In this thread, I deomstrate the future of America

[Sinfix_15]

Sometimes i wonder if freedom of speech is such a great thing after all. Maybe we should reserve this right for tax payers only, that might solve the problem.
In a day and age where sending an angry text or email to an exgirlfriend can get you arrested, how is it that the law doesnt prevent people from being told that theyre going to burn in hell? If i sent the text "You're going to burn for what you did", i could be arrested. If i were completely ignorant to christian lore and saw a protester holding a sign telling me that i was going to burn in hell, could that not be perceived as a threat? Why does the law assume that people are in understanding of christian meaning. Is being a christian a free pass to talk like a crazed lunatic? On the news yesterday i listened to a preacher giving his political advice to the presidential candidates. His advice was to lock "Lesbians and queers" in cages together and eventually they would die off because they wouldnt be able to reproduce.

My only beef is this........... Christians.... you have the right to say whatever you wish within the confines of the law. I want you to have this right, even if you use it to tell me i am going to burn in hell. However...... if you're going to abuse your freedoms, at least help pay for them. Give me one reason that any church should be tax exempt in a country that is trillions of dollars in debt. Based on a brief attempt at finding the answer, i estimate there is about 400,000 churches in the united states. For comparison, there's about 4000 Walmarts.

[Elbow]

So I may be missing the point here but it seems like you are mad tha people can say burn in hell or something related to hell because it relates to religion and not everyone is religious? LMFAO What is wrong with you? Either you just get bored and make dumb threads to have entertainment or you really are an idiot. It would be hard to find anyone that does not know the idea of heaven and hell. All I really see in here though is a bashing of Christianity and a lack of English.

[chaseamundo]

Holy Shit

[Browning151]

All I really see in here though is a bashing of Christianity

Pretty much. I guess OP doesn't realize that the concept of "hell" exists in other religions as well.

[Sinfix_15]

So I may be missing the point here but it seems like you are mad tha people can say burn in hell or something related to hell because it relates to religion and not everyone is religious? LMFAO What is wrong with you? Either you just get bored and make dumb threads to have entertainment or you really are an idiot. It would be hard to find anyone that does not know the idea of heaven and hell. All I really see in here though is a bashing of Christianity and a lack of English.

So as an american citizen i am required to have an understanding of a 1000 year old science fiction book? Why is it so hard to believe that some people absolutely do NOT believe in your religion. Being told i'm going to hell draws about the same emotional reaction as being told i'm going to be wisped away by magical unicorns.

Pretty much. I guess OP doesn't realize that the concept of "hell" exists in other religions as well.

Meaning nothing to the nonreligious. Is it a requirement to be a part of a religious group?

[Elbow]

So as an american citizen i am required to have an understanding of a 1000 year old science fiction book? Meaning nothing to the nonreligious. Is it a requirement to be a part of a religious group?

Stop acting like such an idiot. You do not need to understand the bible to know hell is a term for a bad place. You never fail at making me worry about the future of man kind. Lol

[Sinfix_15]

Stop acting like such an idiot. You do not need to understand the bible to know hell is a term for a bad place. You never fail at making me worry about the future of man kind. Lol

yet people who believe in angels, demons and lakes of fire do not make you worry about the future of man kind???? Understanding of the bible is about as useful as understanding The Lord of the Rings or what elements are needed to summon Captain Planet.

[Browning151]

Meaning nothing to the nonreligious. Is it a requirement to be a part of a religious group?

You attacked Christianity, you dolt. Your argument has nothing to actually do with hell, the concept thereof or freedom of speech, you're just pointlessly ranting on about Christianity.

[David88vert]

You need to break down your arguments in to logical separations to be able to have them taken seriously.

1) Freedom of speech in relationship to taxation.
2) The concept of hell in relationship to multiple religions and the non-religious.

Your muddling of these questions and concepts show your lack of logic, reason, and general common sense. You should pick a subject, and stick to it, without falling into tangents.

