So, I have been reading the bible and.....

[Tracy]

I am being completely selfish about it. I'm reading the bible right now and next I will move onto the Koran and so on until I feel I have been "struck". If I never get to that place, then I guess I may just burn in hell. Overall, I feel like a pretty good person and I think that's what God wants from what I am hearing and reading.

To me, what you just said is I should have faith because God says so. Awesome. That helped me have faith!

I do believe there is a God. I just don't know his name or whether or not I believe in the Bible entirely. So, referring me back to what the Bible says, when I have questions about what the Bible says and why I should believe doesn't answer any of my questions about the Bible. It's just like a big circle that I never get to the end of.

[pinoyboy]

I am being completely selfish about it. I'm reading the bible right now and next I will move onto the Koran and so on until I feel I have been "struck". If I never get to that place, then I guess I may just burn in hell. Overall, I feel like a pretty good person and I think that's what God wants from what I am hearing and reading.

To me, what you just said is I should have faith because God says so. Awesome. That helped me have faith!

I do believe there is a God. I just don't know his name or whether or not I believe in the Bible entirely. So, referring me back to what the Bible says, when I have questions about what the Bible says and why I should believe doesn't answer any of my questions about the Bible. It's just like a big circle that I never get to the end of.

Well, I honestly think thats not the right way you will find your answer. I am sure God has a plan for you and maybe this is it, and who am I to question Him?

[Tracy]

Well, I honestly think thats not the right way you will find your answer. I am sure God has a plan for you and maybe this is it, and who am I to question Him?

Which part do you feel is not the right way? The reading of the other books?

[pinoyboy]

Which part do you feel is not the right way? The reading of the other books?

It just does not sound right to me how your telling God to prove himself to you. Were his children and He is our father.

I just started thinking about it and wondered what our reaction would be if some child demanded us for something. Maybe a better example for you, some random person or child came up to you and said you couldn't drift and for some reason there was no car around(sorry for the bad example! It sounded better in my head=P) I know I probably wouldn't handle that in the best way, but God does because He is love.

Anyways, I'm browsing through my Bible to find some parts that may be answers to your questions, instead of you just reading parts that you heard before, or is just mostly history. So far, I've found James 2:14-26

If you want, I could try to search more things if you would be interested.

[Tracy]

It just does not sound right to me how your telling God to prove himself to you. Were his children and He is our father.

I just started thinking about it and wondered what our reaction would be if some child demanded us for something. I know I probably wouldn't handle that in the best way, but God does because He is love.

Anyways, I'm browsing through my Bible to find some parts that may be answers to your questions, instead of you just reading parts that you heard before, or is just mostly history. So far, I've found James 2:14-26

If you want, I could try to search more things if you would be interested.

I'm not demanding anything. I'm just saying how I feel. I can't change how I feel right now. I am trying to and being honest with myself and with my feelings and why I am doing what I am doing seems to be the best way.

I'm interested. But what exactly are you looking for....like which question are you trying to answer?

I just feel that when I ask a question about the Bible, I don't want to be referred back to it. I want a "real" humanly interpreted answer. I want to know what other took from what the Bible says. I am already reading the Bible and I still have questions. I just don't understand how the Bible can answer my questions about the Bible that I am questioning

[man]

It's funny cause everyone I find who openly bashes religion is always ignorant and has no real understanding of how religions work. I'm not saying if you aren't religious you're ignorant. It's just funny because the people who reject religion are 1 of 2 people:

1. Those that are truly ignorant and use extremely biased material to try to prove their point. How are you going to use examples from the Bible when you don't understand it? That's like trying to convince a physics professor that gravity doesn't exist, and you've never taken a physics course in your life.

2. Those that understand religion but choose to reject it. These are the people you never hear anything out of. This is the path that Tracy is going down and it is very respectable. Even if she finishes the Bible but rejects the religion, at least she has her facts right and understands what she is rejecting.

[Tracy]

2. Those that understand religion but choose to reject it. These are the people you never hear anything out of. This is the path that Tracy is going down and it is very respectable. Even if she finishes the Bible but rejects the religion, at least she has her facts right and understands what she is rejecting.

This is another reason I am reading. I like to debate (some call it arguing). In doing so, I like to know my shit. I just think along the way of educating myself, maybe something will make sense. If it doesn't at least I can say I tried and continue to argue my points...all while knowing my shit.

