Starting Salaries for the Top Ten Majors
I think they left out a few but can always go to salary.com to research whatever you want.
Starting Annual Salaries for Ten of PrincetonReview.com's Most-Viewed Majors*
Major Salary
Electrical Engineering $51,372
Accounting $41,110
Economics/Finance $40,906
Business Administration/Management $38,188
Marketing $35,321
Political Science $32,999
English $31,169
Biology $29,750
Psychology $27,791
Journalism $27,646
*NACE Summer 2004 Salary Survey
To be honest, most of the "numbers" that all these places come up with are very skewed. I know people that have "accounting degrees" and are not making $40k/yr.
If you use these numbers in order to choose a course of study, you will likely end up both dissapointed and frustrated when you graduate because you won't merely step into these high dollar salaries like you thought.
The only course of studies that you can truly bank on starting salary figures on are professional type jobs, i.e. doctors, dentists, pharmacists, lawyers, policeman, fireman, etc. All those jobs have a pretty tangible starting salary history. Everyone knows that a doctors starts out making money the second they start their residency. The hours suck ass for a few years, but eventually they make oodles of money in a private practice or specialize in something. Police start out, as most gov't jobs, with a definite and predictable pay scale. The same goes for the rest of the jobs listed above.
My point is that noone should really put too much emphasis on published "pay scales" except for jobs that are pretty standardized. If you get an "accounting" degree, you could use that in several completely different jobs and therefore two completely different salaries.
Choose a major by looking at what you're likely to do, rather than chasing money. If your family owns their own business and you're likely to follow suit, then choose a major that would help you in that rather than something you'll never use. For example, if your family owns a widgit business that exports widgits to China, well you would be well suited for a management degree or an business degree or even a double major with a minor in foreign language to be able to manage the business one day. An accounting degree probably wouldn't help much there because most of the actual accounting in a business is usually done by a dedicated OUTSIDE accountant once or a few times a year. Follow where I'm going?
Too often people enter college with only their imaginary pocket book in mind and daydream about the days when all that imaginary cash is going to simply roll on in. Reality is that a degree is merely a starting point to anyone's intended career. It guarantees noone any salary. It only guarantees that you learned some basic skills you will fine tune and emerge out in the real work field. High salaries are not usually just given because of a degree. Sometimes the lack of a degree will KEEP you from getting more money in a certain position, but I've seen quite a few people overcome that too.
The days of "do what you love and the money will come" are long gone. I don't know how long it's been since you've been out of college, but money is a prerequisite in determining a major these days. Do you really believe students are paying for 4 yrs. and perhaps grad work for what they're "likely" to do? The number one major on the list in my other post is a generic degree IMO. Generic, meaning you can put that degree to use in any workplace, whether it be a Mcdonald's or a financial firm. My point is, a degree needs to be very specific to your chosen career. My degrees will guarantee me a salary and I will have a job coming out of my last year, unlike some of the majors listed. I've never witnessed a situation where a degree will keep you from getting more money. Perhaps it's the environment in which you are accustom to. I am a firm believer that an education is the key to success. There is a reason why enrollment for non-traditional students is soring. They know the education and "real world" experience they've obtained is not sufficient to compete with the 25 year grad student. The salaries posted are median numbers, so there is wiggle room. Incoming college students need to realize what will be in demand in 4-6 years and how they can work to make themselves more marketable now. Let's not make your personal experiences the gospel.
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You think so? Well, let me ask you this question then: What do you base that statement on? I'm willing to gamble and say that you personally don't have the work experience to come up with that hypothesis. So are you just reading this is off some brochure your guidance counselor gave you or what? Because I know quite a few people that are making 6 figure salaries AND LOVE their jobs, the majority of which don't even have a college degree. How's that work then????Originally Posted by pharm_teg
What's that got to do with it? Did you new young folks suddenly re-discover the wheel? Maybe found another planet that affects the earth's gravitational pull and changes the way REAL BOSSES THINK?? Maybe the rules at work have changed so drastically since I graduated that suddenly NOW you are given experience as part of your college curriculum?????I don't know how long it's been since you've been out of college
but money is a prerequisite in determining a major these days.
