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    Really though, why don't we invest more in alternative fuels? Forget full electrics.

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    As I've said for years. Diesel is the only "alternative" fuel we need. It is, and will be the fuel of the future.


    Take a barrel of oil... The early stages of cracking produces diesel, only reason diesel is so high is because of the percentage of a barrel that gets used for gas vs diesel.

    Plus diesel is just bad-ass.

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    I agree. Diesel is popular everywhere but here. We're starting to catch on though. I'm totally buying a new Skyactiv diesel.

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    Diesel is where it's at. Unless it's E85... then that's the bee's knees, as well.
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    funny how Obama has no control over anything...... but somehow everything was Bush's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Really though, why don't we invest more in alternative fuels? Forget full electrics.
    i wasnt kidding with my first post...... Diesel is the future.... seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    i wasnt kidding with my first post...... Diesel is the future.... seriously.
    Actually id think with the cost being almost double that of regular fuel to refine diesel I think it will stay where its at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Actually id think with the cost being almost double that of regular fuel to refine diesel I think it will stay where its at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    bio?
    Bio maybe some how but regular just to much investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    Diesel is where it's at. Unless it's E85... then that's the bee's knees, as well.
    E85 is horrible from the supplier side of the equation. Phase Separation is a bitch. Plus Ethanol is a extremely good corrosive. Oh, what the hell am I complaining about... Keeps me busy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    i wasnt kidding with my first post...... Diesel is the future.... seriously.
    I agree with you. It's been something I've been saying for years. If I cared I'm sure I could pull up old posts to prove it. Lucky for me, I don't give a damn what most people think.

    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Actually id think with the cost being almost double that of regular fuel to refine diesel I think it will stay where its at.
    Uhhhh... I'll take "I don't understand what you're saying" for $500 Alex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    bio?
    Why have E85 when we can have a worse alternative?

    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Bio maybe some how but regular just to much investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    The news said that it won't happen and Obama also said so. So the only way it will happen is if Obama is un-presidantized. Which won't happen. Ever.

    Ever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Uhhhh... I'll take "I don't understand what you're saying" for $500 Alex.
    Have you seen the cost of Refining a barrel of oil to be used a Diesel fuel ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Have you seen the cost of Refining a barrel of oil to be used a Diesel fuel ?
    I was under the impression that diesel was a byproduct of making gasoline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I was under the impression that diesel was a byproduct of making gasoline?
    Its from crude oil that is refined over and over to get a agent then turned into Diesel. Regular fuel just gets refined into a crude source of fuel to burn "simplest form 87 Unleaded"

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    Quote Originally Posted by -EnVus- View Post
    Its from crude oil that is refined over and over to get a agent then turned into Diesel. Regular fuel just gets refined into a crude source of fuel to burn "simplest form 87 Unleaded"

    yeah...... but theyre making gasoline when they do it, then diesel with what's left.

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    Everyone has been saying diesel is the future. Almost every car every where else is offered in a diesel but here most people imagine diesel to be big jacked up trucks blowing out black smoke.


    The only downside to diesels is the noise. My mom hates her TDI because "it's noisy." Personally I don't mind it's only noisy at idle but I've found many people don't like it.

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    Petrol is so high here atm this was even in our news today and i pay more as i have to use 97 upwards octane super unleaded fuel.

    Fuel prices 'head for highest level ever' - Yahoo! Finance UK

    As for diesel most cars on the road here are diesel and it has been that way for years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarimports View Post
    Petrol is so high here atm this was even in our news today and i pay more as i have to use 97 upwards octane super unleaded fuel.

    Fuel prices 'head for highest level ever' - Yahoo! Finance UK

    As for diesel most cars on the road here are diesel and it has been that way for years now.
    Sweet! I was hoping you'd come in here. I have a few questions, I wanna understand the situation over there a little bit better...

    Is the price of petrol charged per liter or per gallon? What is the price for unleaded?

    What would you say is the average distance driven to work over there? For example, I drive about 80km a day for work, 5 days a week. I want to say the average is about 40km a day here per person per day

    How efficient is public transit in the UK, and how many people would you think use it? The public transportation system in the US is almost unusable with the exception of New York City and San Fransisco.

    I understand very few people over there drive trucks and SUVs as commuter vehicles (back and fourth to work, friends house, movies/dinner, etc.) is this true? I think Americans for the large part have adopted this mentality that its simply unsafe (or even less masculine) to drive anything smaller than a Lincoln Navigator. As a result, you see a lot of SUVs and full size trucks being driven like daily drivers

    Do you have a government mandated minimum wage any employer has to pay his employees?

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    They couldn't impeach Bill what makes you think that this is going to work?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    funny how Obama has no control over anything...... but somehow everything was Bush's fault.
    It is
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    Quote Originally Posted by C230K View Post
    They couldn't impeach Bill what makes you think that this is going to work?
    Don't give any credence to that link. He's not getting impeached at all.

