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    So I was out with my wife and kids yesterday getting something out to eat, it was about 6:30pm. We were stopped at a light next to a gas station and a black guy went to cross the street in front of us. I didn't think anything of it but my wife stopped mid sentence, locked the doors and continued the convo where she left off.

    I said "nah hell no, you know I'm not letting you off that easy. I know you didn't just lock the doors on that black guy". She shrugged and said "he looked crazy" I laughed the entire way home after that.

    Im Hispanic an she is Black and we weren't anywhere near a rough part of town. I guess you never know, it was just funny to me.

    Anyone else been a witness, or even the victim of same race profiling?

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    if i'm in a rough neighborhood or somebody looks crazy i'm locking the door..i dont think that's race profiling, PERSAY..although unfortunately we catch that regardless if we act crazy or not.



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    Your wife locks the doors when a pedestrian is close to your car with your kids in it, and the only thing you can think of is that she's racial profiling?


    So, what if he decided to run up to the car and drag one of your kids out because he's high on something? Your child could be fucked up before you or your wife can get remotely close to doing anything.
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    1.We where in a mini van, doors open automatically in the back, it's hard to open the back doors manually. It can be done but I would have more then enough time to react.
    2. Both of my kids are properly strapped to car seats, again more then enough time to react.
    3. Like I said before we WERE NOT in a rough part of town, I understand shit happens everywhere but I was not in a heightened state of alert.
    4. They guy looked like a regular black guy, to me he didn't look "crazy", she has cousins and uncles who look rougher then this guy.

    I'm always alert of my surroundings when out and about with my kids but I didn't see this guy as a threat... at all.
    So the answer to your question "only thing you can think of is racial profiling?" Yes, that is all I think it was cause she damn sure wouldn't have locked the doors if a white guy with a suit would have tried to cross the street.

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    How was said black guy dressed? Did he in fact look crazy or creepy, regardless of his color?
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    I always lock my car doors, Just in case. Never know when a Hispanic or Black guy is around.











    And you know how those people are.

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    Im 6 feet tall, im black, 220lb, not fat, muscular-ish, not that ripped. I have heard car door locks pop a few times on my way to my car when they are in their car, lol, i just laugh at it, cause im actually Hispanic, i had to learn how to speak english when i came to this country when i was 11. But i really dont blame them, nowadays better be safe than sorry, I watch a lot of murder investigation shows and and after seeing that, i would lock my doors, and im always ready if that dont work. I wonder what they think when they see me get in my car, the probably think that it's stolen, lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Tirador View Post
    Im 6 feet tall, im black, 220lb, not fat, muscular-ish, not that ripped. I have heard car door locks pop a few times on my way to my car when they are in their car, lol, i just laugh at it, cause im actually Hispanic, i had to learn how to speak english when i came to this country when i was 11. But i really dont blame them, nowadays better be safe than sorry, I watch a lot of murder investigation shows and and after seeing that, i would lock my doors, and im always ready if that dont work. I wonder what they think when they see me get in my car, the probably think that it's stolen, lol


    I wouldnt say stolen unless you riding in a car valued over $80,000. Entonces asi ya pienso que lo robaste


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    Quote Originally Posted by C230K View Post
    I wouldnt say stolen unless you riding in a car valued over $80,000. Entonces asi ya pienso que lo robaste
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4saken View Post
    So I was out with my wife and kids yesterday getting something out to eat, it was about 6:30pm. We were stopped at a light next to a gas station and a black guy went to cross the street in front of us. I didn't think anything of it but my wife stopped mid sentence, locked the doors and continued the convo where she left off.

    I said "nah hell no, you know I'm not letting you off that easy. I know you didn't just lock the doors on that black guy". She shrugged and said "he looked crazy" I laughed the entire way home after that.

    Im Hispanic an she is Black and we weren't anywhere near a rough part of town. I guess you never know, it was just funny to me.