Then just like I explained in the other thread, you are going about your studies in the totally wrong direction. A degree, unless it's in something like Medicine or Law or something where you go to work directly for the gov't, doesn't guarantee you squat. You keep thinking that way and come talk to me when you graduate.
The number one major on the list in my other post is a generic degree IMO. Generic, meaning you can put that degree to use in any workplace, whether it be a Mcdonald's or a financial firm.
Gee, I wonder why it's NUMBER 1, yet by your definition is the WRONG one...
I just explained why it doesn't always need to.My point is, a degree needs to be very specific to your chosen career.
Really? I'll bite then, what kind of salary is it you're "GUARANTEED"???? What kind of degree(s) is it you're getting? What kind of "job" are you already counting on as "in the bag" when you graduate???My degrees will guarantee me a salary and I will have a job coming out of my last year, unlike some of the majors listed.
That's probably because you've not been in the real job market in your life yet. Maybe it's because you've never had to make the decision between one job applicant and another. Maybe it's because you want to believe so badly that your chosen course of study is the absolute right one that you are blinded to the possibility that sometimes a generalized one will work just as well for 90% of the people (hence it's popularity...hmmmmI've never witnessed a situation where a degree will keep you from getting more money. Perhaps it's the environment in which you are accustom to.
"Environment I'm accustomed to"......are you trying to say that I have some menial job sweeping streets or something???? I hope you're not that dumb, are you??? Let me put it this way, anytime you wanna compare paystubs, I'll be happy to show you mine so your jaw can hit the ground and you feel uber stupid for thinking that I'm some kind of peon somewhere. You may wanna ask around my friend. I won't even have to say a word to brag on what I have. Some of your buddies right around here KNOW and can clearly tell you I'm far from a peon. So don't sit there and try to be smug and talk down to me when I'm the one that's been working in the same field for longer than you've even been ALLOWED to work.
I am a firm believer that an education is the key to success.
Change that to "one of the keys to success" and I'll finally agree with you.
There is a reason why enrollment for non-traditional students is soring. They know the education and "real world" experience they've obtained is not sufficient to compete with the 25 year grad student.
Newsflash, a 25yr old grad student doesn't know crap except what's been taught to them out of a book. Some of the most intelligent people in the world have never attended college nor gotten a degree.
The salaries posted are median numbers, so there is wiggle room. Incoming college students need to realize what will be in demand in 4-6 years and how they can work to make themselves more marketable now. Let's not make your personal experiences the gospel.
You or anyone else doesn't have to listen to me. I really could care less if you do or not. But keep thinking that you've got it made in the shade and are "guaranteed" this and "guaranteed" that when you get your little piece of paper.......you'll remember one day that you had this conversation with me I promise you. I too was arrogant and thought I knew it all at 20 something.......
Let me close by saying this: A specialized degree is only good for people who have ALREADY chosen their career without a doubt. A specialized degree is only good for those people that are going into careers that REQUIRE a specialized degree to remotely qualify, ie. doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, nurses, etc. Unless you have chosen a field in which a specialized degree is required, you are wasting your time and money in going after a "degree" because your mom's friend's sister's cousin read in her magazine that it would make you money.
Like I said, only a handful of degrees can safely say they'll earn you X amount of money minimum. After that, education is definetly great, but a degree doesn't "guarantee" you squat.
Again, I'm appalled at what you think is applicable to everyone. You want to compare paystubs but you claim money isn't everything. Then, you want compare your "illustrious" career with my chosen career that hasn't not taken off yet? I hope you can fit through a door with that giant ego. Furthermore, if you would have paid attention, you would know what my chosen career is, but you're too busy ranting about your rags to riches story.
Come back to me in 5 years and then we'll compare paychecks. I guess the 26y/o Pharms I know making $100k+ made some wrong decisions. LoL..again I find it hilarious that you think what you've "seen" and "experienced" somehow applies to everyone. Perhaps you should start a thread for people with no direction and shed some light on how a lone Business degree will turn them into Sam Walton after 20 years of work...lol. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Business Administration/Management $38,188
My dad does that shit..but he makes way more then that figure right there..
