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    Yes, in the $/HP debate a Chevy V8 is usually always the best option. I think i read somewhere SCOOT will build you an R26B for $20,000+. Another thing about a rotary. If the right person builds it, it can last a very very long time under the toughest conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Another thing about a rotary. If the right person builds it, it can last a very very long time under the toughest conditions.
    Same with DSM's, that don't mean sht.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cgEvan
    Same with DSM's, that don't mean sht.
    Sorry but yes it does. Very few mechanics are properly trained to work on a Rotary and not many diy mechanics are up to it either. A rotary is not a failed item from the factory like the 7 bolt dsm was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Sorry but yes it does. Very few mechanics are properly trained to work on a Rotary and not many diy mechanics are up to it either. A rotary is not a failed item from the factory like the 7 bolt dsm was.
    Sorry, but if there's 3 guys that can make a rotary reliable, that's not win.
    IDC about no damn 7 bolts. BTW, bad mpg, high temps, and no reliability (except the few...) is not success.... in fact I think it's called inefficiency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgEvan
    Sorry, but if there's 3 guys that can make a rotary reliable, that's not win.
    IDC about no damn 7 bolts. BTW, bad mpg, high temps, and no reliability (except the few...) is not success.... in fact I think it's called inefficiency.
    Think of it like a two stroke, there are easier ways to do something, but you prove more when you take the challenge. And i probably bring this up to much but at Le Mans, no one has a better finishing record than Rotary Mazdas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Think of it like a two stroke, there are easier ways to do something, but you prove more when you take the challenge. And i probably bring this up to much but at Le Mans, no one has a better finishing record than Rotary Mazdas.

    The only races I've watched with rotaries and pistons motors, the rotary cars dropped back about 5 places when the track went uphill
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgEvan
    The only races I've watched with rotaries and pistons motors, the rotary cars dropped back about 5 places when the track went uphill
    I'm not gonna respond cause you obviously haven't a clue, do you really not know anything about racing or are you just being ignorant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgEvan
    The only races I've watched with rotaries and pistons motors, the rotary cars dropped back about 5 places when the track went uphill

    oh burn! lol


    they arent horrible in stock classes....i just have a personal grudge against them being a previous owner. Though i still like the cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Think of it like a two stroke, there are easier ways to do something, but you prove more when you take the challenge.

    there are also hundreds of capable rotary builders, even in the state of GA (we are home to Downing after all)....though most will be found in the aviation field. Rotaries are very popular in small prop type personal aircrafts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport1.3
    Rotaries are very popular in small prop type personal aircrafts.
    Is that why them bishes always crashin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgEvan
    Sorry, but if there's 3 guys that can make a rotary reliable, that's not win.
    IDC about no damn 7 bolts. BTW, bad mpg, high temps, and no reliability (except the few...) is not success.... in fact I think it's called inefficiency.
    Don't run your mouth.

    I get 32 mpg hwy, make 330whp with the stock turbo on a streetport, and haven't had any issues no matter how hard I beat on it.

    That plus colonwrecking new DSM people that don't know who I am am is ****ing funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    Don't run your mouth.

    I get 32 mpg hwy, make 330whp with the stock turbo on a streetport, and haven't had any issues no matter how hard I beat on it.

    That plus colonwrecking new DSM people that don't know who I am am is ****ing funny.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Sorry but yes it does. Very few mechanics are properly trained to work on a Rotary and not many diy mechanics are up to it either. A rotary is not a failed item from the factory like the 7 bolt dsm was.
    The Renesis motor from the Rx-8 was definitely a fail. Sure the 7 bolt has its fualts, but which motor doesn't. The 6 bolt 4G63 however, was probably the best 4 cylinder turbo motor ever built.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronsam2006
    The Renesis motor from the Rx-8 was definitely a fail. Sure the 7 bolt has its fualts, but which motor doesn't. The 6 bolt 4G63 however, was probably the best 4 cylinder turbo motor ever built.
    I'll explain to you why it wasn;t a fail. Compare it to the N/A 13b that came before it. Compare how much worse the emissions were from that engine to the Renesis. Why else did it win so many awards.

    i hate to quote wiki but......

    These and other innovative technologies allow the Renesis to achieve 49% higher output and dramatically reduced fuel consumption and emissions (the RX-8 meets LEV-II). It won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the "2.5 to 3 litre" size award for 2003 and 2004, where it is considered a 2.60 L engine. Finally, it was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005.

    The Renesis has also been adapted for a dual-fuel use, allowing it to run either on gasoline or hydrogen.


    4G63 is a turbo motor so efficiency cant be compared to an N/A motor. And Honda's F22c is still the highest HP/Liter ever on that front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    I'll explain to you why it wasn;t a fail. Compare it to the N/A 13b that came before it. Compare how much worse the emissions were from that engine to the Renesis. Why else did it win so many awards.

    i hate to quote wiki but......

    These and other innovative technologies allow the Renesis to achieve 49% higher output and dramatically reduced fuel consumption and emissions (the RX-8 meets LEV-II). It won International Engine of the Year and Best New Engine awards 2003 and also holds the "2.5 to 3 litre" size award for 2003 and 2004, where it is considered a 2.60 L engine. Finally, it was on the Ward's 10 Best Engines list for 2004 and 2005.

    The Renesis has also been adapted for a dual-fuel use, allowing it to run either on gasoline or hydrogen.


    4G63 is a turbo motor so efficiency cant be compared to an N/A motor. And Honda's F22c is still the highest HP/Liter ever on that front.
    So what are the NA Rx-7s good for? Saying they have low displacement along with low HP tied with horrible gas mileage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronsam2006
    So what are the NA Rx-7s good for? Saying they have low displacement along with low HP tied with horrible gas mileage?
    Not necessarily. You add a 1 more rotor and have a NA motor with 450hp (20b) or add add a 2nd rotor (r26b) and you are north of 600hp. Lightly built and tuned obviously.

    I guessing the way you see hp and performance, yes a 1.2 or a 1.3 N/A rotary are just not good enough.

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