    Anyone else been a witness, or even the victim of same race profiling?
    I would expect my wife to lock the doors in that situation. DTA..... dont trust anybody....

    You know why your black wife doesnt trust random black guys?

    Probably because she's intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    Your wife locks the doors when a pedestrian is close to your car with your kids in it, and the only thing you can think of is that she's racial profiling?


    So, what if he decided to run up to the car and drag one of your kids out because he's high on something? Your child could be fucked up before you or your wife can get remotely close to doing anything.
    Seriously. Why would you feel the need to give some random guy the benefit of the doubt? I would be more annoyed with my wife if she DIDNT lock the doors when someone came near the car.

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    When Im at the store and I have a hispanic cashier. Knowing they speak english, they talk to me in spanish. Either way I dont care.

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    The majority of people in jail are hispanics and blacks. Truth hurts but it's there so you can't blame someone for locking their doors against a demographic with a high criminality rate.

    With that said I've never felt the urge to lock my doors when I've seen anyone, regardless of color.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich View Post
    if i'm in a rough neighborhood or somebody looks crazy i'm locking the door..i dont think that's race profiling,
    Exactly. How are you profiling racially if you are trying to protect your children from a possible problem? Hell I do this, sometimes, when I'm by myself to white or black or whatever, depending on what I see in any particular individual close to me.

    Racial profiling here this is not.
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    I can't recall a minivan made in the last two decades that the doors don't automatically lock when you pull it out of park. Did you unlock the doors hoping she would get taken?

    Franco, are you black or Hispanic? Nice car btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Tirador View Post
    Im 6 feet tall, im black, 220lb, not fat, muscular-ish, not that ripped. I have heard car door locks pop a few times on my way to my car when they are in their car, lol, i just laugh at it, cause im actually Hispanic, i had to learn how to speak english when i came to this country when i was 11. But i really dont blame them, nowadays better be safe than sorry, I watch a lot of murder investigation shows and and after seeing that, i would lock my doors, and im always ready if that dont work. I wonder what they think when they see me get in my car, the probably think that it's stolen, lol

    No we're all assuming that it's up for repo.

    And I agree don't almost all peoples doors lock now a days when it moves out of park? My CR-V door locks it self back when I unlock the door. On newer cars at least.

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    I usually lock my doors everytime a white person walks near my car. Just incase they try to open my door and lock it for me.
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    S4saken i see you live in douglasville, So do I, I just wanted to know if you were in dville when this happend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    How was said black guy dressed? Did he in fact look crazy or creepy, regardless of his color?
    He was about 5'8", 150-160lbs, his cloths weren't sagging but they where obviously to big for him, in my opinion he didn't look crazy or strung out but my wife obviously thought otherwise.
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    S4saken i see you live in douglasville, So do I, I just wanted to know if you were in dville when this happend?
    Yes, we were on highway 5 at the light across from the McDonald's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    I can't recall a minivan made in the last two decades that the doors don't automatically lock when you pull it out of park. Did you unlock the doors hoping she would get taken?
    95% chance that they were already locked which made it that much more funny to me.
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    The majority of people in jail are hispanics and blacks. Truth hurts but it's there so you can't blame someone for locking their doors against a demographic with a high criminality rate.

    With that said I've never felt the urge to lock my doors when I've seen anyone, regardless of color.
    A higher number of child molesters and sex offenders are white and most serial killers are white so I'd be more afraid of a white male around my children then a black one. The truth really doesn't bother me because I've never been in trouble for anything more then a traffic violation so your statistics don't include me. I can careless what other black and Hispanics do with there lives.