You may want to try reading the actual posts. The listed salaries are median. You do know what that is...right? BTW, thanks for adding your tidbits of widsom to the thread. You don't by any chance have a "general" Business degree do you? LoL
dude..why tha hell are you talkin bs about this? I dont care anymore im only 19 chill..I go to floyd college at north metro tech. den im gunna attend ksu
If you're not going to add anything of significance take it elsewhere. BTW, learn how to spell THEN at KSU. Goodluck.
..damn this is not english class..you tard..im outta this thread peace.
Jaime, you should be more concerned with the above comment..lol. Only 19? You'll be saying the same thing when you're 21 and then 25.
no..Im gunna be friggin married n have a great life when im 25 or atleast engaged to be married...skrew that shit. if im still in college when im 25 ill just drop dead .
You are putting words that I never uttered into my mouth. You need to go back and re-read my posts.
The sole disagreement I have with you is your smug ass attitude that ONLY specialized degrees are the ONLY degrees to have because that is obviuosly what YOU are seeking and according to you the only ones that "make money". And my whole stance on that has been that is simply not true. For professionals like Doctors, nurses, pharmacists, lawyers, etc. that is in fact true. For the vast majority of everyone else, it is not.
Put it this way: You have your happy little Pharmacy degree and go out to the big bad real world to seek your FIRST position as a pharmacist somewhere. The decision for the position comes down to you and another candidate. The ONLY difference between the two of you is his "degree" is not from Mercer Univ or UGA but from a little school in Kansas BUT he has 2 yrs experience and you have ZERO. Who do you think is going to get the job?????
Another scenario: You have a Pharmacy degree and Joe Schmo has a BA. Yall both apply for a position with ABC Medical supplies as a Director of one of their depts. He has experience in management and YOU don't. He has that "lesser" degree to your "superior" specialized one. Again, who do you think will get the job??? In this scenario your degree means very little because it is not centered around Pharmacy only. If it were, you'd be the hands down winner, but only in the PHARMACY setting. In the other 50 million job possibilities it's worthless. Follow now?
Gladly. You wanna put money on that? Maybe I get your paycheck if mine is higher??? What you fail to understand that I have very good friends who are ALREADY Pharmacists pal. Not yet Pharmacists, working Pharmacists. I know how much a Pharmacist makes. My aunt is a Pharmacist and has been as long as I can remember. So don't sit there all smug and think for a minute that I have noooo clue what a Pharmacist makes. I know exactly what a Pharmacist makes and judging by your estimates.....I may know MORE than YOU do.....Come back to me in 5 years and then we'll compare paychecks. I guess the 26y/o Pharms I know making $100k+ made some wrong decisions. LoL.
You have turned this into way more than what it was intended. I don't like your smug ass attitude that YOUR "degree" is sooo much better than a measly ole businees degree or any other degree for that matter.
#1- you don't have shit yet. Brag AFTER you have graduated. Brag AFTER you are making money. Brag AFTER you've got a JOB. Until then it's merely pompous and arrogant to do so. Especially when someone who's already BEEN THERE is telling you to cool it.
#2- I said I had an issue with the #'s game because there is no way to substantiate those numbers. In other words, those numbers are skewed. Some Pharmacists make $100k/yr whereas some make $50k/yr. So therefore if you say that a Pharmacy degree will "guarantee" you $100k/yr it is FALSE. A better statement would be to say, "Pharmacists can make upwards of a $100k....or Pharmacists make around $80K/yr". But to proclaim, when YOU have never even graduated from school yet to BE a Pharmacist, that you WILL make X amount of $ when you finish is again smug and foolish. I was merely telling you and everyone else that numbers don't mean shit. Choose a degree/career that will be in high demand and is versatile. You can also choose to go with a specialized degree if you want, but that's also putting all your eggs in one basket. You'd better be damn sure that's the career you want (which means you HAVE to know WHAT you want to do too) if you choose that because that specialized degree is good for only ONE type of job. So if that ONE type of job doesn't pan out for you, you will be left with nothing to fall back on. Then that specialized degree will only be as good as the JOB you can find. Again, you wanna argue with that? Be my guest.
Just to clarify something: I think that a career in Pharmacy is actually a good career. It is a good choice if you have the aptitude for it. Excellent. I'm not trying to talk down to anyone choosing that career path at all.