[green91]

The interesting thing is most overly religious people do this exact same thing also

1. Those that are truly ignorant and use extremely biased material to try to prove their point. How are you going to use examples from the Bible when you don't understand it? That's like trying to convince a physics professor that gravity doesn't exist, and you've never taken a physics course in your life.

[BABY J]

I reject it and I understand more about it than most people who support it. Religion is the worst thing to happen to spirituality - PERIOD. To each his own though.

Whatever makes people sleep better at night for their 80 years here is fine by me, as long as it doesn't cause problems for me. G/L Tracy, and if you have questions I think that studying religion (MANY, not just Christianity) in college, and having a grandad who is a preacher I am sure I can get you the answers you will need... although a lot of the answers leads to new questions. It's quite the mind fuck, but some people make it work (in part) for them. It's written in a way that you never "arrive" - u die somewhere along the way before you get there.

[Tracy]

I reject it and I understand more about it than most people who support it. Religion is the worst thing to happen to spirituality - PERIOD. To each his own though.

Whatever makes people sleep better at night for their 80 years here is fine by me, as long as it doesn't cause problems for me. G/L Tracy, and if you have questions I think that studying religion (MANY, not just Christianity) in college, and having a grandad who is a preacher I am sure I can get you the answers you will need... although a lot of the answers leads to new questions. It's quite the mind fuck, but some people make it work (in part) for them. It's written in a way that you never "arrive" - u die somewhere along the way before you get there.

Thanks

This is also one of my points when I say I am generally a good person and I think God is fine with that. That's what makes me feel ok about religion and how I have handled it. I have my complete view on what I think is true. It's a mix of things that just make common sense TO ME. It would be cool to pick up a book that verified what I believe in my heart...I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice. I sleep just fine, Bible or not

[bu villain]

Thanks

This is also one of my points when I say I am generally a good person and I think God is fine with that. That's what makes me feel ok about religion and how I have handled it. I have my complete view on what I think is true. It's a mix of things that just make common sense TO ME. It would be cool to pick up a book that verified what I believe in my heart...I don't expect it to happen, but it would be nice. I sleep just fine, Bible or not

First off I want to say I am always happy to see people who ask "Why do I believe this" and to search for truth. I was agnostic for many years until I really started studying religion and philosophy more in depth which has now led me to atheism. Who knows, maybe in 10 years I will believe in God. The important thing is to never stop asking questions and learning. Anyways...

What I found particularly interesting about your post above is that you seem to be very comfortable with your beliefs and actions but yet you are looking for a book to affirm you. Why are you looking for agreement from a book? Do you feel that your beliefs are any more or less valid because someone else wrote them down on paper? I completely support reading religious writings but I am just wondering what you are hoping to find and what would you do differently if you find what you are looking for. Good luck with your search.

[Tracy]

First off I want to say I am always happy to see people who ask "Why do I believe this" and to search for truth. I was agnostic for many years until I really started studying religion and philosophy more in depth which has now led me to atheism. Who knows, maybe in 10 years I will believe in God. The important thing is to never stop asking questions and learning. Anyways...

What I found particularly interesting about your post above is that you seem to be very comfortable with your beliefs and actions but yet you are looking for a book to affirm you. Why are you looking for agreement from a book? Do you feel that your beliefs are any more or less valid because someone else wrote them down on paper? I completely support reading religious writings but I am just wondering what you are hoping to find and what would you do differently if you find what you are looking for. Good luck with your search.

There is a mixed answer for this for me. I probably am kind of looking for something. I'm not completely sure what it is. I do know that I am afraid to die. It has scared me since I was little. Dan says it's because I have no faith. I also know that I am ready to start THINKING about kids. I need to figure out how to answer their questions (if and when they have them) and that means I have to be educated. That is important to me.

I already said this one, but I like to argue, as you well know . That being said, I like to be educated on what I am arguing about. Right now, I only know the bits and pieces of the Bible that I have heard around the camp fire. I can't have a valid argument with facts and examples if I don't read. Religion seems to come up often (along with politics and I am going to learn that next ).

[bu villain]

There is a mixed answer for this for me. I probably am kind of looking for something. I'm not completely sure what it is. I do know that I am afraid to die. It has scared me since I was little. Dan says it's because I have no faith. I also know that I am ready to start THINKING about kids. I need to figure out how to answer their questions (if and when they have them) and that means I have to be educated. That is important to me.

