIDE DOCTOR, saying that published "numbers" are retarded.
HMMMMMM, be careful Godzilla.....farm boy is gonna try and tell you that YOU don't know anything because you disagree with his "guaranteed" salary idea he keeps banking on....after all.....you're "only" a DOCTOR yourself which in his world means you don't know anything about any other subject.....
damn, lot of long dedicated posts in this section.
Damn it Jaime!
Leisa and S. 4 Life NM?
O. Chem is a weeder course. Well, the Pharm Board within each state or the Pharm Schools really don't care at this point whether the market gets flooded. New Pharm Schools are popping up every sememster to meet the demands. The hardest part I think is finding the faculty to teach at the schools. I'm PS 3 and my networking over the years has paid off, and will pay off in the next year. I just get annoyed when the dropouts that could not hack college start to blast those who realize the importance of an education. I can name one such idiot that will be providing home loans for the next 20 years...LoL. To each his own.I dropped out bc the degree would become useless for me...
As for the salary...I dont believe half of what they posted..Salaries are based on demand and supplies. 2-4 yrs down the road, there could be twice as much recent graduates applying for the same position that is available as of today. However, I am sure the Board of Pharmacy and School of Pharmacy are intelligent enough to NOT flood the market with pharmacists.
Oh by the way, Organic Chemistry kicked my ass so did Pharmacology.
I didn't say every new Pharm is going to make exactly 100k a year, but I believe in most major markets they can. The fact that mortgage_moron believes that they can't makes me laugh. How can some dipshit who has never worked in the field even form an opinion on how much new Pharms make? A few paystubs he has lying around his desk? I can generalize how most in the mortgage industry are sharks ( my aunt is in the biz ) but I wouldn't make a blanket statement. I've been in the healthcare field for over 8 years, a big chunk in the Pharm industry. I went from a Level I Pharm Tech to Level IV, and now as an Intern and awaiting year 4 in rotations. So regardless of the paystubs you see on your desk, I can certainly decipher what recruiters are offering every month. The only area that is not close to the 100k range would be home healthcare. Mortgage_Moron, your problem is that you hate for anyone to disagree with you. Why would anyone be misguided by the ramblings of an uneducated moron such as yourself? Are you that insecure in you manhood that you can't handle the fact someone younger than you will be more successful? Are you that offended I don't agree with someone ( i.e you) not IN THE FIELD? You have no respectable perspective in this field Don't take it out on those who chose a higher level of education instead of wandering around for years comtemplating what they want to do with their life. We all aren't you, and I thank God, Allah, and Buddha everyday. If you want to share your limited life experiences or your rags to riches story, please feel free. Why is it that guys like you get so bitter as you age? I've worked with Pharms, who like you, truly believed they held the key to the vault that contained the secrets to a successful life. Five minutes later I pointed out that he put the wrong label on a patients bottle.^ not every pharmacist makes around 100k starting out... i've stated before it goes on your degree and background. Kate has already been offered a starting position under her pharmacist now as her other pharmacist... Kroger is paying 96k a year starting out for Pharm D, CVS 98k, those numbers came from the recruiters kate has already talked to. Now that is just retail... but as you can see above i posted a link for a clinical position starting at 90k... so ya w/ a sign on bonus right now you can make 100k,,, they fields has been going up about 5k a year in salary, and is projected to be over 100k when she graduates, as i stated before....
its like this... you get a PHD in Science to teach middle school??? Com'on of course there are people who do that and don't make shit, but there are also those who make 100k a year as scientist working for some random company.
there is a difference between a PHD and a Pharm D and a RPH
so even w/ her being w/ a retail company it all goes on background...
shit kate make 17+$ an hour now as a intern... that is 35k a year just being in college... do you honestly think if they pay their techs starting at 35k that they pay their pharmacist double that :jerkit: there is not school neccessary to be a tech, but to make double that you think people would take on 100k in debt in school loans to make 70k bahhhhh your kidding me right.
BTW, the RpH is really no longer used. A PhD is useful in the Pharm field in some regards. I see more Pharm D's and MBA's now. Paul, is Kroger willing to help payback her loans if she has any?
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Keep running your dick sucker. Your day is coming, don't worry.
I'm bored with this subject already. I proved my point. Even your only ally has agreed with me, so mission accomplished.
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I was reading an article just the other day about school rankings and MBA's. The interesting thing was that in that lengthy article a representative from SmithKline PHARMACEUTICALS was consulted. The interesting part was that in that article the discussion was about how certain schools rank throughout the country and how their graduates were being sought out by high caliber corp America for this and that position. Near the middle of the article, this SmithKline rep was discussing several things but one applied directly to this discussion and I found it ironically close to what I had mentioned about a dozen times here.
This is a direct quote from a PHARMACEUTICALS person from SmithKline in regards to UNrealistic expectations:
"Some graduates haven't caught on that a very competitive and cost-conscious corporate America does not believe in an entitlement system," says Rolando Larino, a finance and procurement director at pharmaceuticals maker GlaxoSmithKline PLC. "Once a graduate is in the door at a major company, the past is forgotten and they will be judged by their future achievements, period, and not by perceived potential -- sort of like being a freshman again. A few never really adjust and become frustrated and leave companies in search of Neverland."
I guess this guy doesn't know anything just like me then, huh? Is HE not in the "field" either? Would what he is saying be totally false because it doesn't agree with you either?
ya they said they would pay 3k a year if she signed on, but w/ 22k a year in school 3k isn't shit to sign w/o being able negotiate your salary... so we are just going to pay them ourselves or see if she can negotiate them into her job...
kate was told they are projecting to be paying 65$ an hour by the time she graduates at this rate they are going now, so
So true. I dont even have a degree in anything, but making $60,000+ a year now for 3 years as a Logistics manager. Its what you enjoy doing and making the most out of it to reach it. Hell, I'm only 24. Some of my friends has degree from Ga state and doesnt enjoy what they are doing. They pick it because back then it was the shit to take and makes money, but shit these days change so rapidly.
Welcome to my world =] .. That kicks ass man!
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