The same goes for Doctors, nurses, lawyers, etc. I have some very close friends that are studying right now to be nurses and doctors. My sister in law as a matter of fact is also going to school to be nurse....this after already having a degree in criminal justice (hence why I said to be sure of your career path BEFORE hand because if you don't use it it's worthless).
People go on to have very fruitful careers as Doctors, Nurses, Lawyers, or Pharmacists (just for you
That's my point and has been since the beginning.
I can't help but laugh..lol. You keep posting these long comments to prove what? That you're long winded? Trying to stroke you own ego b/c you make more than someone younger than you? AGAIN, your limited knowledge means very little..lol. All your doing is posting about how much you make. I don't think anyone is impressed by that. For someone older, you sure don't show it. I think it's the lack of an education on your part that compels you to post advice no one is paying attention to. Let me say,,,WOW! You know Pharmacists! Say it ain't so!!! LoL....you're one of those guys who knows someone in every profession and everything that comes out of your mouth is fact. Most of the scenarios you are proposing are speculation. You don't know what will happen in a particular situation, but for some reason you claim you will know that outcome. What you've experienced in your life does NOT apply to every situation. Don't speak for other hiring managers and pretend to know what will happen.
Really? Check your previous posts Mr. Egotistical..lol. I stated that we'll just have to agree to disagree but you keep going and going. It would be interesting if you actually held a prominent position, which would lead me to respect what you had to say, but...LoL. Well I'll just leave it at that. Goodluck.The sole disagreement I have with you is your smug ass attitude
Edit:Thanks for the approval :jerkit:Just to clarify something: I think that a career in Pharmacy is actually a good career
Again your brilliant grasp of the English language amazes me. "Limited"????? If I'm limited, what are you?????? :jerkit: I've already told you that I could care less what you think about me. So, who's repetitive now????
Once again, you are having trouble with English and comprehension. And once again, I'm really starting to believe that College is really not going to be your cup of tea if this is indicative of your reading skills. I've never once said HOW MUCH I make, simply that I make more than you so you have no right, reason, or ability to talk down your long ass smug and pompous nose at me.All your doing is posting about how much you make. I don't think anyone is impressed by that.
Actually I am showing it. If I were younger, I would've kicked your ass already. The fact that I've shown restraint shows my age for sure.For someone older, you sure don't show it.
I think it's the lack of an education on your part that compels you to post advice no one is paying attention to.
Are you kidding me? Again? What I'm typing this in Russian or Sanscrit that you are having that much of a hard time comprehending????
Ok, let me put in a way even your IQ challenged ass can comprehend it:
I....unlike YOU.....have in fact ALREADY GRADUATED from college. YOU?.....Have N-O-T.....advantage? ME. I....unlike YOU....HAVE a "degree".....YOU? have N-O-N-E.....advantage? ME again.
So let's review for you and anyone else that has the IQ of spit: YOU have nothing more than a high school diploma and I have a Bachelor's degree, YET YOU smugly say that it is I that "LACKS" an education??????
The sad part is that pencil pushers like you is what America has to look forward to as our "future"......
See, now you go and make such an intelligent and true statement as this that you shoot my previous hypothesis that you're a total idiot right out of the water......LoL....you're one of those guys who knows someone in every profession and everything that comes out of your mouth is fact.
Most of the scenarios you are proposing are speculation. You don't know what will happen in a particular situation, but for some reason you claim you will know that outcome.
And what are YOUR scenarios??? Where is YOUR proof? Your talking like your are plagiarising from a brochure in your guidance counserlor's office. You certainly have ZERO experience in anything you are professing as true.
Don't speak for other hiring managers and pretend to know what will happen.
Because YOU are more qualified to do so???? :jerkit:
I don't know how much more clearer I can be in telling you that if your approval and respect were a piece of paper.....I'd wipe my ass with it and flush it down the toilet as that's how important both of those are to me from you.It would be interesting if you actually held a prominent position, which would lead me to respect what you had to say, but...LoL. Well I'll just leave it at that.
My only reason for locking horns with you is that maybe some of the on lookers that are following this will follow the logic and make a smart decision rather than waste 4 yrs of their life for a piece of paper that is merely a room decoration. You are a hopeless case. I knew that last time you smarted off to me in another discussion. I challenged you then to do something and you didn't have the nads to accept the challenge. That showed me that you are one these little passive aggressive keyboard warriors. Maybe that will be something you can put on your precious resume one day.
