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    ^ That's cool man, I totally respect that. Totally your right to that opinion and I do see logic in your response.

    When I go out to a bar to have a whiskey drink and a beer, then I go home. I don't associate at places where there is a reputation for violence and I'm far past the age of getting blasted. But if I'm ever in an environment in which I can't control, as long as the law allows, I carry. Again, it all comes down to personal responsibility.

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    How many times have we heard about shootings happening while leaving a club in atlanta? Honestly think about it, the reason it happens is alot of clubs have metal detectors and the guy waiting for you in the parking lot knows with 100% certainty you are unarmed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    You say you dont want to mix alcohol and firearms in a "crowded bar" when referring to Tacomac. Define a bar? Applebees, Cheddars, TGIFridays.... ect ect ect are all restaurants with bars in them. I go to these places all the time without drinking beer. You said you're ok with carrying if you're just eating, so why do you feel so strongly about someone carrying or not carrying inside of Tacomac which is a "applebees-esc" establishment?






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    As far as taco mac is concerned, I look it like hooters or BWW. It is a food place that also serves alcohol. If you go in and have a beer while you eat, go right ahead. That is far different than walking in to your local bar to get hammered while you eat nachos and watch a game

    Again, more reading, less outrage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silversol View Post
    How many times have we heard about shootings happening while leaving a club in atlanta? Honestly think about it, the reason it happens is alot of clubs have metal detectors and the guy waiting for you in the parking lot knows with 100% certainty you are unarmed.
    And you think these shootings would go down if more drunks were carrying?

    Dumbest argument ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Again, more reading, less outrage.
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    I'm asking you what you define as a bar....... any place that serves alcohol???


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    I care a whole lot when you add alcohol to loaded weapons and crowded bars.

    Only a fucking idiot looking for a problem brings their pistol out to the bar with them

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    Am i a fucking idiot looking for a problem if i have my gun on me in applebees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    And you think these shootings would go down if more drunks were carrying?

    Dumbest argument ever.

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    using your logic, we should remove parking lots from any establishment that serves alcohol. Clearly anyone who walks into a place that serves alcohol will be drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitchface View Post
    But if I'm ever in an environment in which I can't control, as long as the law allows, I carry. Again, it all comes down to personal responsibility.
    Do you believe you can't control your environment without the use of a pistol?

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    I guess I am out of this argument as I don't drink in the first place. Do I carry my Glock in Applebees? Yes. Do I carry my Glock at Chili's? Yes. Do I carry my Glock into bars? I have no business in a bar so no I don't. As for establishments that are anti carry....that's their right and nobody can infringe on that. Don't like their policy? Don't go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    I'm asking you what you define as a bar....... any place that serves alcohol???




    Am i a fucking idiot looking for a problem if i have my gun on me in applebees?


    And again, reading comprehension fails you.

    If you dont know the difference between a restaurant that serves alcohol and a bar, I cant help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    And again, reading comprehension fails you.

    If you dont know the difference between a restaurant that serves alcohol and a bar, I cant help you.
    Ok, so what youre saying is that Tacomac is a restaurant that serves alcohol and there was no reason for you to come into this thread and object to carrying inside of this establishment. Got it, thanx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Do you believe you can't control your environment without the use of a pistol?
    I'm not goIng to play into your "gotcha games" so don't try and twist it. I will leave this argument at this: I carry at all times and at any place which is within the law. Have problems with that? Take it up with your GA lawmakers, not me. I just follow the law!!

    I suppose I should tell the criminals to "leave it at home for an hour" while they mug me outside a venue too, right?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    And again, reading comprehension fails you.

    If you dont know the difference between a restaurant that serves alcohol and a bar, I cant help you.
    All you need to do is look at the business licence posted at the front of the store. You'd be surprised how may "bars" are actually "restaurants"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitchface View Post
    I'm not goIng to play into your "gotcha games" so don't try and twist it. I will leave this argument at this: I carry at all times and at any place which is within the law. Have problems with that? Take it up with your GA lawmakers, not me. I just follow the law!!

    I suppose I should tell the criminals to "leave it at home for an hour" while they mug me outside a venue too, right?!!
    Oddly enough, this was the answer I was expecting

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    Then why even ask? You are just looking for an argument. Besides, your question was flawed to begin with when you said "use of a pistol." It's the same thing as saying that carrying your car keys in your pocket is using your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitchface View Post
    Then why even ask? You are just looking for an argument. Besides, your question was flawed to begin with when you said "use of a pistol." It's the same thing as saying that carrying your car keys in your pocket is using your car.
    I asked to pick your brain. To see if you'd be smart about it.

    And I guess you didn't understand the question anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitchface View Post
    Uh... yes you can. Please point me to any GA law that says you can't please, thanks. Anyway, you can absolutely drink and carry all day long, you just can't shoot your weapon if you are drunk or under the influence of anything else; unless you are defending yourself and then it's allowed. You just can't go to a bar and then go to the shooting range, that's illegal under GA law. If it's a "Bar" you need the owner's permission. Taco Mac is not a bar, it is a restaruant, no need for permission but any place can ask you to leave for carrying, if you don't it's trespassing. Granted I conceal, but if Taco Mac sees it or if you OC then they will ask you to leave, the owners are big ANTI.

    Not all bars are anti. I carry at Corner Tavern with the owners permission.

    Please read SB308.
    ^THAT^ Know that law....it is perfectly legal to carry in a bar. It is illegal to discharge the weapon if you are under the influence UNLESS you are defending your life, health, or property.


    O.C.G.A. § 16-11-134
    Discharging firearm while under the influence of alcohol or drugs

    (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to discharge a firearm while:

    (1) Under the influence of alcohol or any drug or any combination of alcohol and any drug to the extent that it is unsafe for the person to discharge such firearm except in the defense of life, health, and property;

    (2) The person's alcohol concentration is 0.08 grams or more at any time while discharging such firearm or within three hours after such discharge of such firearm from alcohol consumed before such discharge ended; or

    (3) Subject to the provisions of subsection (b) of this Code section, there is any amount of marijuana or a controlled substance, as defined in Code Section 16-13-21, present in the person's blood or urine, or both, including the metabolites and derivatives of each or both without regard to whether or not any alcohol is present in the person's breath or blood.

    (b) The fact that any person charged with violating this Code section is or has been legally entitled to use a drug shall not constitute a defense against any charge of violating this Code section; provided, however, that such person shall not be in violation of this Code section unless such person is rendered incapable of possessing or discharging a firearm safely as a result of using a drug other than alcohol which such person is legally entitled to use.

    (c) Any person convicted of violating subsection (a) of this Code section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.

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