Does anybody else think Obama...

[Elbow]

It depends on the situation and location. Who is able to fight back in an elementary school room? The tool doesn't make a difference there, as first graders can't fight an adult. If someone wants to do evil, they will find a way. We need to address the source, whixh is the person commiting the crime. Removing the tools from law-abiding citizens will not prevent these situations - and Obama stated it during his SOTU address.

TEACHERS can stop a knife slinging crazy man though, with a gun, it may be harder. There's absolutely no debate that a gun is the easiest weapon to obtain that can cause the most damage. Does that mean ban them? No, so Sinfix don't get all pissy with this comment, I'm just saying though, guns make it easy to kill quickly in numbers.

A guy with a knife snuck in my mom's school when she was teaching, he was tackled by a few teachers, they got the knife, and held him down while the police arrived. If he had a gun, I think it's safe to assume the outcome would have been much different. Say what you want about security measures or whatever, but a gun vs a knife the gun is the deadlier weapon.

"You brought a knife to a gun fight."

You cant have freedom without the freedom to do bad things. Freedom is dangerous...... we knew that when we founded this country.


You could kill a building full of people with supplies from home depot. If you take one tool away, the next tool is picked up. You will never prevent evil people from doing evil things by banning inanimate objects. In this case..... the government isnt even seeking to ban the criminals "tool" of choice. Assault rifles are RARELY used in crimes..... AR is just an agreeable mascot used to manipulate the masses.

You ALWAYS bring up assault rifles. lol

I'm saying a GUN, I pistol, shotgun, rifle who cares, is a better tool to kill a mass number than a hammer, knife, brick, whatever. Let me guess "a bomb would be better" guns are easy to obtain, cheap, and a moron can handle one.

Like I said, I'm not saying ban guns, I'm just saying.

[Sinfix_15]

TEACHERS can stop a knife slinging crazy man though, with a gun, it may be harder. There's absolutely no debate that a gun is the easiest weapon to obtain that can cause the most damage. Does that mean ban them? No, so Sinfix don't get all pissy with this comment, I'm just saying though, guns make it easy to kill quickly in numbers.

A guy with a knife snuck in my mom's school when she was teaching, he was tackled by a few teachers, they got the knife, and held him down while the police arrived. If he had a gun, I think it's safe to assume the outcome would have been much different. Say what you want about security measures or whatever, but a gun vs a knife the gun is the deadlier weapon.

"You brought a knife to a gun fight."



You ALWAYS bring up assault rifles. lol

I'm saying a GUN, I pistol, shotgun, rifle who cares, is a better tool to kill a mass number than a hammer, knife, brick, whatever. Let me guess "a bomb would be better" guns are easy to obtain, cheap, and a moron can handle one.

Like I said, I'm not saying ban guns, I'm just saying.

Assault rifles are a part of our culture. The belief that the 2nd amendment is partially to protect us from tyranny is a part of our culture. These are ideas that politicians have spent decades asking 18 year old men to die for and now they ask you to sit idle while they attempt to remove them.

Freedom is dangerous....... founding fathers recognized that day one. If they could be awakened and asked about their intentions they wouldnt say "omg we didnt realize freedom was so dangerous, take it away" they would probably say "yeah, pretty much what we expected, who is this moron you elected president?"

[Elbow]

Assault rifles are a part of our culture. The belief that the 2nd amendment is partially to protect us from tyranny is a part of our culture. These are ideas that politicians have spent decades asking 18 year old men to die for and now they ask you to sit idle while they attempt to remove them.

Freedom is dangerous....... founding fathers recognized that day one. If they could be awakened and asked about their intentions they wouldnt say "omg we didnt realize freedom was so dangerous, take it away" they would probably say "yeah, pretty much what we expected, who is this moron you elected president?"

How does this response relate to mine? lol

[Sinfix_15]

How does this response relate to mine? lol

You keep saying "they couldnt have done that with a knife" or "you can kill 100 people with a knife".....

Freedom is dangerous......................................... ............................... you cant remove danger without removing freedom. How can you not relate my response???????????

You also said " you keep bring up _______" that's because it's a part of our culture. Politicians have spent decades asking people to die for the things i "keep bringing up". Theyve spent years telling you these things were worth fighting for.... and now they tell you to stop fighting for them.

[Elbow]

You keep saying "they couldnt have done that with a knife" or "you can kill 100 people with a knife".....

Freedom is dangerous......................................... ............................... you cant remove danger without removing freedom. How can you not relate my response???????????

You also said " you keep bring up _______" that's because it's a part of our culture. Politicians have spent decades asking people to die for the things i "keep bringing up". Theyve spent years telling you these things were worth fighting for.... and now they tell you to stop fighting for them.