Luck is for people that are ill prepared.Goodluck.
So I guess it should be, Goodluck to you.
As far as I can remember we (firemedic) or cops do not even touch 40 k a yr.
Btw, my ex co-worker is a doctor(PHD in pharmacist) and guess where she work?
PUBLIX.
You don't know how STRONG you are until being strong is the only
CHOICE you have!
'Born Ready!',LJ
LoL..but you continue on rambling about a topic you THINK you're an expert on. Does it bother you that much someone actually disagrees with you? Seems like you waste hours posting but it's the same drivel over and over again. No one's impressed b/c you work in the mortgage industry lol. For a man of your age, with such wisdom and distinction why do find it necessary to justify your worth? You continue to post about how educated and wealthy you are, but you won't disclose what your degree is in and when you graduated. You really hate the fact that people don't care about your opinions..lol. I read some of your posts and laugh at the fact that you actually attended an institution of higher learning. You don't have to justify your worth to me. You're an old man wanting your voice heard on the net. Just b/c a young man disagrees with you, you have to stomp your feet and shake your fist. I've deemed your prospective worthless when I read your "political debates." Someone doesn't agree you have to flex your non-existent muscle to prove your futile point. You have some experience in the mortgage industry...great. Give some advice related to that path. Again, don't speak for every hiring manager out there. Speak from your limited knowledge and education and everyone's happy. I think anyone who's read your long ho hum posts realize you're compensating for something you lack. Have a great day sir!Again your brilliant grasp of the English language amazes me. "Limited"????? If I'm limited, what are you?????? :jerkit: I've already told you that I could care less what you think about me. So, who's repetitive now????
Once again, you are having trouble with English and comprehension. And once again, I'm really starting to believe that College is really not going to be your cup of tea if this is indicative of your reading skills. I've never once said HOW MUCH I make, simply that I make more than you so you have no right, reason, or ability to talk down your long ass smug and pompous nose at me.
Actually I am showing it. If I were younger, I would've kicked your ass already. The fact that I've shown restraint shows my age for sure.
Are you kidding me? Again? What I'm typing this in Russian or Sanscrit that you are having that much of a hard time comprehending????
Ok, let me put in a way even your IQ challenged ass can comprehend it:
I....unlike YOU.....have in fact ALREADY GRADUATED from college. YOU?.....Have N-O-T.....advantage? ME. I....unlike YOU....HAVE a "degree".....YOU? have N-O-N-E.....advantage? ME again.
So let's review for you and anyone else that has the IQ of spit: YOU have nothing more than a high school diploma and I have a Bachelor's degree, YET YOU smugly say that it is I that "LACKS" an education??????
The sad part is that pencil pushers like you is what America has to look forward to as our "future"......
See, now you go and make such an intelligent and true statement as this that you shoot my previous hypothesis that you're a total idiot right out of the water......
And what are YOUR scenarios??? Where is YOUR proof? Your talking like your are plagiarising from a brochure in your guidance counserlor's office. You certainly have ZERO experience in anything you are professing as true.
Because YOU are more qualified to do so???? :jerkit:
I don't know how much more clearer I can be in telling you that if your approval and respect were a piece of paper.....I'd wipe my ass with it and flush it down the toilet as that's how important both of those are to me from you.
My only reason for locking horns with you is that maybe some of the on lookers that are following this will follow the logic and make a smart decision rather than waste 4 yrs of their life for a piece of paper that is merely a room decoration. You are a hopeless case. I knew that last time you smarted off to me in another discussion. I challenged you then to do something and you didn't have the nads to accept the challenge. That showed me that you are one these little passive aggressive keyboard warriors. Maybe that will be something you can put on your precious resume one day.
Luck is for people that are ill prepared.
So I guess it should be, Goodluck to you.
Edit: This forum was created to keep current and potential students informed. I ask everyone to refrain from flaming and snide remarks. If you have nothing of value to add to this forum, please do not post. I am included in this group. Thanks.
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You know....it's gotten boring to debate with you since it's obvious to everyone else but YOU that your ill equiped for that task.
