The Expierience with Mahdavi Motorsports

[Jaimecbr900]

I wouldn't exactly give all the credit... or much, if any to IA... members from all sorts of other forums claim to have been calling them all day, emailing them all day, etc. in support of Mr. Knighten out of their own free will. I'm sure this may given MM a heads-up that they're not dealing with just a single soul anymore, but rather a mob now.

I hope for the best for your friend as I can somewhat understand what he may be going through.

You are way off base.

There were no crank calls or BS emails. If there were, they went somewhere else or unanswered.

The decision came after a simple adult conversation and the review of all bills and payments. The reason I know is because I was standing right there when it happened. Not heresay, I was right there.

The internet drama BS had ZERO to do with resolution at all. It did however really piss some people off to see how many blind followers there are on the net. A lot of people had plenty to say without even bothering to think logically. Look at how many people thought that the verbage of "money tree" referred to Arash bad mouthing the customer when in reality it was the finance company where the customer got some of the money to do the deal in the first place. Makes some people look pretty stupid for assuming, doesn't it?

People were also quick to jump on a bandwagon and double guess the invoice, when in reality some of the prices on the invoice INCLUDED several items that weren't broken out individually. For example, one of the items listed simply said R&R the motor.....but that INCLUDED the machine work, in/out of the original motor (which BTW looked like it been shot at with a canon), installation of all the new rods, pistons, etc. So it wasn't $2000 for a mere motor as some were trying to say. BTW, what someone failed to conviniently mention was the fact that the shop took out a nasty blown 1st gen motor and was replacing it with a BUILT 2nd gen motor. What that means is that it's not just a simple little motor swap and go. The original turbo manifold was CRACKED damn near in half. They didn't SELL him that manifold, they were trying to fix the issue by getting him a new one. Funny how that tidbit got left out. People took off with it and assumed that the CRACKED manifold was part of the deal....it wasn't. It was told to the customer what the problem was. Then it was twisted around like THEY somehow BROKE the manifold during the process, which is BS. See how things get twisted around for no reason.

The shop agreed to give the guy the parts he had almost paid for, assemble the motor and trans so he can finish the swap himself wherever he'd like, and store it all as long as he pays the final payment for what the shop has RECEIPTS for. The customer agreed, said that's great, and now that's what's being done.

Now, if the story was soooo true about giving $10k upfront and what not......WHY would anyone with half a brain PAY another amount of money NOW?????? If HE is sooooo right about it all, wouldn't he just sue the shit out of the shop and call it a day? Think about that for a minute and use logic.

So the story is that I just got "ripped off" by X shop.....I now go BACK to the same shop to get "my" stuff back, yet AGREE voluntarily to PAY some MORE money that I DON'T owe to get "my" stuff back........How's that make any sense at all? Arash and Sam are some mafia MF's to have that kind of power over their customers......

[Seymour222]

You are way off base.

There were no crank calls or BS emails. If there were, they went somewhere else or unanswered.

The decision came after a simple adult conversation and the review of all bills and payments. The reason I know is because I was standing right there when it happened. Not heresay, I was right there.

The internet drama BS had ZERO to do with resolution at all. It did however really piss some people off to see how many blind followers there are on the net. A lot of people had plenty to say without even bothering to think logically. Look at how many people thought that the verbage of "money tree" referred to Arash bad mouthing the customer when in reality it was the finance company where the customer got some of the money to do the deal in the first place. Makes some people look pretty stupid for assuming, doesn't it?

People were also quick to jump on a bandwagon and double guess the invoice, when in reality some of the prices on the invoice INCLUDED several items that weren't broken out individually. For example, one of the items listed simply said R&R the motor.....but that INCLUDED the machine work, in/out of the original motor (which BTW looked like it been shot at with a canon), installation of all the new rods, pistons, etc. So it wasn't $2000 for a mere motor as some were trying to say. BTW, what someone failed to conviniently mention was the fact that the shop took out a nasty blown 1st gen motor and was replacing it with a BUILT 2nd gen motor. What that means is that it's not just a simple little motor swap and go. The original turbo manifold was CRACKED damn near in half. They didn't SELL him that manifold, they were trying to fix the issue by getting him a new one. Funny how that tidbit got left out. People took off with it and assumed that the CRACKED manifold was part of the deal....it wasn't. It was told to the customer what the problem was. Then it was twisted around like THEY somehow BROKE the manifold during the process, which is BS. See how things get twisted around for no reason.