In the first question, freedom of speech has never been tied to taxation, and the 1st Amendment addresses it as a personal right of all individuals. Political, business, and religious affliations have no bearance on this fundamental right of all individuals.
Taxation is very different between businesses and individuals, and tax-exempt organizations do not have to be religious in nature to obtain tax exempt status.

[bu villain]

The issue here has nothing to do with Christianity. If you text your girlfriend and tell her you are going to burn her, that is a very specific threat from one individual to another. You may get a visit from the cops but I don't believe they can arrest you for that. It's probably good grounds for a restraining order though. Holding a sign saying that 'gays will burn in hell' for example is a very general threat which is not against any particular individual and it doesn't state the sign holder will do the burning. It is clearly different than 'I will burn Ellen DeGeneres".

Now if particular speech can be shown to incite violence then there may be a criminal action there, but as shown by many white supremacists, that is pretty hard to prove.

[nelson9995]

I'm guessing sinfix gets high every night (which I have nothing against) and thinks of these things that noone else thinks of and posts it on IA. lol

[Elbow]

yet people who believe in angels, demons and lakes of fire do not make you worry about the future of man kind???? Understanding of the bible is about as useful as understanding The Lord of the Rings or what elements are needed to summon Captain Planet.

Why would someones belief cause me to worry? I believe in God, does that mean I'm a gay hating everyone who doesn't believe in Jesus or read the Bible is going to hell type of guy? Nope.

Your argument here is flat out stupid, simple as that. I believe you're trying to make people angry versus having a real debate, you're clearly mad about religion for some reason and hoping to show your anger about it without seeming too much of a cry baby.

[-EnVus-]

Its to easy to photo shop or alter those signs and also churches are tax exempt cause they take in no profits. Churches give back to the community in many ways food drives, Help homeless, Shelter the needy, Clothes drives etc...I do think they allow to many people to operate or obtain the permit to have a church.
In Winder alone there is a remodeled building or store every 50 yards that has became a church in the past years. Not trying to sound racist in any way but they are almost all black owned and the owners drive new fancy cars...

[C230K]

Im convinced now that your just a cold hearted guy, first the funeral thread and now this, really? Its ok I will pray for you tonight

[Sinfix_15]

I'm guessing sinfix gets high every night (which I have nothing against) and thinks of these things that noone else thinks of and posts it on IA. lol

you might be on to something here.

Im convinced now that your just a cold hearted guy, first the funeral thread and now this, really? Its ok I will pray for you tonight

I'm a teddy bear.

You need to break down your arguments in to logical separations to be able to have them taken seriously.

1) Freedom of speech in relationship to taxation.
2) The concept of hell in relationship to multiple religions and the non-religious.

Your muddling of these questions and concepts show your lack of logic, reason, and general common sense. You should pick a subject, and stick to it, without falling into tangents.

In the first question, freedom of speech has never been tied to taxation, and the 1st Amendment addresses it as a personal right of all individuals. Political, business, and religious affliations have no bearance on this fundamental right of all individuals.
Taxation is very different between businesses and individuals, and tax-exempt organizations do not have to be religious in nature to obtain tax exempt status.

No need to separate religions to me, i view them all the same.

Freedom of speech IS tied to taxation as there are guidelines for keeping your tax exempt status. Based on the law, several churches violate the terms of their tax exempt status by exercising their "free speech". I mentioned one example in my "mindless" rant. I always bury facts in my posts.

[Sinfix_15]

Why would someones belief cause me to worry? I believe in God, does that mean I'm a gay hating everyone who doesn't believe in Jesus or read the Bible is going to hell type of guy? Nope.

Your argument here is flat out stupid, simple as that. I believe you're trying to make people angry versus having a real debate, you're clearly mad about religion for some reason and hoping to show your anger about it without seeming too much of a cry baby.

My argument is that churches violate the terms of their tax exempt status with their free speech and should have it revoked. Tax exempt status has specific rules and guidelines, some of which deal with public speaking. Watch the news...........

[Echonova]

Religious Organizations

To determine whether an organization meets the religious purposes test of section 501(c)(3), the IRS maintains two basic guidelines.

That the particular religious beliefs of the organization are truly and sincerely held.

