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lol like thats any different then every other night there
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That may very well be true, and yet I still stand by my statement. I didn't make the statement merely as some excuse why Mccain didn't get elected. I made the statement more so because I'd rather politicians be elected based on educated information and knowledge about what they proclaim to stand for instead of being elected because they bombarded the masses with fancy commercials and herd mentality. Know what I mean?
See, I don't have a single problem with anyone defending their belief and their vote IF they defend it using intelligence and common sense. If they just rattle off some infomercial they saw on TV as a justification for their vote, then they'd be better off buying widgets off the Shopping Network and leave the voting to people who take it seriously.
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yeah i was just saying something to my boss today about this factor. yes this was the largest voter turn out and my generation of voters came out in herds. that doesn't mean that votes were cast by people who knew wtf they were doing. i think a VAST majority of my generation that voted, just voted because they are supposed to now. so whoever they saw the best commercial for or whoever was cool (as lame as that sounds, i BET that shit happened). and also, my g/f is a perfect example, a lot of my gen. voted for a party based on what their parents beliefs or voted for a party simply because they didn't want to be like their parents. my g/f voted republican. why? because her parents are republican. if you asked her why... i bet money she would stumble all over the place and maybe ramble a fact from a commercial or something she heard from her parents or a colleague. so i think a lot of votes were cast as just a shadow of their parents vote.
im sorry but ...
imo i think the reason whe had a crazy turnout for voters is because he is "BlAcK" (not to be racist but i have never seen so many black voters at the polls in my life)
... and the funny part is my father told me that if he was to be arrested by the FBI or such he would be booked in as a WHITE MALE .
Yea it sucks Obama won...I don't necessarily like McCain but he is better than Obama...When people ask me my main reason I tell them I wasn't voting someone with muslim/islam backgrounds into office. This country was founded on christianity and it should stay that way!
No I'm not racist and this is just the way I believe...
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95% of black people who voted, voted for obama.
And your point is?
If the Democratic candidate had been White, the percentage would have still been high. Kerry got 87.4 % of the Black vote in 2004.
Get off of it.
Black ppl mostly vote Democratic.
Obama = Democratic and guess what...he happened to be Black. Big fk'in deal.
While that is true, Blacks tend to trend Democrat anyways.
The real point about this election is not the total percentage, but the TOTAL NUMBER of Blacks that voted. I do not know the actual numbers but let me put it in perspective.
Kerry got 90% of the "black Vote". Lets say ONLY 1000 people Blacks Voted in 2004. That means Kerry got 900 Votes to the Republicans 100.
Obama got 90% of the "black vote". Lets say 1 million Blacks voted in 2008. That means OBama got 900,000 votes to the Republicans 100,000.
That means a gain of 899,100 votes for Dems and 99,900 for Republicans.
So Obamas 90% is much more significant than Kerrys "90%"
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Obama also got over 63% of the "white" vote so it doesnt seem this election was motivated by race. People of all colors were voting for Obama. While i will agree that the number of blacks voting increased because it was a black candidate, but i would expect the same if a Hispanic or Asian were running too.
Its only natural for one to take pride in their race an in that respect this was a historic election.
My disdain for Obama has nothing to do with the color of his skin. I didnt like Kerry either. I just didnt like the Dems policies.
I guess my main grievance would be the people that voted for obama SOLELY based on him being black. But to make that argument you would have to have some hard to get data. Likewise im sure there was a bunch of people that DIDNT vote for him because he was black.
Again after seeing the results i dont think race played a big role in this election
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Exactly.
The whole who voted for whom based on race argument is moot as there is no hard evidence to substantiate claims from either side.
Based on the numbers we do have, it stands to reason that his win wasn't based overwhelmingly on race.
And also, I agree with the assertion that if the candidate had been Asian or Hispanic, there would be significant representation from those groups as well.
The moral of the story ppl...Let it go. No amount of bitching and pointing fingers is going to change the results.
Ironically, it was being said that if Mccain won, Black ppl would holler foul play and racism but here it is being used by the other side of the fence.
I will say this, and it may come off wrong, but hear me out.
The majority of the black people i have seen have been pleasant. they havent been gloating, or saying anything negative or derogatory. And i wouldnt expect them to. Just saying that is my observation. i was sitting in the food court of a mall on Wed for lunch, and i was surrounded by Black Businessmen and not one of them was talking (i was eavesdropping) or gloating about OBama winning. It was just another normal day.
