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    Quote Originally Posted by TransAxle
    Yep i agree that will not make that big of a change. I mean before hand... you had to be in fear for your life, and be literally backed into a corner before you could protect yourself.
    No.

    Now if someone walks up and points a gun at you if you have one concealed you can just pull yours and hope that you pull the first shot off.
    You could do that with the old law...

    i think its a good thing....will give people with Self Defnce cases more le-way. Instead of them having to agrue self-defence until there blue in the face...all they will need know is a slight bit of eveidence!
    Still the same as what it once was...
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    How am i wrong on the first point....Self Defence before was A. In fear for your life. B. Had no place to run (backed into a corner). C. Had no chance left it was either you or them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransAxle
    How am i wrong on the first point....Self Defence before was A. In fear for your life. B. Had no place to run (backed into a corner). C. Had no chance left it was either you or them!
    You are wrong on all aspects in certain situations.
    - Fear of life isn't needed, just great bodily harm.
    - You do not need to retreat in certain areas
    - You are allowed to defend yourself and property...

    The old law said that you DO NOT have the duty to retreat if you were in your house, place of business, or vehicle, but were supposed to if in other public places.

    Now, you do not have the duty to retreat in those public places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruiner
    You are wrong on all aspects in certain situations.
    - Fear of life isn't needed, just great bodily harm.
    - You do not need to retreat in certain areas
    - You are allowed to defend yourself and property...

    The old law said that you DO NOT have the duty to retreat if you were in your house, place of business, or vehicle, but were supposed to if in other public places.

    Now, you do not have the duty to retreat in those public places.
    Your saying i am completely wrong? vVVVV

    Force likely to cause death or great bodily harm is justified in self-defense only if a person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm.

    Thats why most people say in fear for there life...becuase great bodily harm to me comes down to near death.

    Also we are not talking about homes nad such....everyone knows that. I am talking on the street.

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