You are afraid to die because you do not know what comes next. It is natural for people to be afraid of the unknown. And your friend Dan may be right. If you have "faith" that you will go to heaven then you will feel better about death. Unfortunately, simply believing something because it makes you feel better does not make it true. As far as kids go, it's good that you want to be able to educate them and you should persue that. If you think reading the bible will help then thats great. Just remember that just because it is written in a book doesn't make it true (doesn't make it false either) and no parent has all the answers to everything. Its okay to tell your child that you don't always know the answer to all their questions. Be honest with them.

[man]

I would also like to add that I am not religious.

[BABY J]

^^ Thank you for correcting that - I am spiritual, but like you I am not religious either. Being spiritual leads me to teach people right, do right, and be a good steward -- NOT b/c I think there are streets of gold somewhere... but b/c it's the right thing to do.

[man]

^^ Thank you for correcting that - I am spiritual, but like you I am not religious either.

I would also like to point out that my statement was directed more towards Maniac.

[ISAtlanta300]

^^ Thank you for correcting that - I am spiritual, but like you I am not religious either. Being spiritual leads me to teach people right, do right, and be a good steward -- NOT b/c I think there are streets of gold somewhere... but b/c it's the right thing to do.

What makes the right thing to do, the right thing to do? Maybe the right thing to do is to just jump on every female and have sex with them... that's how it happens in the animal world anyways.. and according to many.. we evolved from animals....

Surely the 'right thing to do' must have be influenced from somewhere.. a rule, a mantra, a guideline, a teaching..... call it if you will...., but definitely not a 'theory'....

don't get me wrong, I think it is very honorable what you are doing, but religion is not that far off in its teachings. It is based on the same principles of 'good', and 'doing the right thing', adding only the component of an omnipotent God.

[Tracy]

What makes the right thing to do, the right thing to do? Maybe the right thing to do is to just jump on every female and have sex with them... that's how it happens in the animal world anyways.. and according to many.. we evolved from animals....

Surely the 'right thing to do' must have be influenced from somewhere.. a rule, a mantra, a guideline, a teaching..... call it if you will...., but definitely not a 'theory'....

don't get me wrong, I think it is very honorable what you are doing, but religion is not that far off in its teachings. It is based on the same principles of 'good', and 'doing the right thing', adding only the component of an omnipotent God.

We ARE part of the animal kingdom.

[BABY J]

What makes the right thing to do, the right thing to do? Maybe the right thing to do is to just jump on every female and have sex with them... that's how it happens in the animal world anyways.. and according to many.. we evolved from animals....

Surely the 'right thing to do' must have be influenced from somewhere.. a rule, a mantra, a guideline, a teaching..... call it if you will...., but definitely not a 'theory'....

don't get me wrong, I think it is very honorable what you are doing, but religion is not that far off in its teachings. It is based on the same principles of 'good', and 'doing the right thing', adding only the component of an omnipotent God.

What I should have said - is doing what I feel is right - Mormans think that it's right to have multiple wives. Extreme Islamics think it's right to blow up people in a busy market. Extreme christians feel it's right to connect EVERY decision of their life to God, when he CLEARLY made us the "smartest" species on this planet. And as far as animals go, look around. It's not a free for all - animals "court" and "win" their mates just like we do - it's not instant ass for every cow in the pasture and bird in the sky.

You can't say "religion is based off of everything that is 'good'", b/c there are MANY religions. And that's why I say that religion is the worst thing to happen to spirituality - there are more people dead b/c of religion than anything else you can name - yeah... how holy is that? LOL.

I am not saying that there is no God - what I will say that in my opinion, we have missed the whole ship on what we are supposed to be doing here. People kneel down beside their bed saying "oh God help the starving" and then run to their fridge and throw out a gallon of milk just b/c it's getting close to the expiration date. They kneel down and say "oh God, bless the homeless", yet an entire room of their 3BR house is dedicated to storing old porn mags and "unused" furniture. If there is a God (in my mind), he is looking down and saying "what a worthless heap of shit I have created." I have given them the best of ALL creatures that I have created, yet they ask for more from ME. I have given them EVERY tool at their reach if they would just reach at it, yet they reach their hands UP to me, when they should be reaching their arms OUT to each other. The less traveled you are... the less you have seen in the world, the easier it is to believe that there is a God and gold streets and a heaven waiting for you.