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    yea around hwy5 i wouldnt worry about locking my doors but around dtown douglas i would, But then again douglasville is going down the drain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4saken View Post
    95% chance that they were already locked which made it that much more funny to me.
    Making sure your family and children are safe at all times doesn't seem so funny to me, man. The days of now aren't nearly as forgiving as the days of old. Better safe than sorry. It doesn't matter who you're dealing with. White or black, thugged out or suited, you don't know who's out there these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by S4saken View Post
    A higher number of child molesters and sex offenders are white and most serial killers are white so I'd be more afraid of a white male around my children then a black one.
    Not trying to insult you by any means, but this isn't good thinking, dude. For one thing, your scenario doesn't impose a child sex predator/kidnapping situation. Nor does it show a serial killing. Only thing I see coming out of this in a criminal way is a robbery. Sex predators/kidnappers usually do their "work" where children are more vulnerable. Not with their parents right there. Serial killers, similarly don't just walk down the streets taking people out. But to think that just because most sex offenders and serial killers are white so you're not worried about a black man being one is naive. Like I said above, these days are rough on folks and folks of all races can be driven to a point as damning as criminal.

    My advice, take it for what it's worth as I know you don't know me, is to not laugh at your wife for wanting to be extra cautious with her family. One day, it might actually prevent a bad day for you guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodge® View Post
    Not trying to insult you by any means, but this isn't good thinking, dude. For one thing, your scenario doesn't impose a child sex predator/kidnapping situation. Nor does it show a serial killing. Only thing I see coming out of this in a criminal way is a robbery. Sex predators/kidnappers usually do their "work" where children are more vulnerable. Not with their parents right there. Serial killers, similarly don't just walk down the streets taking people out. But to think that just because most sex offenders and serial killers are white so you're not worried about a black man being one is naive. Like I said above, these days are rough on folks and folks of all races can be driven to a point as damning as criminal.

    My advice, take it for what it's worth as I know you don't know me, is to not laugh at your wife for wanting to be extra cautious with her family. One day, it might actually prevent a bad day for you guys.
    I get what your saying but my response is being taken out of context. I was directly responding to the person saying that Hispanics and blacks are more likely to comit a crime because there are more minorities in jail, I was saying that a white man is just as capable of committing a violent crime.

    To walk up on a crowded intersection and randomly pick a mini van with a family in it and snatching a kid right out is as bold a crime as any and I fear if someone is that intent on getting a child something like a locked door isn't gonna stop them. It would be easier just to smash the driver side window out, pull me out at gun point and take my van with my family in. Not trying to argue but I'm just saying. Like I said I didn't see the guy as a threat and I have military and security background so I feel like I'm pretty good at spotting imenent danger.

    But I really just found it as a good opportunity to give my wife a hard time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4saken View Post
    I get what your saying but my response is being taken out of context. I was directly responding to the person saying that Hispanics and blacks are more likely to comit a crime because there are more minorities in jail, I was saying that a white man is just as capable of committing a violent crime.
    I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. The only thing I can make sense of is the last line about white men being capable of violent crime. And I agree absolutely.

    Quote Originally Posted by S4saken View Post
    To walk up on a crowded intersection and randomly pick a mini van with a family in it and snatching a kid right out is as bold a crime as any and I fear if someone is that intent on getting a child something like a locked door isn't gonna stop them. It would be easier just to smash the driver side window out, pull me out at gun point and take my van with my family in.
    I don't think you get what I'm saying here. Stuff like the scenario I just quoted doesn't really happen unless the two parties know each other and it's a targeted crime. Your comment about being easier to smash out a window? No sir. To smash out a window, you're going to have to come prepared. You can't just nonchalantly walk up like nothing is wrong and smash out a car window. It would be a lot less conspicuous to just saunter up to a car and reach for the handle to see if it's unlocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by S4saken View Post
    Not trying to argue but I'm just saying. Like I said I didn't see the guy as a threat and I have military and security background so I feel like I'm pretty good at spotting imenent danger.
    I'm not trying to argue, either, man. Just see it a discussion. And you might not have seen the guy as a threat, but apparently your wife did. And whatever security experience you have surely can be a helpful asset, but you just never know, dude. Always better to play it safe, you know?

