A car carrier arrived at work today (BMW DRIVERS VERSUS IA...DRAMA FTW!)

[kendogg]

dude i saw DinanM3 do like 220whp on the dyno... STI would rape that car. actually i have an idea... Miranda races her STI i wonder if she has some track time at Road Atlanta; lets put MIRANDA a girl in the STI up against DinanM3?

what you guys think?

You guys talk about straihgt-line racing, why not run a stock STi on the highway vs. a stock M3? Yeah, anybdoyu willa dmit that the STi will rape it off the line, but it's AWD< so be hoenst, it does have ana dvantage tehre. The gearing sucks for highway sue, thoguh, double overdrives, vs. the close ratio 5 speed the M3 uses, and yes, STOCK E36 M3's have slightly pulled stock STi's to the 155 mph limiter on the M3. Modded, thast a whole nother story. The STi becomes alot more of a monster with basic turbo mods.

Whats done to Miranda's car? I'm curious, as I don't erally know. I'd bet it could be a decent race. I know one thign, whenm I was at RA a few weeks ago, there were 2 STi's tehre, one bone stock, getting pulled by E36 M3's, and one was modded, but my god was that guy eating it up!

[The Yousef]

You guys talk about straihgt-line racing, why not run a stock STi on the highway vs. a stock M3? Yeah, anybdoyu willa dmit that the STi will rape it off the line, but it's AWD< so be hoenst, it does have ana dvantage tehre. The gearing sucks for highway sue, thoguh, double overdrives, vs. the close ratio 5 speed the M3 uses, and yes, STOCK E36 M3's have slightly pulled stock STi's to the 155 mph limiter on the M3. Modded, thast a whole nother story. The STi becomes alot more of a monster with basic turbo mods.

Whats done to Miranda's car? I'm curious, as I don't erally know. I'd bet it could be a decent race. I know one thign, whenm I was at RA a few weeks ago, there were 2 STi's tehre, one bone stock, getting pulled by E36 M3's, and one was modded, but my god was that guy eating it up!

wait...you guys have been arguing about Road Atlanta....what's with this change of heart?

[4dmin]

You guys talk about straihgt-line racing, why not run a stock STi on the highway vs. a stock M3? Yeah, anybdoyu willa dmit that the STi will rape it off the line, but it's AWD< so be hoenst, it does have ana dvantage tehre. The gearing sucks for highway sue, thoguh, double overdrives, vs. the close ratio 5 speed the M3 uses, and yes, STOCK E36 M3's have slightly pulled stock STi's to the 155 mph limiter on the M3. Modded, thast a whole nother story. The STi becomes alot more of a monster with basic turbo mods.

Whats done to Miranda's car? I'm curious, as I don't erally know. I'd bet it could be a decent race. I know one thign, whenm I was at RA a few weeks ago, there were 2 STi's tehre, one bone stock, getting pulled by E36 M3's, and one was modded, but my god was that guy eating it up!

straight line i have no doubt STI will rape DinanM3 bmw... but we know a girl who track races an STI how about we put her up against DinanM3 and your 5 series... put your money where your mouth is? whose down?

[kendogg]

straight line i have no doubt STI will rape DinanM3 bmw... but we know a girl who track races an STI how about we put her up against DinanM3 and your 5 series... put your money where your mouth is? whose down?

Your wrong. Stock to stock, an E36 M3 'usually' will pull on a stock STi, not froma dig, liek I said, but once you get up tehre, all the way to the 155 mpgh limiter on the M3. Do you not read paul?

And hell no I'm not putting my E30 series, (I sold the 5 series forever ago) against an STi, what, do you think I'm stupid? I'm not TAHT dumb, man, I will totally admit I'll get raped in every single category. Myc ar's 20 years old. :shrugs:

[1SICKLEX]

Your wrong. Stock to stock, an E36 M3 'usually' will pull on a stock STi, not froma dig, liek I said, but once you get up tehre, all the way to the 155 mpgh limiter on the M3. Do you not read paul?