That the practices and rituals associated with the organization's religious belief or creed are not illegal or contrary to clearly defined public policy.

Therefore, your group (or organization) may not qualify for treatment as an exempt religious organization for tax purposes if its actions, as contrasted with its beliefs, are contrary to well established and clearly defined public policy. If there is a clear showing that the beliefs (or doctrines) are sincerely held by those professing them, the IRS will not question the religious nature of those beliefs.
Churches. Although a church, its integrated auxiliaries, or a convention or association of churches is not required to file Form 1023 to be exempt from federal income tax or to receive tax deductible contributions, the organization may find it advantageous to obtain recognition of exemption. In this event, you should submit information showing that your organization is a church, synagogue, association or convention of churches, religious order, or religious organization that is an integral part of a church, and that it is engaged in carrying out the function of a church.

In determining whether an admittedly religious organization is also a church, the IRS does not accept every assertion that the organization is a church. Because beliefs and practices vary so widely, there is no single definition of the word church for tax purposes. The IRS considers the facts and circumstances of each organization applying for church status.

Convention or association of churches. Any organization that is otherwise a convention or association of churches will not fail to qualify as a church merely because the membership of the organization includes individuals as well as churches or because the individuals have voting rights in the organization.

Integrated auxiliaries. An organization is an integrated auxiliary of a church if all the following are true.

The organization is described both in sections 501(c)(3) and 509(a)(1), 509(a)(2), or 509(a)(3).

It is affiliated with a church or a convention or association of churches.

It is internally supported. An organization is internally supported unless both of the following are true.

It offers admissions, goods, services, or facilities for sale, other than on an incidental basis, to the general public (except goods, services, or facilities sold at a nominal charge or for a small part of the cost).

It normally gets more than 50% of its support from a combination of governmental sources, public solicitation of contributions, and receipts from the sale of admissions, goods, performance of services, or furnishing of facilities in activities that are not unrelated trades or businesses.

Special rule. Men's and women's organizations, seminaries, mission societies, and youth groups that satisfy (1) and (2) shown earlier are integrated auxiliaries of a church even if they are not internally supported.

In order for an organization (including a church and religious organization) to qualify for tax exemption, no part of its net earnings can inure to any individual.

Although an individual is entitled to a charitable deduction for contributions to a church, the assignment or similar transfer of compensation for personal services to a church generally does not relieve a taxpayer of federal income tax liability on the compensation, regardless of the motivation behind the transfer.


http://www.irs.gov/publications/p557...link1000200104

[Elbow]

My argument is that churches violate the terms of their tax exempt status with their free speech and should have it revoked. Tax exempt status has specific rules and guidelines, some of which deal with public speaking. Watch the news...........

L...M...F...A...O

[David88vert]

No need to separate religions to me, i view them all the same.

Freedom of speech IS tied to taxation as there are guidelines for keeping your tax exempt status. Based on the law, several churches violate the terms of their tax exempt status by exercising their "free speech". I mentioned one example in my "mindless" rant. I always bury facts in my posts.

Clearly, you do not view all religions as the same, as you specifically target only one - Christianity. You have not started any threads complaining about any other religions.

The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech. Please show me where it refers to taxation - there is none.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Here's a good article for you to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom..._United_States
Basically, you will see that religion and taxation are not affiliated with freedom of speech. Your concept that religion and taxation should be used to control the ability of individuals to practice their First Amendment right of freedom of speech is not only unconstitutional, it is against the very grain of what this country was founded upon, and if you feel that you need these constraints to be happy, I suggest that you move to a country that has these constraints - try China, Russia, Burma, etc.

Tax Exempt status comes form the IRS guidelines - not from the Constitution, which is the guideline of the law. The IRS is not tasked with creating the law, and cannot have any say concerning individual rights, that is the job of Congress. Your "facts" are incorrect, and your very concept of how the system works shows that you did not grasp the basics in civics class.

Now, personally, I have no problem with removing tax exempt status from EVERYONE and ALL organizations. All individuals and organizations use the common services provided by revenue gathered through taxation, so all should pay into the same system. We are all protected by our Armed Forces, we all use the fire and police departments, etc. That is very different than tying freedom of speech to taxpayer status.

