Who Puts A 2JZ Into An FD???

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Another thing about a rotary. If the right person builds it, it can last a very very long time under the toughest conditions.

Same with DSM's, that don't mean sht.

[EJ25RUN]

Same with DSM's, that don't mean sht.

Sorry but yes it does. Very few mechanics are properly trained to work on a Rotary and not many diy mechanics are up to it either. A rotary is not a failed item from the factory like the 7 bolt dsm was.

[Catnip]

Sorry but yes it does. Very few mechanics are properly trained to work on a Rotary and not many diy mechanics are up to it either. A rotary is not a failed item from the factory like the 7 bolt dsm was.

Sorry, but if there's 3 guys that can make a rotary reliable, that's not win.
IDC about no damn 7 bolts. BTW, bad mpg, high temps, and no reliability (except the few...) is not success.... in fact I think it's called inefficiency.

[EJ25RUN]

Sorry, but if there's 3 guys that can make a rotary reliable, that's not win.
IDC about no damn 7 bolts. BTW, bad mpg, high temps, and no reliability (except the few...) is not success.... in fact I think it's called inefficiency.

Think of it like a two stroke, there are easier ways to do something, but you prove more when you take the challenge. And i probably bring this up to much but at Le Mans, no one has a better finishing record than Rotary Mazdas.

[Catnip]

Think of it like a two stroke, there are easier ways to do something, but you prove more when you take the challenge. And i probably bring this up to much but at Le Mans, no one has a better finishing record than Rotary Mazdas.

The only races I've watched with rotaries and pistons motors, the rotary cars dropped back about 5 places when the track went uphill

[EJ25RUN]

The only races I've watched with rotaries and pistons motors, the rotary cars dropped back about 5 places when the track went uphill

I'm not gonna respond cause you obviously haven't a clue, do you really not know anything about racing or are you just being ignorant?

[Elbow]

I'm not gonna respond cause you obviously haven't a clue, do you really not know anything about racing or are you just being ignorant?

lol my thought as well.

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I'm not gonna respond cause you obviously haven't a clue, do you really not know anything about racing or are you just being ignorant?

Like I said, the races I've seen with both rotary cars and piston cars, the rotaries always dropped back when they had to go uphill. The commentator (sp?) said something to the effect of, "if you pay attention when the track goes uphill, you will notice the rotary powered cars always lose a couple places."

I don't know what is ignorant about anything I said, except the plane crashing comment... but I was joking with that.

[Sport1.3]

The only races I've watched with rotaries and pistons motors, the rotary cars dropped back about 5 places when the track went uphill

oh burn! lol


they arent horrible in stock classes....i just have a personal grudge against them being a previous owner. Though i still like the cars

[Sport1.3]

Think of it like a two stroke, there are easier ways to do something, but you prove more when you take the challenge.

there are also hundreds of capable rotary builders, even in the state of GA (we are home to Downing after all)....though most will be found in the aviation field. Rotaries are very popular in small prop type personal aircrafts.

[Catnip]

Rotaries are very popular in small prop type personal aircrafts.

Is that why them bishes always crashin?

[1439/2000]

Sorry, but if there's 3 guys that can make a rotary reliable, that's not win.
IDC about no damn 7 bolts. BTW, bad mpg, high temps, and no reliability (except the few...) is not success.... in fact I think it's called inefficiency.

Don't run your mouth.

I get 32 mpg hwy, make 330whp with the stock turbo on a streetport, and haven't had any issues no matter how hard I beat on it.

That plus colonwrecking new DSM people that don't know who I am am is ****ing funny.

[Sport1.3]

Don't run your mouth.

I get 32 mpg hwy, make 330whp with the stock turbo on a streetport, and haven't had any issues no matter how hard I beat on it.

That plus colonwrecking new DSM people that don't know who I am am is ****ing funny.

have fun with your carbon lock see ya in 6 months









i kid, i wouldnt wish that on anyone

[Ronsam2006]

Sorry but yes it does. Very few mechanics are properly trained to work on a Rotary and not many diy mechanics are up to it either. A rotary is not a failed item from the factory like the 7 bolt dsm was.

The Renesis motor from the Rx-8 was definitely a fail. Sure the 7 bolt has its fualts, but which motor doesn't. The 6 bolt 4G63 however, was probably the best 4 cylinder turbo motor ever built.

[EJ25RUN]

The Renesis motor from the Rx-8 was definitely a fail. Sure the 7 bolt has its fualts, but which motor doesn't. The 6 bolt 4G63 however, was probably the best 4 cylinder turbo motor ever built.

I'll explain to you why it wasn;t a fail. Compare it to the N/A 13b that came before it. Compare how much worse the emissions were from that engine to the Renesis. Why else did it win so many awards.

i hate to quote wiki but......

These and other innovative technologies allow the Renesis to achieve 49% higher output and dramatically reduced fuel consumption and emissions (the RX-8 meets LEV-II). It won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the "2.5 to 3 litre" size award for 2003 and 2004, where it is considered a 2.60 L engine. Finally, it was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005.

The Renesis has also been adapted for a dual-fuel use, allowing it to run either on gasoline or hydrogen.


4G63 is a turbo motor so efficiency cant be compared to an N/A motor. And Honda's F22c is still the highest HP/Liter ever on that front.

[Ronsam2006]

I'll explain to you why it wasn;t a fail. Compare it to the N/A 13b that came before it. Compare how much worse the emissions were from that engine to the Renesis. Why else did it win so many awards.

i hate to quote wiki but......

These and other innovative technologies allow the Renesis to achieve 49% higher output and dramatically reduced fuel consumption and emissions (the RX-8 meets LEV-II). It won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the "2.5 to 3 litre" size award for 2003 and 2004, where it is considered a 2.60 L engine. Finally, it was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005.

The Renesis has also been adapted for a dual-fuel use, allowing it to run either on gasoline or hydrogen.


4G63 is a turbo motor so efficiency cant be compared to an N/A motor. And Honda's F22c is still the highest HP/Liter ever on that front.

So what are the NA Rx-7s good for? Saying they have low displacement along with low HP tied with horrible gas mileage?

[EJ25RUN]

So what are the NA Rx-7s good for? Saying they have low displacement along with low HP tied with horrible gas mileage?

Not necessarily. You add a 1 more rotor and have a NA motor with 450hp (20b) or add add a 2nd rotor (r26b) and you are north of 600hp. Lightly built and tuned obviously.

I guessing the way you see hp and performance, yes a 1.2 or a 1.3 N/A rotary are just not good enough.

[Catnip]

Not necessarily. You add a 1 more rotor and have a NA motor with 450hp (20b) or add add a 2nd rotor (r26b) and you are north of 600hp. Lightly built and tuned obviously.

I guessing the way you see hp and performance, yes a 1.2 or a 1.3 N/A rotary are just not good enough.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because well, I know nothing of rotaries , but aren't multiple rotor motors pretty large... like stuffing an inline 6 in or something?

[OneSlow5pt0]

Not necessarily. You add a 1 more rotor and have a NA motor with 450hp (20b) or add add a 2nd rotor (r26b) and you are north of 600hp. Lightly built and tuned obviously.

I guessing the way you see hp and performance, yes a 1.2 or a 1.3 N/A rotary are just not good enough.

12A get pretty good gas milage,but RX-7s were never built to be straight line car,which is why the rotary is good road course engine ebcause of the smooth tq curve throughout the RPMs........hell USDM FDs only ran low 14s high 13s stock.....these road course cars through and through