the OFFICIAL IM UPSET OBAMA WON/MCCAIN LOST THREAD

[AirMax95]

Jamie, I get your point completely. Honeslty I agree, but to go even further, we need to educate people also. I volunteer locally for different events and organizations. The one thing that I have not seen is a class/course on politics. It would be awesome to a few professors, politicians, even normal people who know their stuff have educational seminars.

It could even be sponsored by local politicans, EVEN the damn parties!

I am going to get to work on this today, making an email to a contact now!

[BobbyFresco]

you cats prob wont even notice a damn difference, so hush up and continue living your daily life. its not like you making huge monies and about to get some of that taken away from you. crap im assuming most of you make less than $12/hour so keep living the same life you do know and stop saying your moving out of the country because you prob dont have enough money to buy a plane ticket out of this country lol

You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.

And I have yet to see anyone with REAL money bitch about the 3% tax increase.

[Sport1.3]

Jamie, I get your point completely. Honeslty I agree, but to go even further, we need to educate people also. I volunteer locally for different events and organizations. The one thing that I have not seen is a class/course on politics. It would be awesome to a few professors, politicians, even normal people who know their stuff have educational seminars.

It could even be sponsored by local politicans, EVEN the damn parties!

I am going to get to work on this today, making an email to a contact now!

WHen i was in HS Economics, Government and political Science were all required courses

has that changed?

[Sport1.3]

You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.

And I have yet to see anyone with REAL money bitch about the 3% tax increase.

weath trickles down. What hurts those 250K business owners, eventually hurts those working for them. Its simple really

[Ran]

You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.

What about those of us planning on opening a business? Are we allowed to b*tch?

[AirMax95]

To be honest, I read it and I sense a lot of anger. A few things though;

- I personally don't give a sh*t about Obama's race, but his views on healthcare and the like worry me.
- He is still a puppet for his party. He may not be a white puppet, but he's still a puppet.
- Might as well joke about slavery and racism. If not then it'll get taken too seriously and, let's face it, nobody wants that. Roll with the punches man.
- I'll give Obama a chance but, with a Democratic Congress behind him, I can't say that I think the changes will be for the better. Time will tell.

Frustration more than anger

-I commend you on the first bullet, though many people will type it, but don't me a damn keystroke.
-I agree with you on the second bullet, but he is not going to be easily swayed IMO.
-Joking about slavery/racism is not something that I can agree with. I am opened-minded beyon belief, but there are too many racist and bigots out there that make me want to punch them. I interact with the community alot and refuse to let those notions continue to get swept under the rug.
-I agree again!

[Jaimecbr900]

and Jamie, i'm kind of surprised at ya dude..You know education in this country was already a joke long before Obama/McCain started running..American kids/students are dumb as a whole...THey know more about whose winning on American Idol rather than actual issues going on in the world..Let alone our own friggin backyard

You shouldn't be surprised Walker. You know that I think you're as smart as wingless fly caught on fly paper and that's only BECAUSE you're black......pffft..... JP.

I'm just playing. I know full well that basic education in this country totally sucks. Part of the reason is exactly this.....we let students get to COLLEGE w/o knowing how many states we have. How's that happen? My daughter who is 14 knows the answer to that. But my point is exactly that......we are letting those same people who have no basic knowledge of our Political system.....hell, basic knowledge of the country they live in.....VOTE. Why? There is no right that says we have to in a Presidential election. So, why do we keep perpetuating the same idiocy over and over again. We don't let people w/o a degree and passing a test operate on us, right? Why do we allow people that are too stupid decide who can take our money at the end of a gun then????

You still my boy blue.

[BobbyFresco]

What about those of us planning on opening a business? Are we allowed to b*tch?

When and IF you do, then you can bitch all you want. But you don't. Moot point, bro.

[civic95]

But its done everyday unfortunately... From blacks to Hispanics to jews.. Until racism is abolished.. the race card will always be there

What you mean is as long as we are different colors, the race card will always be used. That's bullshit. Everyone has the same opportunity in this country starting today. Males, females, black, white, asian. I don't want to hear it. Seems like some people still want to use it as an excuse when it's convenient.

[AirMax95]

WHen i was in HS Economics, Government and political Science were all required courses

has that changed?

You are very correct sir, but you and I both know that there are older people who forget, many that don't care, and some that really never understood it in school. School is a pressure for many people. Many did not want to dissapoint thier parents, so they cheated their way to good grades, learning jack shit.

A community seminar/class or something of the sort will not be a pressure, and will slowly better America and honestly not cost us a lot.