[Jdm94Coupe]

You never fail at making me worry about the future of man kind. Lol

Why would someones belief cause me to worry? I believe in God, does that mean I'm a gay hating everyone who doesn't believe in Jesus or read the Bible is going to hell type of guy? Nope.

Isn't that what you just implied? You are worried about the future of man kind, based on his non religious statements above.

And no it doesn't mean YOU are a guy hating everyone for not believing in your religion. But the majority of religious people (especially christians) hate a group of people for other things....... ie being homosexual, not believing the same religion they do, not having a religion, not reading the bible and what not......

And honestly, I agree with the OP for once in IA history. I do think churches should pay taxes, I dont care about their free speech though. I just think that they take in huge amounts of $ and do what they want with it. Yes they do some good as well. But overall, especially big churches, they take in huge amounts of $ and dish out small amounts of $.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Now, personally, I have no problem with removing tax exempt status from EVERYONE and ALL organizations. All individuals and organizations use the common services provided by revenue gathered through taxation, so all should pay into the same system. We are all protected by our Armed Forces, we all use the fire and police departments, etc. That is very different than tying freedom of speech to taxpayer status.

Well said, I agree.

[Browning151]

But the majority of religious people (especially christians) hate a group of people for other things....... ie being homosexual, not believing the same religion they do, not having a religion, not reading the bible and what not......

Painting with a mighty wide brush there are we?

[Sinfix_15]

Clearly, you do not view all religions as the same, as you specifically target only one - Christianity. You have not started any threads complaining about any other religions.

The First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech. Please show me where it refers to taxation - there is none.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Here's a good article for you to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom..._United_States
Basically, you will see that religion and taxation are not affiliated with freedom of speech. Your concept that religion and taxation should be used to control the ability of individuals to practice their First Amendment right of freedom of speech is not only unconstitutional, it is against the very grain of what this country was founded upon, and if you feel that you need these constraints to be happy, I suggest that you move to a country that has these constraints - try China, Russia, Burma, etc.

Tax Exempt status comes form the IRS guidelines - not from the Constitution, which is the guideline of the law. The IRS is not tasked with creating the law, and cannot have any say concerning individual rights, that is the job of Congress. Your "facts" are incorrect, and your very concept of how the system works shows that you did not grasp the basics in civics class.

Now, personally, I have no problem with removing tax exempt status from EVERYONE and ALL organizations. All individuals and organizations use the common services provided by revenue gathered through taxation, so all should pay into the same system. We are all protected by our Armed Forces, we all use the fire and police departments, etc. That is very different than tying freedom of speech to taxpayer status.

I do view all religions the same, but what i talk about is dictated by my audience. For all you know, i have another thread posted on importIraqiKurdistan.com about the Koran too.


To retain tax exempt status, churches are required NOT to publicly endorse any candidate for any public office. This includes the president, obviously. Churches are not suppose to use their public exposure to comment on any government office in any way good or bad.

Example - " LiSssSsSSSssSsSSsSSSTeNN here Brothas and Sistas.................... i say i say i say i say i say listen here AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when i vote, i wont be votin for a mormon or a baby killa AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

This would be a violation of the tax exempt agreement. In order to retain tax exempt status, churches are not allowed to comment on any candidate for any government office. Something we know they ALL do...................... Churches should be held accountable for their actions and stupidity.

[Sinfix_15]

All of these violate the terms of tax exempt status.

[David88vert]

I do view all religions the same, but what i talk about is dictated by my audience. For all you know, i have another thread posted on importIraqiKurdistan.com about the Koran too.


To retain tax exempt status, churches are required NOT to publicly endorse any candidate for any public office. This includes the president, obviously. Churches are not suppose to use their public exposure to comment on any government office in any way good or bad.