Slowly but surely, people all over the world are getting "out" of "religion". They are realizing that their 80 years on Earth is likely the best life they will ever have - there is no proof otherwise. With this mentality, it FORCES you to treat people right the FIRST time around - b/c there is no "repenting" to a non-existing God later. It FORCES you to do the right thing the 1st time, and not use "well, God knows my heart/intentions" cop-out when you make bad choices. W/ no God (or God as it is taught) there is no WMD - no war.

I do hope that every1 finds whatever it is you are lookinf for in life - what a waste to spend your whole life following/looking, but still not being able to answer the most basic questions for yourself or your friends. GOod day.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...5&postcount=81

and

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...8&postcount=26

[Tracy]

What I should have said - is doing what I feel is right - Mormans think that it's right to have multiple wives. Extreme Islamics think it's right to blow up people in a busy market. Extreme christians feel it's right to connect EVERY decision of their life to God, when he CLEARLY made us the "smartest" species on this planet. And as far as animals go, look around. It's not a free for all - animals "court" and "win" their mates just like we do - it's not instant ass for every cow in the pasture and bird in the sky.

You can't say "religion is based off of everything that is 'good'", b/c there are MANY religions. And that's why I say that religion is the worst thing to happen to spirituality - there are more people dead b/c of religion than anything else you can name - yeah... how holy is that? LOL.

I am not saying that there is no God - what I will say that in my opinion, we have missed the whole ship on what we are supposed to be doing here. People kneel down beside their bed saying "oh God help the starving" and then run to their fridge and throw out a gallon of milk just b/c it's getting close to the expiration date. They kneel down and say "oh God, bless the homeless", yet an entire room of their 3BR house is dedicated to storing old porn mags and "unused" furniture. If there is a God (in my mind), he is looking down and saying "what a worthless heap of shit I have created." I have given them the best of ALL creatures that I have created, yet they ask for more from ME. I have given them EVERY tool at their reach if they would just reach at it, yet they reach their hands UP to me, when they should be reaching their arms OUT to each other. The less traveled you are... the less you have seen in the world, the easier it is to believe that there is a God and gold streets and a heaven waiting for you.

Slowly but surely, people all over the world are getting "out" of "religion". They are realizing that their 80 years on Earth is likely the best life they will ever have - there is no proof otherwise. With this mentality, it FORCES you to treat people right the FIRST time around - b/c there is no "repenting" to a non-existing God later. It FORCES you to do the right thing the 1st time, and not use "well, God knows my heart/intentions" cop-out when you make bad choices. W/ no God (or God as it is taught) there is no WMD - no war.

I do hope that every1 finds whatever it is you are lookinf for in life - what a waste to spend your whole life following/looking, but still not being able to answer the most basic questions for yourself or your friends. GOod day.

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...5&postcount=81

and

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...8&postcount=26

Amen!!!!!111111111!!!!!

*bold - definitely something to think about

[BABY J]

I know man - we're good.

[Killer]

fcman repped.... great post man...

[The Ren]

interesting..

[Tracy]

I just read your links. You think just like me. Why did you study religion?

[The Ren]

I can attest to that... Scott isnt jewish.. I have been disowned by most of my family.. my dad hasnt spoken to me in 3 1/2 years.. but to me.. he is the one i love.. the one i wanna wake up with...

[BABY J]

I can attest to that... Scott isnt jewish.. I have been disowned by most of my family.. my dad hasnt spoken to me in 3 1/2 years.. but to me.. he is the one i love.. the one i wanna wake up with...

Imagine that - "love conquers all - as long as they are both Jewish". What a mind fuck. Religion/religious people are such hypocrites sometimes. But so is every1 else. The most articulate person I know that supports it on IA is Jaime... we have a love/love relationship and I ebjoy everytime we talk - bc we both get our points across and we still respect each other.

[ISAtlanta300]

Imagine that - "love conquers all - as long as they are both Jewish". What a mind fuck. Religion/religious people are such hypocrites sometimes. But so is every1 else. The most articulate person I know that supports it on IA is Jaime... we have a love/love relationship and I ebjoy everytime we talk - bc we both get our points across and we still respect each other.

But see, i think you are probably confusing religion as a group, 'clique' or 'sect' or just being RELIGIOUS in that you believe in God. In my example, I don't tithe. I don't go to church (but i was raised a catholic). I don't believe in the Pope. But yet I consider myself a religious person because i believe in God.....