The shop agreed to give the guy the parts he had almost paid for, assemble the motor and trans so he can finish the swap himself wherever he'd like, and store it all as long as he pays the final payment for what the shop has RECEIPTS for. The customer agreed, said that's great, and now that's what's being done.

Now, if the story was soooo true about giving $10k upfront and what not......WHY would anyone with half a brain PAY another amount of money NOW?????? If HE is sooooo right about it all, wouldn't he just sue the shit out of the shop and call it a day? Think about that for a minute and use logic.

So the story is that I just got "ripped off" by X shop.....I now go BACK to the same shop to get "my" stuff back, yet AGREE voluntarily to PAY some MORE money that I DON'T owe to get "my" stuff back........How's that make any sense at all? Arash and Sam are some mafia MF's to have that kind of power over their customers......

Okay. This WAS resolved via an adult conversation. You are correct by making that statement. However, a question that arises when I hear that statement, that question is: Would it have been possible for a conversation to take place without expressing the opinion over the internet? I do not believe so. When the customer was asked to sign an agreement saying that all of the parts are the property of Mahdavi, including the original parts attached to the car in the first place, and made to agree, from Arash "never to contact or step foot on these premises again". How would this be possible? Perhaps a majority of this was caused because of a lack of communication from Arash to Sam, and we would all hope this would be the case, which I believe, myself, would be the reason. Mr. Mahdavi was very helpful and apologetic, which is appreciated and respected. Mr. Sam expressed his anger towards his brother and the situations that he had to deal with because of the previous actions. In my personal opinion, I do not believe this situation would have made to the stages of resolution that it is in now. I believe this for one reason, Mr. Sam Mahdavi stated that all of his calls are screened, and for a good reason. Sam is constantly handling the garage and needs his attention to be focused on just that, the garage. It makes sense. If he is the only one who is truly capable of resolving this issue, how would it be possible for Mr. Knighten to contact Mr. Sam Mahdavi without calling or visiting the premises. However this is currently off point. I cordially disagree Jamie, but I believe the internet action played a major role in the resolution of this matter.The end result is: Mahdavi contacted Sam Knighten in order to resolve the issue, reguardless of the reasoning behind it. This IS what a reputable shop would do, and I commend that. Thank you Mr. Sam Mahdavi for taking the time to analyze the issues at hand.

[Jaimecbr900]

Okay. This WAS resolved via an adult conversation. You are correct by making that statement. However, a question that arises when I hear that statement, that question is: Would it have been possible for a conversation to take place without expressing the opinion over the internet? I do not believe so. When the customer was asked to sign an agreement saying that all of the parts are the property of Mahdavi, including the original parts attached to the car in the first place, and made to agree, from Arash "never to contact or step foot on these premises again". How would this be possible? Perhaps a majority of this was caused because of a lack of communication from Arash to Sam, and we would all hope this would be the case, which I believe, myself, would be the reason. Mr. Mahdavi was very helpful and apologetic, which is appreciated and respected. Mr. Sam expressed his anger towards his brother and the situations that he had to deal with because of the previous actions. In my personal opinion, I do not believe this situation would have made to the stages of resolution that it is in now. I believe this for one reason, Mr. Sam Mahdavi stated that all of his calls are screened, and for a good reason. Sam is constantly handling the garage and needs his attention to be focused on just that, the garage. It makes sense. If he is the only one who is truly capable of resolving this issue, how would it be possible for Mr. Knighten to contact Mr. Sam Mahdavi without calling or visiting the premises. However this is currently off point. I cordially disagree Jamie, but I believe the internet action played a major role in the resolution of this matter.The end result is: Mahdavi contacted Sam Knighten in order to resolve the issue, reguardless of the reasoning behind it. This IS what a reputable shop would do, and I commend that. Thank you Mr. Sam Mahdavi for taking the time to analyze the issues at hand.