Example - " LiSssSsSSSssSsSSsSSSTeNN here Brothas and Sistas.................... i say i say i say i say i say listen here AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when i vote, i wont be votin for a mormon or a baby killa AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

This would be a violation of the tax exempt agreement. In order to retain tax exempt status, churches are not allowed to comment on any candidate for any government office. Something we know they ALL do...................... Churches should be held accountable for their actions and stupidity.

You are not on another car site making the same type of statements that you do on here. Don't even try to say that you are.

Your statement that they cannot comment on any candidate is so wrong that its funny. You need to educate yourself before typing.
Read the IRS guidelines - see page 7-13 on http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

There are specific guidelines, and IF a church violates them (and yes, I am sure that quite a few have over the decades), THEN the IRS should remove their tax-exempt status, BUT ONLY if it is a statement from the Church, and not just the pastor expressing his own personal views. Again, read the guidelines.
If you have specific proof of a church violating the guidelines, then you would submit them to the IRS, so that the IRS can investigate. That is the proper course of action - not running to a local car forum and whining like a high school drama queen. No one on this forum is in the position to change the tax exempt status of any organization or individual.

So, how would you know what is being said in ALL of the churches, since you don't attend ANY of them?

[Elbow]

Isn't that what you just implied? You are worried about the future of man kind, based on his non religious statements above.

And no it doesn't mean YOU are a guy hating everyone for not believing in your religion. But the majority of religious people (especially christians) hate a group of people for other things....... ie being homosexual, not believing the same religion they do, not having a religion, not reading the bible and what not......

And honestly, I agree with the OP for once in IA history. I do think churches should pay taxes, I dont care about their free speech though. I just think that they take in huge amounts of $ and do what they want with it. Yes they do some good as well. But overall, especially big churches, they take in huge amounts of $ and dish out small amounts of $.

I'm worried about man kind because of his posts, not his bashing of religion, but lack of any common knowledge. How does someone even come up with this stuff? lol

The majority of Christians don't fit into that category, you don't see the majority, you see the ones speaking out and making everyone else look like inbred fools. I agree completely on large churches, some churches spend millions on their church, the excuse being to accommodate more people, I'm sorry but huge projectors, a massive sound system, laser lights, etc. Those do not accommodate more people. It's no myth that some churches are businesses and making money, sad to say though I don't see anyone doing anything about it.

A huge church I can see paying taxes, a church made up of fifty members in a small church house built by them and clearly donating only to the local community, they shouldn't have to. The issue is how do you say your church has to start paying taxes but that one doesn't? lol

[David88vert]

A huge church I can see paying taxes, a church made up of fifty members in a small church house built by them and clearly donating only to the local community, they shouldn't have to. The issue is how do you say your church has to start paying taxes but that one doesn't? lol

Small churches usually start in people's homes, and like most home-based businesses, they could easily get around paying taxes. Once they have enough to own a building in the churches name, they should have enough members to keep up with maintenance of the building and property taxes, just liek everyone else.

I don't recall Jesus ever asking for any tax-exempt status for the church. Churches use city/county/state/federal services and there is really no need for any organization or individual to not pay for the services that they share.
Read Romans 13:5-7

If a church catches on fire, the fire department responds. If there is a break in, the police respond. If the US is attacked, then our Army defends all of the US, including churches and other tax-exempt organizations.

[Jdm94Coupe]

Painting with a mighty wide brush there are we?

You honestly think thats not true? btw i forgot my personal favorite........ racist christians..... see/hear it ALL the time out here in mcdonough......

[Browning151]

You honestly think thats not true?

People who hate other people because they don't share their views are called bigots, not Christians. Not all Christians are Bible thumping intolerant fools, we're not all members of Westboro Baptist Church ya know. Would you also say the majority of Muslims want to strap a bomb on their chest and blow people up? Don't take the impressions you get from the media about the very fringe examples of religion, and let them shape your view on the majority.

btw i forgot my personal favorite........ racist christians..... see/hear it ALL the time out here in mcdonough......

How do you know these "racists" are Christians? Racists come in all shapes, sizes, colors and creeds, it's not just a Christian thing.