No, I said it would be hard to kill 100 people with a knife.

Yes, freedom is dangerous. I never said you could prevent danger, well you could, but we'd all be locked up.

I haven't mentioned assault rifles in this knife debate. The debate I said was that a gun can easily kill a larger number faster and more efficiently than a knife.

[Sinfix_15]

No, I said it would be hard to kill 100 people with a knife.

Yes, freedom is dangerous. I never said you could prevent danger, well you could, but we'd all be locked up.

I haven't mentioned assault rifles in this knife debate. The debate I said was that a gun can easily kill a larger number faster and more efficiently than a knife.

So what do you propose?

[David88vert]

No, I said it would be hard to kill 100 people with a knife.

Yes, freedom is dangerous. I never said you could prevent danger, well you could, but we'd all be locked up.

I haven't mentioned assault rifles in this knife debate. The debate I said was that a gun can easily kill a larger number faster and more efficiently than a knife.

It's not exactly easy to kill 100 people with a gun either. You are trying to make it sound like it is just simple and anyone can easily do it, but if you look at reality, none of these people that tried to do it managed to succeed.

Is it easier with a knife or gun? Why does that question matter at all? The question should be, how do we stop people from wanting to kill in the first place.

[Elbow]

So what do you propose?

Plan for the worst, hope for the best, and get sick people off the streets.

Chinese teachers were unable to save quite a few children from knife attacks. More than at Sandy Hook. Even if you remove guns completely from society, you haven't solved the real problem. That's a fact.

I never said getting guns out would solve a problem. I have no idea how teachers couldn't take down someone with a knife though.

It's not exactly easy to kill 100 people with a gun either. You are trying to make it sound like it is just simple and anyone can easily do it, but if you look at reality, none of these people that tried to do it managed to succeed.

Is it easier with a knife or gun? Why does that question matter at all? The question should be, how do we stop people from wanting to kill in the first place.

Point is it IS easier to kill more people with a gun, that's a fact, simple as that. I'm just saying, not saying we should ban guns, but I don't see why some people don't see why people consider the gun the top of the weapon chart for killers.

Easier, faster, less hand to hand.

100 people may be a little intense yes, but if I ran into a room and wanted 5 people dead, I could probably kill those 5 people much easier with a gun than a knife.

The point I'm making? None. Simply a gun is a better tool than a knife. lol

[Echonova]

No, I said it would be hard to kill 100 people with a knife.

Yes, freedom is dangerous. I never said you could prevent danger, well you could, but we'd all be locked up.

I haven't mentioned assault rifles in this knife debate. The debate I said was that a gun can easily kill a larger number faster and more efficiently than a knife.

At the next Athens meet I am totally stabbing you in the chest with the Kershaw pocket knife I have on me every waking minute of the day.

Afterwards, you can ask yourself... "Self, do I really care about the other 99 people he's gonna kill with that knife besides me?" And you're gonna respond to yourself by saying to yourself "Self... I'm dead. Who cares? AIN'T NOBODY GOT NO TIME FOR DAT!!!!!"

If only you had a gun to stop me from the dastardly deed that I am planning. But alas... You do not. Oh well.


Call me from the afterlife and tell me how it is. I'm curious.

[Elbow]

At the next Athens meet I am totally stabbing you in the chest with the Kershaw pocket knife I have on me every waking minute of the day.

Afterwards, you can ask yourself... "Self, do I really care about the other 99 people he's gonna kill with that knife besides me?" And you're gonna respond to yourself by saying to yourself "Self... I'm dead. Who cares? AIN'T NOBODY GOT NO TIME FOR DAT!!!!!"

If only you had a gun to stop me from the dastardly deed that I am planning. But alas... You do not. Oh well.


Call me from the afterlife and tell me how it is. I'm curious.

It'd be easier if you had a gun.

[David88vert]

TEACHERS can stop a knife slinging crazy man though, with a gun, it may be harder. There's absolutely no debate that a gun is the easiest weapon to obtain that can cause the most damage. Does that mean ban them? No, so Sinfix don't get all pissy with this comment, I'm just saying though, guns make it easy to kill quickly in numbers.

A guy with a knife snuck in my mom's school when she was teaching, he was tackled by a few teachers, they got the knife, and held him down while the police arrived. If he had a gun, I think it's safe to assume the outcome would have been much different. Say what you want about security measures or whatever, but a gun vs a knife the gun is the deadlier weapon.
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Chinese teachers were unable to save quite a few children from knife attacks. More than at Sandy Hook. Even if you remove guns completely from society, you haven't solved the real problem. That's a fact.