Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
Damn intellectuals.....
First off, let me say this was an outstanding post.

Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
If you follow the bible, even a little, this world makes sense to you. Laws are laws....it started with the 10 commandments, IMO. Adam & Eve could not follow directions from the beginning of time and were punished. Laws have been in place to bestow order (in some form, lol).

Now, there also has been a person/force that wishes to defy the laws set in place and use the same arguments that Ran has listed. Do they make sense, very much so! Usually, though, these people/forces are negative in actions and intentions. They want to do the opposite, but history proves that it causes chaos and disfunction. Then majority rule kicks in, because you are disturbing the normality of life. Sure, in some cases that normality is not in the best interest (some dictators come to mind), but until another majority rule leaps the current, it is what it is.
The Bible also states that mankind is unfit to rule itself. Not to turn this into a religious debate, but if what you say is true then why should we abide by the laws and regulations set forth by man if God's will is divine law in the end? What if man's law says different from God's? While I respect your religious stance, I see organized religion as corrupt as the governing bodies in the political realm. However, I do not see the religious aspect in itself to be the enemy. Only those that would force their beliefs onto others and force them to obey "divine" law. As long as a religion focuses on those that willingly submit to it, then that's fine.

Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
In closing, to answer Ran's questions, the basic drives for life are instilled in every individual on earth. It is us who choose to unleash this power and harness its capability. I think that people enslave themselves and therefore hinder their ability to enjoy life. Everyone who is born into this earth is given guidelines and instinct. It is up to YOU to adapt and conquer. Even if everyone was left to fend for themselves, or rely on survival of the fittest, you would still have to make decision based on a standard norm.
I really like where you went with this part and I agree 100%.