Now, i havent heard any white people upset either from the people ive talked to.
Maybe our race relations are alot better than we think...........
Also, i think if Mccain won people would have accepted it. Maybe been upset, but would have accepted it. I dont think there would have been riots, and if there were riots, it would be from the same low life scum that rioted during OJ, World Series, Rodney King, etc.
If Obama would have lost by less than 500 votes, like Gore did in 2000, man, i shutter to think what would have happened. It prob would have been pretty bad from BOTH sides
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im waiting for the attitude shift coming..... well see how it goes
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I've seen, read and heard the race baiting from both sides since yesterday and it's ridiculous, to be honest.
Not to undermine President Elect Obama's accomplishment but his winning is not indicative of complete racial harmony in this country.
Ugly feelings and motives, from both sides, have come to the surface because of the obvious.
yeah true, i mean you hear it, but in reality, at least for me, i have encountered anyone racist toward me, and regardles of what you think, im not racist either lol.
My black friends, are still my friends, so are my white friends.
Maybe this in a way was the BEST thing that could have happened RACE wise.
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Were all going to be broke, there were communist flag being waved around after he won.
You're right. " We" are not broke right now. Not even a little.
Nevermind the bailout.
Nevermind the stockmarket.
Nevermind that GM, Ford, and Chrysler are asking the government for money.
Nevermind the fact that ppl are losing their jobs and homes and are having to receive handouts. I repeat, ppl are already receiving HANDOUTS.
This thread has exploded faster than I can read it all. Forgive me if there is a lot of over lap---->( that should be understood as a "trend" with ligitimate reasons behind it.)
Yes Obama got every unethical vote in the nation.
Ive had several of my own experiences proving that people seriously have no idea what his policies are and regurgitate the media brain washing. So you are not alone others whom have stated such.
Socialized Medical Care BLOWS look at Canada.
Giving money to the poor, redistributing wealth, socializing private sectors, heavily taxing the group that spends the most and such stresses the infrastructure of thecountry. Yes our country is in hard economic times. That means we can't afford the stress on the system.
But whatever people like generalized words like "change" and "free money".
Oh and btw im bitter lol but i'll cope.
My biggest wish in all of this is that it just doesnt get too screwed up. If he manages to pull that off I'll stop voting. (LOL)
Pretty much, GOD showed his bad side on Bush and took it out on his country, since Bush is not the son of man and will not control the world. sry
CHASE ->>> WHAT MATTERS
Its amazing though. During the BUSH Presidency, when did you every bluntly ask someone why they supported him? I've never once heard that question these 8 years. No one can really even remember why. Its a non-issue. Yall are all hot in ur pants because he's dark, socialist, bah.
Whether those voted for the pure hope of "change" or for his policies, its a non issue, more of the country voted for than against, ESPECIALLY the money center of America, New England. Where obviously the tax increase will effect a wide majority (that does not exclude CA and TX and bits of GA, FL WA and NE, yes richness is there as well.)
So all this crying and kicking and screaming over other people other than urself talking about someone elses policies is a waste and is solely placed on this for a argument.
Maybe YOU studied Bush's policies, but very few of ur friends and co-workers can verify and read mostly word for word. So leave it be, suck it up, its someone elses turn to lead this nation, turn it around and get it headed for our futures, our kids futures. Not for ur greedy ass American views.
CHASE ->>> WHAT MATTERS
Another tid bit for all the Obama philes who are reading this. I think most who voted for McCain will agree with me when I say that "He was a lesser of two evils." I didn't care for either candidate but I believe after looking at BOTH of their policies (not just watching their ads) that McCain would suck less that is all. If a space blob somehow had managed to qualify for the presidency and had good ethics, policies, and experience I'd vote for him. Definitley wasn't about race/religion or anything of the sort for me. Just qualifications.
Obama was meant to win. The powers that be made it happen. He's taking the fall for GWB's mess up. Noone can fix the economy we have right now, only time will fix it. Obama is going to pull out of iraq(FUCK UP) and that will screw him over. You notice there were a lot of republicans that voted democrat this year. GWB made a mess of things and now Obama has to (TRY) to fix things. He won't be able to, and when he doesn't, Election of 2012 the Republican campaign will use the same thing the Dem's used against the republican's this year "Do you really want another OBAMA?" Noone will be thinking of the republicans GWB, they'll just be thinking of B-Racks Shit attack!
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You can't be serious?
I hope you're being facetious.
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