To be perfectly honest, YOU were the one that instead of picking up the phone and being your "friend's" mouthpiece IRL, you decided to be his mouthpiece on the net.

You do have something finally right, and that is exactly what you've stated above. That's how it went down and that's how it got resolved. But don't flatter yourself too much, this internet drama BS did nothing more than stir the pot. What really got the ball rolling towards a resolution was face-to-face discussions about the situation and NOT ONE person from YOUR side of the equation was there when that happened. So again, don't flatter yourself into thinking that your internet blog did anything towards resolving this.

What it did do is show some people's true character when it comes to mob mentality. Quite a few people jumped on the bandwagon blindly and now look foolish for doing so.

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You are way off base.

There were no crank calls or BS emails. If there were, they went somewhere else or unanswered.

The decision came after a simple adult conversation and the review of all bills and payments. The reason I know is because I was standing right there when it happened. Not heresay, I was right there.

The internet drama BS had ZERO to do with resolution at all. It did however really piss some people off to see how many blind followers there are on the net. A lot of people had plenty to say without even bothering to think logically. Look at how many people thought that the verbage of "money tree" referred to Arash bad mouthing the customer when in reality it was the finance company where the customer got some of the money to do the deal in the first place. Makes some people look pretty stupid for assuming, doesn't it?

People were also quick to jump on a bandwagon and double guess the invoice, when in reality some of the prices on the invoice INCLUDED several items that weren't broken out individually. For example, one of the items listed simply said R&R the motor.....but that INCLUDED the machine work, in/out of the original motor (which BTW looked like it been shot at with a canon), installation of all the new rods, pistons, etc. So it wasn't $2000 for a mere motor as some were trying to say. BTW, what someone failed to conviniently mention was the fact that the shop took out a nasty blown 1st gen motor and was replacing it with a BUILT 2nd gen motor. What that means is that it's not just a simple little motor swap and go. The original turbo manifold was CRACKED damn near in half. They didn't SELL him that manifold, they were trying to fix the issue by getting him a new one. Funny how that tidbit got left out. People took off with it and assumed that the CRACKED manifold was part of the deal....it wasn't. It was told to the customer what the problem was. Then it was twisted around like THEY somehow BROKE the manifold during the process, which is BS. See how things get twisted around for no reason.

The shop agreed to give the guy the parts he had almost paid for, assemble the motor and trans so he can finish the swap himself wherever he'd like, and store it all as long as he pays the final payment for what the shop has RECEIPTS for. The customer agreed, said that's great, and now that's what's being done.

Now, if the story was soooo true about giving $10k upfront and what not......WHY would anyone with half a brain PAY another amount of money NOW?????? If HE is sooooo right about it all, wouldn't he just sue the shit out of the shop and call it a day? Think about that for a minute and use logic.

So the story is that I just got "ripped off" by X shop.....I now go BACK to the same shop to get "my" stuff back, yet AGREE voluntarily to PAY some MORE money that I DON'T owe to get "my" stuff back........How's that make any sense at all? Arash and Sam are some mafia MF's to have that kind of power over their customers......

So since you were right there during the "adult conversation and review of previous bills/paperwork" have you now become the official spokesperson for MM? I am by no means trying to start any BS, I just find it very strange that owners or managment from said shop would rather have another customer come on and defend them rather than do it them self. I say this only because I am in the process of looking to possibly have some work done on a project of mine and would like to see how they (MM) handle themslves in a situation like this. Trying to see a true sense of character here.

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So since you were right there during the "adult conversation and review of previous bills/paperwork" have you now become the official spokesperson for MM? I am by no means trying to start any BS, I just find it very strange that owners or managment from said shop would rather have another customer come on and defend them rather than do it them self. I say this only because I am in the process of looking to possibly have some work done on a project of mine and would like to see how they (MM) handle themslves in a situation like this. Trying to see a true sense of character here.

probably due to the fact that they have a business to run and not get involved on a local forums bullshit... i would say that this issue has been resolved between the customer and MM so move on bandwagoneers and get on the next thread you want to jump on and trash.