It's interesting because me and my fiancee were talking about it. She was not raised in any religion. I was raised a catholic. Yet, we have basically the same views on God.

Indeed I agree with you that the true danger is from the fanatics that would not dare question their religion, and seek out answers for themselves or do their research. I did, (still doing it as a matter of fact) and hence i have a basis or opinion in what i believe it. I may be wrong, or i may be right. In the end there will be only one answer though.

There are a lot of thing that i know that I am not certain about, but I know that in the end lest i be judged, I be judged for my deeds and not my denomination.

[BABY J]

But see, i think you are probably confusing religion as a group, 'clique' or 'sect' or just being RELIGIOUS in that you believe in God. In my example, I don't tithe. I don't go to church (but i was raised a catholic). I don't believe in the Pope. But yet I consider myself a religious person because i believe in God.....

It's interesting because me and my fiancee were talking about it. She was not raised in any religion. I was raised a catholic. Yet, we have basically the same views on God.

Indeed I agree with you that the true danger is from the fanatics that would not dare question their religion, and seek out answers for themselves or do their research. I did, (still doing it as a matter of fact) and hence i have a basis or opinion in what i believe it. I may be wrong, or i may be right. In the end there will be only one answer though.

There are a lot of thing that i know that I am not certain about, but I know that in the end lest i be judged, I be judged for my deeds and not my denomination.

I assure you that I am not confused - I use terms that most will "get" on this forum. As far as you and your fiance are concerned - tell me what you think of this verse:

2 Corinthians 6:14/ (King James Version)

How far does this verse reach out to YOU?? How far should followers take it? Just a thought - and I want your input.

[Tracy]

I assure you that I am not confused - I use terms that most will "get" on this forum. As far as you and your fiance are concerned - tell me what you think of this verse:

2 Corinthians 6:14/ (King James Version)

How far does this verse reach out to YOU?? How far should followers take it? Just a thought - and I want your input.

great! Now I have to go read that...if i can ever find it!

[BABY J]

I grew up in a religious family. My grandad is the pastor of a Baptist church in Griffin. I grew up singing in the choir, playing bass/drums. As I got older - I chose a non-denominational church (Creflo Dollar Jr.) and would only help (play bass) my gramps when I could. There is one standard theme I think - and that is to "faith away" parts of 'religon' that can't be understood - and that was not good enough for me. I do LOVE the teachings of the bible (no all of the bible is something you want to share w/ your kids though) - HOWEVER, devout Christians (IMO) are a product of their environment. If they were born in Iraq, chances are they would be Islamic. If you were born/raised in China, chances are you'd be Buddhist. People run around saying "I am Presbyterian" - but if you ask them "why not Lutheran" they could not tell you 1) what a Lutheran is, or 2) what a Presbyterian is - or how they differ.

So in order for me to choose, I gathered as much information as I could - something that a lot of Christians don't/haven't done. You are doing the right thing by educating yourself before you make what I think is a very personal choice for your life. Don't be some1 that does something, but doesn't know why. Once you start studyung religion - REALLY studying it, you find out that there are more similarities than there are differences... yet Christians seem to be the most arrogant of them all (IMO).

Good luck.

[The Ren]

I'm not saying that I don't believe in my religon.. This is alot of things in my religon im 100% aggreance on, but there are alot im not. In this day in age its not always easy finding someone you love unconditionally and who love you back the same.. and why not hold on to that when you find it you know?

[revsk8erdude]

well im atheist, so nothing applies to me. YAY!

so basically i could run someone over, and not feel bad about it, or have to worry about going to hell. LOL!

[OneSlow5pt0]

y is that native americans and medevil people talk a bout dinosaurs but the bible doesnt..

but it does talk bout unicorns in the bible

[BABY J]

updates?

[Tracy]

I am going to start it back up this weekend. I have a flight somewhere, so it should be a good time. i have had a lot going on recently with all of the end of the year stuff...and I got a little bogged down with genesis. I think I am going to skip ahead for a minute. All of this lineage is boring.

[Glides]

So far I have found lots of slavery and incest. I have also found that God promised A LOT of people the same thing, like a long line of descendents and lots of land.

I decided to read it just so i can say i have and see how it effects me. I will post my questions in here and maybe some of the bible bangers can help me understand.

