this site was pretty badass when i first joined...there were heated debates about gtr's, e battles, pretty exciting stuff, I even pissed someone off enough that they threatened to kill me, and they were serious! Now there's just nothing interesting to read or post...=( Maybe we've all matured a bit, or maybe all the people who made the forum interesting moved on and grew up. No matter what it isn't ever going to feel the same as it use to.