Like I told you before and you pussied out.....you and I will meet face to face one day. When that day finally arrives, we'll definetly see what is and what isn't "non-existant" about me my friend. Until then, keep up with your keyboard warrior mentality, your precious high school diploma, and your never ending fear to answer direct questions. Those are all great attributes to have, just like the diploma YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE YET.....
Edit: This forum was created to keep current and potential students informed. I ask everyone to refrain from flaming and snide remarks. If you have nothing of value to add to this forum, please do not post. I am included in this group. Thanks.
When you are somebody to be telling people what to do, maybe people will listen. Until then, you know what I do with your suggestions.....
Be half a man and address my questions directly. Are you so scared that I'm right? Do you not have enough "education" or intelligence to defend your viewpoints??? Unattach your self from your mother's tit long enough to stand up on your own two feet and answer a direct question. I asked you a long time ago to let everyone in on your little secret to success plan, yet you try and tell me I am the one that hasn't told YOU when and where I graduated from????? KISS MY ASS. I asked you several times the same question and you won't answer it. Why? Who knows. Maybe mommy told you to get off the net and do your homework????
Don't demand shit from me until you man-up and answer the questions I asked you FIRST num nuts.
You want a discussion like grown folks, I'm game. You want to a flame war, I'm down. You want to handle it like men, I've been down. You want me to go away, then don't say SHIT to me. But know this: You don't get off my ass with your bullshit, I'll certainly not back down from your punk ass. Which one is it gonna be?
Well in other news, College tuition goes up yet again.
Edit: This forum was created to keep current and potential students informed. I ask everyone to refrain from flaming and snide remarks. If you have nothing of value to add to this forum, please do not post. I am included in this group. Thanks.
That's where I left it. If you have something you need to say, send a PM. Don't whore up the forum with your rants. You proved just how uneducated you really are. Have a great day!
Yes sir it has...LoLWell in other news, College tuition goes up yet again.
What part of FUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on don't you understand?????
Say something to me asshat and I'm gonna reply each and every time. Told you that before and I meant it.
You wanna move on? Then STFU and move on. Don't say another word to me if you don't want a reply.
Did you understand that time or you need a phonetics book with lots of pictures for you to understand????
LoL...another educated comment. Perhaps I missed the post about which school you attended and the degree received? You can reply all you want. It's nice to read the rants of a Rhodes Scholar.What part of FUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on don't you understand?????
Say something to me asshat and I'm gonna reply each and every time. Told you that before and I meant it.
You wanna move on? Then STFU and move on. Don't say another word to me if you don't want a reply.
Did you understand that time or you need a phonetics book with lots of pictures for you to understand????
Yes.....sighs
Wow, it only took you almost TWO weeks to respond.LoL...another educated comment. Perhaps I missed the post about which school you attended and the degree received? You can reply all you want. It's nice to read the rants of a Rhodes Scholar.
The school I attended was the school of- "I told you already to get off my nuts and grow up you arrogant little queer still sucking on mama's tit smart ass little newb to life yet you think you know shit" University.
My degree was in- "YOU keep fucking with me and you'll get a hard lesson in life" and a minor in "I warned you nicely already to get off my ass and in a warned war noone should get hurt, but you are too mentally challenged to figure that out on your own".
BTW, it was a BA and not a BS degree.
Pharmacist Salaries
Settings
Avg. Base
Avg. Starting Base
Total (National Avg.)
$68,000
$59,000
Chains
$78,500
$67,000
Independents
$68,000
$49,000
Supermarkets
$76,000
$64,000
Merchandisers
$77,000
$58,000
HMOs
$73,000
$61,000
Hospitals
$75,000
$61,500
Pharmacist Salaries by Region and Setting
Setting
East
Midwest
South
West
Chains
$78,000
$89,000
$70,500
$82,000
Hospitals
$69,000
$78,000
$72,000
$76,500
Independents
$65,000
$71,000
$63,500
$69,000
I got those numbers from a really good source actually. Still had a friend in my old department at work we use to do salary surveys. She send me this email.
^^^^^^Hmmmmmm, thanks Julio.