I guess the first question is where did the women come from for Adam and Eve's boys?

Amazing how there are no real answers to this, the most simple problem of creation. Looks like Eve was a little worn out for the first 17 years or so.

Just know that religion pretty much boils down to this: You either worship god and no others, or you burn in hell for eternity. Religion of fear.

[ahabion]

Tracy, I'm glad you are taking your steps into educating yourself. I would recommend skipping around from book to book so you don't get so bored. Especially in the Old Testament... lots of history, boring geneology... skip around...

For me, when I read a good book in the Bible, I'd ask myself, "What happened before hand?" so that prompted me to read the book before it or after... to read it straight thru is quite a feat and one could get very worn/burnt out very fast... find something that interests you... I like war movies... so I went to Kings and Chronicles and read about exactly that... war!

You really don't need to read the entire Bible to understand what its ment for. It is a historical book, regardless of what ppl say. Its a compilation of different books put into a singular, chronological form. In fact, there are more books out there that are not in the Bible and yes, it was written by man and many different men contributed to the Bible (some of which, men deemed not important enough to add to the Bible)... but it all leads to the same thing and they all foretell the same prophecy to come. Which is the New Testament...

an analogy I like to make for the Bible is this:

You have a thousand white tiles and only a couple of red tiles... all of which are face down... what is the likelihood that for every tile you pick it, it happens to be the red tiles? (white representing the stories/books/scrolls written by different authors and men, red representing the stories/books/scrolls written by different authors and men but telling of the same story)

Not sure if that makes sense... but find the answers for yourself and come back with your questions. Tho i know you hate faith, the only person that will every truley understand it, is yourself. It is really up to you to question your faith and then find the answer to your questions by researching it yourself. What someone says about God and Jesus should not be taken as gospel, but one should always research into it yourself... so you can find the true meaning for yourself...

[Tracy]

Tracy, I'm glad you are taking your steps into educating yourself. I would recommend skipping around from book to book so you don't get so bored. Especially in the Old Testament... lots of history, boring geneology... skip around...

For me, when I read a good book in the Bible, I'd ask myself, "What happened before hand?" so that prompted me to read the book before it or after... to read it straight thru is quite a feat and one could get very worn/burnt out very fast... find something that interests you... I like war movies... so I went to Kings and Chronicles and read about exactly that... war!

You really don't need to read the entire Bible to understand what its ment for. It is a historical book, regardless of what ppl say. Its a compilation of different books put into a singular, chronological form. In fact, there are more books out there that are not in the Bible and yes, it was written by man and many different men contributed to the Bible (some of which, men deemed not important enough to add to the Bible)... but it all leads to the same thing and they all foretell the same prophecy to come. Which is the New Testament...

an analogy I like to make for the Bible is this:

You have a thousand white tiles and only a couple of red tiles... all of which are face down... what is the likelihood that for every tile you pick it, it happens to be the red tiles? (white representing the stories/books/scrolls written by different authors and men, red representing the stories/books/scrolls written by different authors and men but telling of the same story)

Not sure if that makes sense... but find the answers for yourself and come back with your questions. Tho i know you hate faith, the only person that will every truley understand it, is yourself. It is really up to you to question your faith and then find the answer to your questions by researching it yourself. What someone says about God and Jesus should not be taken as gospel, but one should always research into it yourself... so you can find the true meaning for yourself...

I read what you are saying. I also have faith...just a different kind. Its not the same as the people who say if you don't believe in god, you are going to hell I am also pretty spiritual. I just hate the word religion. It adds such a stigma to me. In the end, I think I am doing exactly what you are getting at and I think I am already at the place you are talking about. I just feel like everyone says it's wrong because I look at it all differently. I get the point, and always have, that the Bible is supposed to be a "story". It just seems that whenever I get into the "religion" discussion with someone, they are so SURE that their belief if gospel . Common sense wise, I know I don't have to question every detail of the Bible. I know there are things left out and for us to figure out. I also know that I need to read in order to have my own arguments and grounds for my beliefs. Right now I am just going on "faith"...how ironic is that? It just happens to be my own version of faith.

[ahabion]

yours and yours alone is the only faith that you will ever need. Your faith is what you call your own...

Faith in yourself, faith in your car, faith in whatever you need to make you feel satisfied about life. But its YOUR faith... no one elses.

[GIXXERDK]

The bible is full of mistakes, just like our history books.