    Again, I think it's a cheap shot to take at your wife unless you were kidding around.

    But I really just found it as a good opportunity to give my wife a hard time.[/QUOTE]
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    I didn't have a car at the time so I was walking to my old job at the Buford farmers market. Had to cross a intersection and a older Asian lady was blocking where I had to walk. I ended up walking around the back of her car as soon as I got to the side of her car I heard her lock her doors. I just laughed and kept walking. ( Im mixed black/white)
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    I profile every race, including my own, and I'm white. However, i definitey profile minorities more. Profiling works, that's why the police do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Tirador View Post
    Im 6 feet tall, im black, 220lb, not fat, muscular-ish, not that ripped. I have heard car door locks pop a few times on my way to my car when they are in their car, lol, i just laugh at it, cause im actually Hispanic, i had to learn how to speak english when i came to this country when i was 11. But i really dont blame them, nowadays better be safe than sorry, I watch a lot of murder investigation shows and and after seeing that, i would lock my doors, and im always ready if that dont work. I wonder what they think when they see me get in my car, the probably think that it's stolen, lol
    Hispanic but really Black? Black but really hispanic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by l Gizzy l View Post
    Hispanic but really Black? Black but really hispanic?

    Raceception.
    lol @ you dude, you have not been outside GA much huh??? there arent a lot of black hispanic here in GA, go to New York, Miami, New Orleans, Houston and you will see a lot of us, my race is black, my skin color is black, but my ethnicity is Hispanic, im from Honduras. There are a lot of black people in Honduras, Panama, Dominican Republic and other Spanish coutries, they cant speak a lick of english, but they are black; black meaning their skin color is black. A lot of ignorant people here in GA dont get it, they're like "you are not black", and im like "yes, i am" , because i guess to them being black means not only having black skin color but also wearing pants 2x bigger and sagging, and talking slang which are things that white poeple also do, and not all black-american people do. I run into people ALL the time that have never even heard of black hispanic, a lot of white and latina chics dig it tho.......lol

    ..........so on that one you tried to be funny but.......ended showing some ingnorance

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyItsSkeero View Post
    No we're all assuming that it's up for repo.

    LOL oh yeah, that's a hot one too, but not this one, Thanks to God the car is paid off

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    Quote Originally Posted by S4saken View Post
    I get what your saying but my response is being taken out of context. I was directly responding to the person saying that Hispanics and blacks are more likely to comit a crime because there are more minorities in jail, I was saying that a white man is just as capable of committing a violent crime.

    To walk up on a crowded intersection and randomly pick a mini van with a family in it and snatching a kid right out is as bold a crime as any and I fear if someone is that intent on getting a child something like a locked door isn't gonna stop them. It would be easier just to smash the driver side window out, pull me out at gun point and take my van with my family in. Not trying to argue but I'm just saying. Like I said I didn't see the guy as a threat and I have military and security background so I feel like I'm pretty good at spotting imenent danger.

    But I really just found it as a good opportunity to give my wife a hard time.
    white people are 70% of the population yet they account for less of the jail population than blacks and/or minorities. It is what it is man.

    A labrador retriever might maul me to death the same way a lion would, but i still say a lion is more likely to do it.

    Blacks and minorities are more likely to commit a crime. This is a statistical probability. You would use this logic in every other aspect of your life, only reason you dont here is for feeling compelled to have empathy for blacks and minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Tirador View Post
    lol @ you dude, you have not been outside GA much huh??? there arent a lot of black hispanic here in GA, go to New York, Miami, New Orleans, Houston and you will see a lot of us, my race is black, my skin color is black, but my ethnicity is Hispanic, im from Honduras. There are a lot of black people in Honduras, Panama, Dominican Republic and other Spanish coutries, they cant speak a lick of english, but they are black; black meaning their skin color is black. A lot of ignorant people here in GA dont get it, they're like "you are not black", and im like "yes, i am" , because i guess to them being black means not only having black skin color but also wearing pants 2x bigger and sagging, and talking slang which are things that white poeple also do, and not all black-american people do. I run into people ALL the time that have never even heard of black hispanic, a lot of white and latina chics dig it tho.......lol

    ..........so on that one you tried to be funny but.......ended showing some ingnorance

    lol at taking it so serious, I was playing around...