Boy, there are TONS of those $100K/year salaries listed there. Let's see, I know farm boy can probably count, but let's help him out a little (remember, he's only REALLY got a high school diploma
Maybe he's got a job lined up for "when" he graduates that is going to pay him that magical 6 figure salary that's so common and easy in his precious degree. :jerkit:
Don't get me wrong farm boy there are Pharmacists that make 6 figures sure enough. I know a few. But just like I tried telling you, the figures are SKEWED butt lick. NOT EVERY Pharmacist automatically make X amount "guaranteed" like you were spouting out and talking down your big ass nose at all those with "lesser" degrees you num nuts.
Just like I told you, one day your gonna remember you had this discussion with ME newb. I guess now you'll wanna argue with Julio that HE and HIS experience and the experience of someone who does this stuff for a living is also wayyyyy off too, huh????? :jerkit:
I love my job.
Matt
Pharmacist is a great career, do I believe they can make 100 K/1st year. NO....
I will disagree with those numbers. I've shadowed and worked for Pharms in a retail and clinical setting for years. Even for a clinical setting, those numbers are low. I guess the 1st year Pharms making $100k+, that I personally know, are just lucky I guess. :jerkit: Just like any salary survey, those numbers are median stats. The average salary for a Pharm in the Atlanta area is $94+k, not including benefits and overtime. But some how, you'll manage to tell me that Julio's numbers are more accurate than mine (Salary.com). Your original point, if you had a legit one, still has not been proven. So Julio posted some AVERAGE incomes? Does that disapprove 1st year Pharms don't/can't make 6 figures? I don't think so.
LoL....how old are you? You're no better than the e-thugs posting in the WL. You still can't divulge where you went to school and the degree received?The school I attended was the school of- "I told you already to get off my nuts and grow up you arrogant little queer still sucking on mama's tit smart ass little newb to life yet you think you know shit" University.
My degree was in- "YOU keep fucking with me and you'll get a hard lesson in life" and a minor in "I warned you nicely already to get off my ass and in a warned war noone should get hurt, but you are too mentally challenged to figure that out on your own".
Last edited by pharm_teg; 08-23-2005 at 06:29 PM.
Don't know. Pablo's Mother was a pharmacist, actually she retired in this field and he told me they don't start of making this amount of money, Later on down the rd, yes.
One of the big wigs at my job his wife is a pharmacist and he also told me she never started at 100K, actually shes no there yet. reason I was so curious is because Paul's wife is in school for this field and he says this all the time. But I yet to meet someone who has tell me and are in this field they started at 100K oh.. I forgot to mentioned one more thing...
About 2 month ago, I was having issues with my eyes and went to the CVS behind my job and actually was talking to the pharmacist there.. and asked him How much do you start of making as a pharmacist? .. He answer, depending who you work for as far as company but rookies start off around the 60 K mark, depending company they choose. MAYBE even less.
But he did say after awhile you make really good money. Hes been a pharmacist for 15 years. The more experience the more you will make... and hopefully land with a good company.
But still, 60 K starting off is still a not a bad start.
I know several people that are doing pharmacy
hahaha pharm teg acts like he knows everything doesnt he.
Julio, an average Pharm at CVS starts at around $42 an hour..LoL. There have been issues with Pharms who have been in a position for so long and then replaced by a recent Grad. So it's advantageous for older Pharms to be open about their pay. Perhaps when they went to Pharm School there wasn't an urgent need for Pharms? I have NEVER heard of a Pharm starting at $60k..LoL. I'm sure Paul's wife can vouch for that. Even high need rural areas start above $60k.
Still good money. Thats about 88k a year based on 40 hour work week with no OT. You think thats bad?
Until I see a weekly paycheck of $1923.00 Before tax For a brand new pharmacist on his 1st week. I will not belive it.
But anyways, Don't really know why we are talking about this.. is still good money though. =]
just for the record pharmacist make alot more than 60k... now there is a big diffrance between a RPH and a Dr.... both UGA/MERCER are Dr. only... retail starting from what kate has been told by the recuiting people:
Kroger = 96k
CVS = 98k
now it totaly depends on company and the job... you have research, retail, hospital, and gov. all pay different. one of kates friends was offered 115k to start for Bilo in Chattanooga.