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probably due to the fact that they have a business to run and not get involved on a local forums bullshit... i would say that this issue has been resolved between the customer and MM so move on bandwagoneers and get on the next thread you want to jump on and trash.

All the more reason to defend their shop IMO. It's not like this is the first time something like this has come up about that shop. Contrary to what you may want to think, I am not bashing them at all. I have simply stated that there is a lack of explanation to come from MM. Remember that word of mouth can be you best or worst advertising.

[Jaimecbr900]

So since you were right there during the "adult conversation and review of previous bills/paperwork" have you now become the official spokesperson for MM? I am by no means trying to start any BS, I just find it very strange that owners or managment from said shop would rather have another customer come on and defend them rather than do it them self. I say this only because I am in the process of looking to possibly have some work done on a project of mine and would like to see how they (MM) handle themslves in a situation like this. Trying to see a true sense of character here.

I'm not anything official to MM except they are my friends. If they had done something wrong, I'd let them fight their own battles. When I went up there and asked face-to-face, I got the skinny. That's what I'm reporting back to everyone that was so quick to bash them when if they'd taken more than 2 secs to think about things logically they wouldn't have jumped on the haters bandwagon.

Notice how many people are now saying, "...It just didn't make any sense..." yet they still hated on the shop BEFORE waiting to see what the other side was. Notice how even I didn't say a damn thing until I talked directly to them???? Even though MY name was being dragged thru the mud too for no reason. I hadn't even made a single post and someone already was trash talking about me. I went and found out the skinny on it and THEN opened my big mouth.

They didn't reply at all at the request of cooler heads that were there during the conversation that straightened everything out. Sam had plenty of things he could be working on besides taking 2 hours to post and repost about this.

Remember one thing: At one point or another EVERY SINGLE shop in ATLANTA has had a hater come on the net and trash them. Does the owner of the shop ALWAYS come on here to air their side.....nope. Most of the time it's better that way. When people insult the business that you toil over to feed your family, it gets personal quick. So it's better that they let things cool down before making an irrational heated reply when people were bashing their shop indiscriminantly. That would've only added fuel to the fire.

As you can see now, there are a few of us coming out in the shop's defense. If you want to know about the "character" of MM, ask one of us and not the bandwagon haters on the net.

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I'm not anything official to MM except they are my friends. If they had done something wrong, I'd let them fight their own battles. When I went up there and asked face-to-face, I got the skinny. That's what I'm reporting back to everyone that was so quick to bash them when if they'd taken more than 2 secs to think about things logically they wouldn't have jumped on the haters bandwagon.

Notice how many people are now saying, "...It just didn't make any sense..." yet they still hated on the shop BEFORE waiting to see what the other side was. Notice how even I didn't say a damn thing until I talked directly to them???? Even though MY name was being dragged thru the mud too for no reason. I hadn't even made a single post and someone already was trash talking about me. I went and found out the skinny on it and THEN opened my big mouth.

They didn't reply at all at the request of cooler heads that were there during the conversation that straightened everything out. Sam had plenty of things he could be working on besides taking 2 hours to post and repost about this.

Remember one thing: At one point or another EVERY SINGLE shop in ATLANTA has had a hater come on the net and trash them. Does the owner of the shop ALWAYS come on here to air their side.....nope. Most of the time it's better that way. When people insult the business that you toil over to feed your family, it gets personal quick. So it's better that they let things cool down before making an irrational heated reply when people were bashing their shop indiscriminantly. That would've only added fuel to the fire.

As you can see now, there are a few of us coming out in the shop's defense. If you want to know about the "character" of MM, ask one of us and not the bandwagon haters on the net.

I hear what your saying to an extent. But just as you have accused people of taking sides, you yourself went and got one side of the story. Regardless of what was said over the phone or email or pm's the "facts" remain that this kid has written documentation of them trying to take advantage of him. There is in no way shape fashion or form any way possible for that to be argued. The reasons seem to be that since this has come to light in a public way, "now" they (MM) want to fix the problem. Just seems to be way too sketchy from a consumers standpoint.