I am not arguing that people should be hand fed information, hell its on the web EVERYWHERE. I do feel though that our education system can be supplemented through community involvement. I went to pretty decent schools growing up, made excellent grades, then went to college for 2 degrees. Honeslty, I gained a lot of knowledge through the after school programs that reinerated the classroom learning.

I am going to pitch this to some people and attempt to get a ball rolling.

[Ran]

Frustration more than anger

Understandable. This has been one of the ugliest election seasons that I've seen due to ignorance from all people. I'm just glad it's over.

Joking about slavery/racism is not something that I can agree with. I am opened-minded beyon belief, but there are too many racist and bigots out there that make me want to punch them. I interact with the community alot and refuse to let those notions continue to get swept under the rug.

This is just one of those times where you need to tell who's joking and who's actually an ignorant b*stard. I, personally, will joke about anything from race to religion. That's just me though.

When and IF you do, then you can bitch all you want. But you don't. Moot point, bro.

I was joking man, hence the smilie. lol

I am actually working towards my own business though.

[Maniacc]

Obama won, kewl, I say lets not suck each others dicks just yet, two months til the landlord hands him the keys. Who knows what's gonna happen. I still think that marshall law is on the cards by then. If ya know what I mean.

[AirMax95]

Understandable. This has been one of the ugliest election seasons that I've seen due to ignorance from all people. I'm just glad it's over.

This is just one of those times where you need to tell who's joking and who's actually an ignorant b*stard. I, personally, will joke about anything from race to religion. That's just me though.

I was joking man, hence the smilie. lol

I am actually working towards my own business though.

This election was terrible. I hate to see it when a Hispanic or Asian (looks like or is, lol) attempts to run for office.

I have been picking apart peoples words my WHOLE life, lol. I am pretty good at it. I have never worked with black people since I graduated college. There are 4 in my office now, including me. I have heard some comments in the office, but let them go b/c they seem like jokes.

Not everyone is that way, but at least you realize it exists.

[The Ren]

What you mean is as long as we are different colors, the race card will always be used. That's bullshit. Everyone has the same opportunity in this country starting today. Males, females, black, white, asian. I don't want to hear it. Seems like some people still want to use it as an excuse when it's convenient.

No thats no what I mean... What I mean is as long as people SEE it that way then we will. If people dont get over themselves and fucking realize that the COLOR of someones skin means nothing then we will never get rid of racism.

[Sport1.3]

When and IF you do, then you can bitch all you want. But you don't. Moot point, bro.

Actually, it deters small business, which accounts for a very large portion of the US economy.....its directly proportional. 2/3's of 1/2% (half was reported by households in the top marginal income tax rate) of the 706 Billion dollars reported annually in 2006 was accredited to small business. That’s roughly 235 billion dollars. Why work harder, when you're not going to earn much more money? How then do we stimulate small business owners to buy more, create more job opportunities, expand, Provide for their families, give back more to their immediate community and so on.... Obama's Capital gain proposal is sickening as is. A tax rate that is the highest marginal rate faced in nearly a quarter-century. 37.9% to 50.3% for Sole proprietor and partner rate. You tell me how most small business owners will afford to maintain their business, let alone those who are driven away at the prospect.

[BobbyFresco]

Like it has been said already, this is monumental in that now it can't be said that the we are held back by * insert race or ethnic group*

It's time for the Black community to start taking accountability for themselves. No more excuses.

I'm really hoping that this will inspire young Black men and Women and any person of any other race or ethnicity really, to perform to their fullest potential, to accomplish positive goals.

[BobbyFresco]

No thats no what I mean... What I mean is as long as people SEE it that way then we will. If people dont get over themselves and fucking realize that the COLOR of someones skin means nothing then we will never get rid of racism.

Racism will always exist. There's no if and's or but's about it.
All one can hope is that one day, it will only be a very marginal issue.

[Sport1.3]

Like it has been said already, this is monumental in that now it can't be said that the we are held back by * insert race or ethnic group*

It's time for the Black community to start taking accountability for themselves. No more excuses.

I'm really hoping that this will inspire young Black men and Women and any person of any other race or ethnicity really, to perform to their fullest potential, to accomplish positive goals.

i agree this could be one of a very few possitive outlooks on the situation

[4dmin]

You hit the nail on the head.
Majority of the ppl bitching about taxes will never see a 250k income year in their lives or own a business.

And I have yet to see anyone with REAL money bitch about the 3% tax increase.

you won't either b/c they can afford cpa's to make up more then 3%

i would love to know the incomes of all of these "educated voters"

[AirMax95]

Like it has been said already, this is monumental in that now it can't be said that the we are held back by * insert race or ethnic group*

It's time for the Black community to start taking accountability for themselves. No more excuses.