SALARY.COM >>> A typical Pharmacist working in the United States earns a median base salary of $93,834, according to our analysis of data reported by corporate HR departments. Half of the people in this job earn between $88,951 and $98,301.
if you work for the gov you start out at 46k (after taxes) and it goes up to like 98k (after taxes)
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and if you want more proof i'll take you to two of kates bosses houses... they both live in 350-450k homes and both of their husbands don't work
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Last edited by 4dmin; 08-23-2005 at 07:31 PM.
Like I said, Until I personally see a 1st week paycheck of a 1st timer for $1923.00 I will not believe it after speaking with people who been doing this.. Unless they were lying to me. This topic was reffering to Fresh out of school people, correct ?
We are talking noobs here.
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and if you want more proof i'll take you to two of kates bosses houses... they both live in 350-450k homes and both of their husbands don't work
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How long they been pharmacist?
A woman will not support me.. Sorry. No matter how much she makes.. I can never be a stay at home Guy.. Unless I'm rich.
Damn metrosexuals.
Now there is a BIG surprise. :jerkit: Is it because you didn't come up with them or because YOU don't agree or maybe because it proves you're a tool?
I guess you're now Dougie Houser, M.D. too, eh? What are you, 20-21? How then could you be "working" with Pharms anywhere for YEARS???? :jerkit: Oh wait, I forgot.....you not only are you going to the ONLY school worth a shit studying the ONLY course of study that's worth a shit, but you also went to the prestigious all jerks private school for queers that allows TEENAGE snot nosed know it alls like yourself INTERN and WORK with all kinds of Pharmacies.....I've shadowed and worked for Pharms in a retail and clinical setting for years. Even for a clinical setting, those numbers are low. I guess the 1st year Pharms making $100k+, that I personally know, are just lucky I guess. :jerkit: Just like any salary survey, those numbers are median stats.
Hmmm, got it. Now in YOUR world they not only pay 6 figure salaries to brand new, no experience having, 20 something know-it-alls, but they also pay SALARIED personnel OVERTIME too......wow, talk about a hell of a package there boss man. Look up the definition for "salaried" and "hourly" genius. You are either one or the other but rarely both. Overtime implies you worked OVER the amount of HOURS alloted for a certain time period, i.e. majority of the time it's referring to HOURLY employees and NOT salaried. How many Pharmacists in your super vast experience in this worldThe average salary for a Pharm in the Atlanta area is $94+k, not including benefits and overtime.
Besides, using your very generous math we could suddenly say that good ole JR working at the Mcdonald's down the street doesn't make the $7/hr he actually makes, but in reality he makes $7/hr + $10.50 OT + 3% FICA the employer puts in + 2% unemployment the employer pays + $30/mo for insurance coverage = Good grief now that $7/hr job is suddenly $15/hr.....woo hoo, let's all go work for Mcdonalds then.... :jerkit:
We all know that the internet is far more accurate than actual research done by an individual who does that for a living....... :jerkit: . Gotcha.But some how, you'll manage to tell me that Julio's numbers are more accurate than mine (Salary.com).
Right, cause your precious 1 website says its so, huh?Your original point, if you had a legit one, still has not been proven. So Julio posted some AVERAGE incomes? Does that disapprove 1st year Pharms don't/can't make 6 figures? I don't think so.
The NUMBERS in those things are skewed. Why? Because nimrods like you ASSume that it's gospel and EXPECT to get the highest one of those numbers AUTOMATICALLY eventhough the numbers vary widely depending on the source of the report because there is NO way to question it's validity. Someone could simply sit back and put anything they want in a resume SELLING site or someone could do REAL research for those numbers. How can idiots like you tell the difference? As it's been crystally proven in this thread, morons like you can't. THAT is my point since the beginning and even using just the numbers posted in this very thread it PROVES my point dramatically. Julio posted numbers that show a wide spread and you posted completely different numbers allegedly for the same thing. So, you're right.....I didn't PROVE my point at all asshat.
LoL....how old are you? You're no better than the e-thugs posting in the WL. You still can't divulge where you went to school and the degree received?
What does my age have to do with the fact that you got OWNED hard but you're just too arrogant and stupid to admit it????
I told you before that you weren't equiped to handle this type of discussion. You got OWNED hard while I proved that.
Instead of arguing with me you should spend more time on figuring out how to try and graduate so you can finally move out of mommy and daddy's house like big boys do.
That's exactly what I've been trying to say until dingleberry took it personal.
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