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    That's why I want to do a bi-fuel Propane/Gasoline conversion on my Si.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C230K View Post
    They couldn't impeach Bill what makes you think that this is going to work?
    Bill fucked a secretary, Obama fucked all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Don't give any credence to that link. He's not getting impeached at all.
    He has committed impeachable offenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    The only downside to diesels is the noise. My mom hates her TDI because "it's noisy." Personally I don't mind it's only noisy at idle but I've found many people don't like it.
    They have made great strides in Diesel tech. My old powerstroke is noisy as hell, and with the BullyDog exhaust it's louder than the school bus that picks my kids up every morning. But the newer cars/trucks are whisper quiet.

    Quote Originally Posted by C230K View Post
    They couldn't impeach Bill what makes you think that this is going to work?
    Uh... Bill Clinton was impeached.

    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Don't give any credence to that link. He's not getting impeached at all.
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead852 View Post
    That's why I want to do a bi-fuel Propane/Gasoline conversion on my Si.
    That sounds bad-ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalhead852 View Post
    That's why I want to do a bi-fuel Propane/Gasoline conversion on my Si.
    I driven many cars powered by propane.., slow ass balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio View Post
    I driven many cars powered by propane.., slow ass balls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    He has committed impeachable offenses.
    No. No he hasn't. Or he would be impeached already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Really though, why don't we invest more in alternative fuels? Forget full electrics.

    CNG is what I am looking at. Still has the performance of a slightly underpowered 4cy, but it costs the equivalent of about $1.00/gal to fill up at current NG prices.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    He has committed impeachable offenses.
    Like what? Being an asshole and a panderer is not impeachable. Fast and Furious has been sealed so nothing to use there. Benghazi isnt going anywhere.

    Hes an idiot, has absolutely zero leadership skills, completely inflexible politically, and hes petty when he doesnt get his way, but he hasnt done anything impeachable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio View Post
    I driven many cars powered by propane.., slow ass balls.
    Try reading. The term bi-fuel should stand out to you. Also I've done a handful of propane conversions that make equal to or better power than when in gasoline mode. The vehicles you probably drive were vaporizer systems that fumigate the intake tract or IM. LPI vehicles work off the same port injection principals as current SEFI systems. Liquid propane has an expansion rate of 270X when introduced to the atmosphere. This cools the intake charge dramatically. Couple that with an increased Octane rating of 104 and how clean it burns due to the large concentration of Hydrogen in the molecule and you have an excellent fuel source.


    CNG is really nice as well. Like stated above. If you have the money to invest in a Type 4 tank I'd consider it a huge plus. The weight savings are great. I prefer propane for the cold start qualities and my ability to get it much cheaper than current market value. There are trade offs between the two when it comes to safety. However both are still safer than gasoline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    CNG is what I am looking at. Still has the performance of a slightly underpowered 4cy, but it costs the equivalent of about $1.00/gal to fill up at current NG prices.




    Like what? Being an asshole and a panderer is not impeachable. Fast and Furious has been sealed so nothing to use there. Benghazi isnt going anywhere.

    Hes an idiot, has absolutely zero leadership skills, completely inflexible politically, and hes petty when he doesnt get his way, but he hasnt done anything impeachable.
    violating the constitution isnt impeachable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    violating the constitution isnt impeachable?
    Yes violating the constitution is very impeachable.

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    The new fuel of the future is the one made from green algae. Trey from Visible notionz back in the day, runs a business that creates the whole system and sells them all across the world. Stuff is amazing and only uses sunlight to keep a constant supply of renewable fuel. THATS the fuel of the future. Australians are buying these things like crazy. Its like 4 or 5 cargo containers and you have a mini refinery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Yes violating the constitution is very impeachable.
    Ok, so impeach Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3UC3S View Post
    The new fuel of the future is the one made from green algae. Trey from Visible notionz back in the day, runs a business that creates the whole system and sells them all across the world. Stuff is amazing and only uses sunlight to keep a constant supply of renewable fuel. THATS the fuel of the future. Australians are buying these things like crazy. Its like 4 or 5 cargo containers and you have a mini refinery.
    The government would probably treat that the same as moonshine.

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    LOL They see it as money out of their pockets because someone was smarter than them to figure out a way to make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3UC3S View Post
    The new fuel of the future is the one made from green algae. Trey from Visible notionz back in the day, runs a business that creates the whole system and sells them all across the world. Stuff is amazing and only uses sunlight to keep a constant supply of renewable fuel. THATS the fuel of the future. Australians are buying these things like crazy. Its like 4 or 5 cargo containers and you have a mini refinery.
    From what I have seen that is not feasible on a large scale.

    So everyone is going to have a "mini-refinery" in there backyard?

    Impractical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    The government would probably treat that the same as moonshine.
    Agreed. We already poison straight Ethanol to keep it off the black-market.




    What? You guys didn't know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3UC3S View Post
    LOL They see it as money out of their pockets because someone was smarter than them to figure out a way to make money.
    yep, pretty much if its something you can supply for yourself.... or potentially make a profit off of... the government hates it.

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