I'm really hoping that this will inspire young Black men and Women and any person of any other race or ethnicity really, to perform to their fullest potential, to accomplish positive goals.

Well said........

[BobbyFresco]

you won't either b/c they can afford cpa's to make up more then 3%

i would love to know the incomes of all of these "educated voters"

Yup. Ppl with REAL money have REALLY good accountants...

I know this for a fact. What with all the loopholes and write off's, the increase is a joke.

[4dmin]

You shouldn't be surprised Walker. You know that I think you're as smart as wingless fly caught on fly paper and that's only BECAUSE you're black......pffft..... JP.

I'm just playing. I know full well that basic education in this country totally sucks. Part of the reason is exactly this.....we let students get to COLLEGE w/o knowing how many states we have. How's that happen? My daughter who is 14 knows the answer to that. But my point is exactly that......we are letting those same people who have no basic knowledge of our Political system.....hell, basic knowledge of the country they live in.....VOTE. Why? There is no right that says we have to in a Presidential election. So, why do we keep perpetuating the same idiocy over and over again. We don't let people w/o a degree and passing a test operate on us, right? Why do we allow people that are too stupid decide who can take our money at the end of a gun then????

You still my boy blue.

here is what i'm not drinking the juice on... Obama got the majority vote for every age bracket except seniors... EVERY AGE BRACKET. sorry but the bright minds of america aren't 70+ years old; i would love to know the education level of people under 50 vs 50+. You may be very surprised to find that McCain won't have as many voters as you think if they all had to take a test.

[ksniperfox]

lol at 09588585749rirofkgfkth

black people buying newspapers at my QT this morning....and 1 white guy buying his usualy paper....

and guesswhat...im retiring on unemployment next year!

[Sport1.3]

lol at 09588585749rirofkgfkth

black people buying newspapers at my QT this morning....and 1 white guy buying his usualy paper....

and guesswhat...im retiring on unemployment next year!

GIVE ME MAH MONIES!!!

[§treet_§peed]

eh looks like i don't need to go job hunting now....

[BobbyFresco]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?

[AirMax95]

lol at 09588585749rirofkgfkth

black people buying newspapers at my QT this morning....and 1 white guy buying his usualy paper....

and guesswhat...im retiring on unemployment next year!

Yep, and I bought 2

[Ran]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?

Obama won. No riots necessary.

[HalfBaked]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?

People I know said there were people celebrating in their apartment complex and throwing beer bottles. Other people I talked to heard gunshots.

[Sport1.3]

Ummm, so the riots, where are they? Anyone?

that was if McCain won bro lol

[Sport1.3]

People I know said there were people celebrating in their apartment complex and throwing beer bottles. Other people I talked to heard gunshots.

there were reported gunshots at Spellman College on the news

[ksniperfox]

Yep, and I bought 2

lol i was going to buy one too, but the time i got off, we were out of papers


i mean im white, but the 1st black president is pretty damn major historical event and should be a good read if you ask me.

[4dmin]

there were reported gunshots at Spellman College on the news

lol like thats any different then every other night there

[BobbyFresco]

There were people claiming that the negras would riot regardless.
And I'm sure had Mccain won, there would have been no riots.
And rednecks and yuppies alike, would have been firing off guns and acting an ass as well.

[AirMax95]

lol i was going to buy one too, but the time i got off, we were out of papers


i mean im white, but the 1st black president is pretty damn major historical event and should be a good read if you ask me.

Yeah, all bullshit aside, it is a good feeling IMO whether or not you like him.

It motivated me to step up in my own life. I am not doing bad, but there is more that I can do to help the country.

[4dmin]

bobby i'm wondering how the girl in your sig feels right now...

[BobbyFresco]

bobby i'm wondering how the girl in your sig feels right now...

All that work for nothing...LOLOLOL
She's probably in a mental institution somewhere.
On a serious note, I hope she gets the help she needs.

[4dmin]

All that work for nothing...LOLOLOL
She's probably in a mental institution somewhere.
On a serious note, I hope she gets the help she needs.

lol i hope she gets stuck in the pooper by a really big black man for making up some stoopid ass BS story. carve a backward letter in your face and pick the wrong one

[§treet_§peed]

if you didn't vote for McCain then your racist and sexist as well!!!! it is a double edge sword... its a loose loose situation..

[OneSlow5pt0]

i still think all the media,u know MTV,BET etc....almsot make it out to show voting for obama is the right thing,if u dont ur wrong........and as it was the cool thing too

i agree with some of obama's views like abortion and gay rights,but i dont like his background and lack of exp.

2 times i hate that he was said is:hes not gonna drill off shore for oil,and hes gonna raise taxes very high on price of coal,which will put them out of jobs.....which is funny since coal mining country voted for him