[Jdm94Coupe]

People who hate other people because they don't share their views are called bigots, not Christians. Not all Christians are Bible thumping intolerant fools, we're not all members of Westboro Baptist Church ya know. Would you also say the majority of Muslims want to strap a bomb on their chest and blow people up? Don't take the impressions you get from the media about the very fringe examples of religion, and let them shape your view on the majority.





How do you know these "racists" are Christians? Racists come in all shapes, sizes, colors and creeds, it's not just a Christian thing.

majority.

[Browning151]

majority.

Ignorant.

[Echonova]

Ignorant.

Bro... Cut him some slack.













He does live in McDonough after all. isn't that punishment enough?

[Echonova]

What I've learned from this thread is that all stereotypes are true.



















































Christians hate gays

Blacks like watermelon

Asians are good at math

Old white men run the world.

Mexicans make sure old white men have cheap labor

Europeans have more arrogance than common sense dictates they should.

Eskimos still swap wives.

[Browning151]

What I've learned from this thread is that all stereotypes are true.



Christians hate gays

Blacks like watermelon

Asians are good at math

Old white men run the world.

Mexicans make sure old white men have cheap labor

Europeans have more arrogance than common sense dictates they should.

Eskimos still swap wives.

Echo FTW.

[Jdm94Coupe]

What I've learned from this thread is that all stereotypes are true.

Christians hate gays

Blacks like watermelon

Asians are good at math

Old white men run the world.

Mexicans make sure old white men have cheap labor

Europeans have more arrogance than common sense dictates they should.

Eskimos still swap wives.

what you guys have not learned is the definition of majority.

Majority- The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total.

Hate is a word that isn't needed here. I would say that more then 50% of the people who consider themselves christians do not agree with homosexual people being married/ dont think they deserve equal rights. And yes, some christians DO hate gays. But you guys have to look beside yourselves and look at the complete picture. For every one of you christian guys on here, there is at least 2 other christians who in some shape or form do not like gay people. There are a lot of "christians" (especially out here in the country mcdonough area) who you can tell right off the bat when you look in their eyes and you both see a gay couple or a mixed race couple walk by, that they have a HUGE problem with it.

funny thing is....... SOME stereotypes are true for the MAJORITY..... im black and love watermelon. im also black with multiple computer networking certifications so the blacks are all lazy doesn't apply to me. but it does apply to the majority of black men i know. sometimes you have to face facts when it comes to the majority. hell, most of the black men at my college are lazy, can you imagine the ones that aren't even in college.

[Jdm94Coupe]

He does live in McDonough after all. isn't that punishment enough?

Yes it is. I'm from Detroit, TRUST me it's hell being around this many racists. I will be moving up on the northside sometime within the next year and a half. Hopefully its a little better for my family.

[Elbow]

what you guys have not learned is the definition of majority.

Majority- The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total.

Hate is a word that isn't needed here. I would say that more then 50% of the people who consider themselves christians do not agree with homosexual people being married/ dont think they deserve equal rights. And yes, some christians DO hate gays. But you guys have to look beside yourselves and look at the complete picture. For every one of you christian guys on here, there is at least 2 other christians who in some shape or form do not like gay people. There are a lot of "christians" (especially out here in the country mcdonough area) who you can tell right off the bat when you look in their eyes and you both see a gay couple or a mixed race couple walk by, that they have a HUGE problem with it.

funny thing is....... SOME stereotypes are true for the MAJORITY..... im black and love watermelon. im also black with multiple computer networking certifications so the blacks are all lazy doesn't apply to me. but it does apply to the majority of black men i know. sometimes you have to face facts when it comes to the majority. hell, most of the black men at my college are lazy, can you imagine the ones that aren't even in college.

He was kidding.

I'm Christian, I love gays and black people.

[Sinfix_15]

You are not on another car site making the same type of statements that you do on here. Don't even try to say that you are.