    I would hate to show this "ingnorance" considering plenty of people on this forum can explain to you how my last girlfriend was black as well as hispanic. I could care less what race you are....Next time you try to insult someone by talking down to someone, be sure to spell the worlds correctly...Helps your case out a good bit.

    Anyway, carry on.

    And for the record: Racial stereotpyes have nothing to do with your ethnicity. Who's the "ingnorant" one again?
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    damn, watching something funny on TV and typing on a stupid forum at the same time is not a good idea, the talking down part would count if you were serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Tirador View Post
    damn, watching something funny on TV and typing on a stupid forum at the same time is not a good idea, the talking down part would count if you were serious
    nah man, I wouldnt talk like that. I understand where you're coming from, though. No hard feelins.


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    where was your girlfriend or her people from??, the best looking one i have met ironically was also from Honduras but the bad part was that she spoke -10 spanish, that's the main reason i did not date her, my english is not the best, i thought it was better in writing but.... you already know the answer to that lol

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    Dad's family was from Nigeria, mom's from Panama.


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    Quote Originally Posted by l Gizzy l View Post
    Dad's family was from Nigeria, mom's from Panama.
    oh damn that's crazy!!!!!!!!!!!, i once met a chick in the Bronx, one of her parents was from Venezuela and the other from Italy...........ill let you do the math

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    Damn, bet she was exotic looking. That's how my ex looked, never seen another girl that looked even similar to her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PTCDC5 View Post
    I profile every race, including my own, and I'm white. However, i definitey profile minorities more. Profiling works, that's why the police do it.
    All types of law enforcement does it, even airport TSA, seems to be working pretty well, why not? Perhaps this is why more minorities get caught commiting crimes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Franco Tirador View Post
    lol @ you dude, you have not been outside GA much huh??? there arent a lot of black hispanic here in GA, go to New York, Miami, New Orleans, Houston and you will see a lot of us, my race is black, my skin color is black, but my ethnicity is Hispanic, im from Honduras. There are a lot of black people in Honduras, Panama, Dominican Republic and other Spanish coutries, they cant speak a lick of english, but they are black; black meaning their skin color is black. A lot of ignorant people here in GA dont get it, they're like "you are not black", and im like "yes, i am" , because i guess to them being black means not only having black skin color but also wearing pants 2x bigger and sagging, and talking slang which are things that white poeple also do, and not all black-american people do. I run into people ALL the time that have never even heard of black hispanic, a lot of white and latina chics dig it tho.......lol

    ..........so on that one you tried to be funny but.......ended showing some ingnorance
    I'm black Hispanic also, Puerto Rican. People just think I'm black, I just go with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    white people are 70% of the population yet they account for less of the jail population than blacks and/or minorities. It is what it is man.

    A labrador retriever might maul me to death the same way a lion would, but i still say a lion is more likely to do it.

    Blacks and minorities are more likely to commit a crime. This is a statistical probability. You would use this logic in every other aspect of your life, only reason you dont here is for feeling compelled to have empathy for blacks and minorities.
    This is simple math. That's why I said a higher number of whites are sex offenders, the truth is a higher RATE of minorities are sex offenders. I'm not ignorant to the truth, it really doesn't bother me, at all.
    As stated before I can't careless what other minorities chose to do with there lives, my life is hectic enough worring about my wife and 2 kids.

    To be honest though, I'd be more afraid of the lab, there's a ton of those running around, haven't seen many lions though. But I guess I would be compelled to lock my doors if a lion did cross the street in front of my car, good point.

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