And hell no I'm not putting my E30 series, (I sold the 5 series forever ago) against an STi, what, do you think I'm stupid? I'm not TAHT dumb, man, I will totally admit I'll get raped in every single category. Myc ar's 20 years old. :shrugs:

There is no way in hell a stock E36 is pulling on a Sti or much anything. We are talking 240hp to THE CRANK. 0-60 in high 5s-low 6s and low to mid 14 second 1/4 mile times. A stock Sti will rape that.

E36 M3 has 240hp to the crank.....it is not a drag car, it is an overall dynamics car, nimble chassis, great handling.

[kendogg]

There is no way in hell a stock E36 is pulling on a Sti or much anything. We are talking 240hp to THE CRANK. 0-60 in high 5s-low 6s and low to mid 14 second 1/4 mile times. A stock Sti will rape that.

E36 M3 has 240hp to the crank.....it is not a drag car, it is an overall dynamics car, nimble chassis, great handling.

But the M3 pulls ahrdest in 4th gear. I've driven it. Many times. I've beat bone stock 2g DSM's to about 100 a few times with DinanM3atl's car. gotta keep in mind, the M3 has a close-ratio 5 speed, with a 5th gear 1:1, and it only geared for I beleive 155-160, so the gearing is spot-on for that car. The STi, on the other hand, has 2 OD gears, adn is fairly well known to be a pig over 100 in stock form. Do a lil research,. what I'm, saying is actually true. I used to work at a subaru dealership, I've seen pretty much everythign under the sun done to the STi.

[1SICKLEX]

But the M3 pulls ahrdest in 4th gear. I've driven it. Many times. I've beat bone stock 2g DSM's to about 100 a few times with DinanM3atl's car. gotta keep in mind, the M3 has a close-ratio 5 speed, with a 5th gear 1:1, and it only geared for I beleive 155-160, so the gearing is spot-on for that car. The STi, on the other hand, has 2 OD gears, adn is fairly well known to be a pig over 100 in stock form. Do a lil research,. what I'm, saying is actually true. I used to work at a subaru dealership, I've seen pretty much everythign under the sun done to the STi.

I will check into the Subie OD gears, thanks for the heads up...I know Acura Tls and CLs also have 2 OD gears and they hit a wall over 100mph.....

Thanks

[Jaimecbr900]

You guys talk about straihgt-line racing, why not run a stock STi on the highway vs. a stock M3? Yeah, anybdoyu willa dmit that the STi will rape it off the line, but it's AWD< so be hoenst, it does have ana dvantage tehre. The gearing sucks for highway sue, thoguh, double overdrives, vs. the close ratio 5 speed the M3 uses, and yes, STOCK E36 M3's have slightly pulled stock STi's to the 155 mph limiter on the M3. Modded, thast a whole nother story. The STi becomes alot more of a monster with basic turbo mods.

That is the first post that remotely resembles a coherent statement.

You're absolutely correct. This is exactly what several people have tried to say several different times. Comparing an M3 to a G35 is NOT a fair comparison. Comparing an STI vs an M3 from a DIG is also not a fair comparison. ANY car can and sometimes is better than ANY other car given the right mix of circumstances. But to say that my BMW's shit don't stink merely because it's a BMW is stupid because shit is shit. It stinks regardless.

Your buddy wants to race at a track, fine. Road Atlanta is a track, but so is Commerce and SDR. Why is one track a track and the other not in his book??? Because he'd get his ass handed to him in one and not the other. That doesn't make his car the ultimate anything, except in one place. That's been the point all along.

I'd put my money on Matt's SE-R, or Val's Evo, or Matt's WRX, or Patrycja's Supra, or Turbo Dave's 240, or Charles' Evo, or a ton of other people's cars against MR. Dinan and his M3 in a host of races. Problem is your buddy only wants to race in the race HE thinks HE has the advantage in ONLY. Don't be a pussy if you wanna run your mouth.

The saying goes, "Run what you brung and hope you brung enough!". Not, "Run what I got in my backyard ONLY to make sure I don't get beat, so I can keep the fairy tale of the ultimate driving machine alive..."