Your statement that they cannot comment on any candidate is so wrong that its funny. You need to educate yourself before typing.
Read the IRS guidelines - see page 7-13 on http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

There are specific guidelines, and IF a church violates them (and yes, I am sure that quite a few have over the decades), THEN the IRS should remove their tax-exempt status, BUT ONLY if it is a statement from the Church, and not just the pastor expressing his own personal views. Again, read the guidelines.
If you have specific proof of a church violating the guidelines, then you would submit them to the IRS, so that the IRS can investigate. That is the proper course of action - not running to a local car forum and whining like a high school drama queen. No one on this forum is in the position to change the tax exempt status of any organization or individual.

So, how would you know what is being said in ALL of the churches, since you don't attend ANY of them?

It's not difficult or time consuming to make a thread. I wasnt submitting this thread for your approval and in hopes of you taking action and fulfilling my request. Yes, this is a car forum.... but you are currently viewing a section created for "100% useless, BS, Rants ect", if you find yourself troubled by the content here, id like to politely direct you to many of the other fine sections of IA.

No, i am not a church inspector and i do not tour the globe attending churches. I do find it extremely amusing that one of the most clear cut examples of a pastor violating his tax exempt status was one who was doing it with the now president of the united stats sitting in attendance.

[Sinfix_15]

I'm worried about man kind because of his posts, not his bashing of religion, but lack of any common knowledge. How does someone even come up with this stuff? lol

The majority of Christians don't fit into that category, you don't see the majority, you see the ones speaking out and making everyone else look like inbred fools. I agree completely on large churches, some churches spend millions on their church, the excuse being to accommodate more people, I'm sorry but huge projectors, a massive sound system, laser lights, etc. Those do not accommodate more people. It's no myth that some churches are businesses and making money, sad to say though I don't see anyone doing anything about it.

A huge church I can see paying taxes, a church made up of fifty members in a small church house built by them and clearly donating only to the local community, they shouldn't have to. The issue is how do you say your church has to start paying taxes but that one doesn't? lol

You dont speak out against the ones speaking out like "inbred fools" so i assume you stand with them. You confirm everything i suggest in your post, yet you still feel the need to call me uninformed. If you watched the news...... you would see that the tax exempt status of select churches has been called into question. I dont pull these ideas out of my ass.

[Sinfix_15]

what you guys have not learned is the definition of majority.

Majority- The greater number or part; a number more than half of the total.

Hate is a word that isn't needed here. I would say that more then 50% of the people who consider themselves christians do not agree with homosexual people being married/ dont think they deserve equal rights. And yes, some christians DO hate gays. But you guys have to look beside yourselves and look at the complete picture. For every one of you christian guys on here, there is at least 2 other christians who in some shape or form do not like gay people. There are a lot of "christians" (especially out here in the country mcdonough area) who you can tell right off the bat when you look in their eyes and you both see a gay couple or a mixed race couple walk by, that they have a HUGE problem with it.

funny thing is....... SOME stereotypes are true for the MAJORITY..... im black and love watermelon. im also black with multiple computer networking certifications so the blacks are all lazy doesn't apply to me. but it does apply to the majority of black men i know. sometimes you have to face facts when it comes to the majority. hell, most of the black men at my college are lazy, can you imagine the ones that aren't even in college.

We're so heavily coached not to stereotype anyone or anything these days that people are scared to say anything that could remotely be derived as racism. People also feel the need to over compensate and defend the honor of anyone who might be offended by stereotypes. If someone says something about inbred trailer park meth addict white people from the south being a problem...... my reaction isnt "hey hey hey hey now....... you wait a one gosh darn minute here buddy, according to the census only 21.47% of poverty level white people who inhabit trailer parks in the south have a history of drug related offenses, i take offense to your comment sir" but.... thats the way a lot of people around here seem to respond. Maybe tomorrow i'll wake up in the fantasy land that they live in.

Most stereotypes are funny. They only bother you if you let them. Once you loosen up and learn to take a joke, racial stereotypes are not an issue. I have more black friends than white, i hear most of them use stereotypes on a daily basis. I've invited black friends to a pool party and had them say something like "come on man, im black, you know i aint gettin in no water" or a black friend come over and see me watering the grass and say something like "only at a white person's house".

stereotypes only bother you if you let them. I almost feel sympathy for the people standing up against stereotypes, they must really bother them.