Warner Robins bans sagging pants

[jew_boy]

So this city in Georgia has passed an ordinance to ban the sagging of pants.... wow... I want to challenge the ordinance just to piss off the city council... lawl. BTW, the mall is actually in Centerville, GA and not Warner Robins since I've been there. Epic fail.

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Sagging pants are a common sight at the Galleria Mall in Warner Robins, but many people believe it is a sign of disrespect.
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Tamara and Brandon Saunders were shopping at the mall with their uncle, John Saunders.

Brandon says, "it's not right." Tamara says she doesn't go after guys like that because she doesn't think its that attractive. John believes wearing sagging pants that show undergarments take away from what a person has to offer. He says it's a way to seek attention and people can get attention in other ways other than walking around with their clothes hanging off of them. Kim Moody has teenage daughters and she says her rule is boys with sagging pants can't come in the house until they buckle up and pull them up tight.

But, not everyone is on the same page. Randy Graham is a student at Fort Valley State and he says it is his right to dress how he chooses. He believes that how you dress does not define who you are.

Penalities for violating the ordinance include up to a $500 fine, 6 months in jail, or both.

City councilman John Williams proposed the ordinance which was in the works for several weeks. He hopes it will help set a better example for young children in the community.

Since Monday night's ruling, he says he has received almost 100 phone calls from people pleased with the decision. City Council member Clifford Holmes voted against the ordinance. He disagrees with the added responsibility to the police department and believes responsibility should fall on the parents.

[eViLMunkey]

wow the punishment is a little extreme, and what's their definition of sagging pants. That kinda leaves officers open to penalize on loose fit pants which can appear saggy. I have a feeling it wont pass completely or they will charge the wrong person and the ordinance will be dropped

[allmotoronly]

I don't see a problem with it. Pants are made to be worn on the hips, not down below your ass. It really looks stupid to me. It's not a matter of style, it's a matter of ignorance. Most of these kids walking around with their pants down below their ass don't know where the practice started. Sagging started in prison. Prisoners would sag their pants down low so they could have quick access if you know what I mean. Think about how much time people who sag waste pulling their pants back up or holding their pants when they have to walk up stairs or run...

[4dmin]

good i think it is f*cking stupid fashion and they deserve a fine for looking ridiculous - they should fine dumb asses w/ tags on their hats as well

i'm dying to know why you would want to do either anyway?

[yogi08]

I don't see a problem with it. Pants are made to be worn on the hips, not down below your ass. It really looks stupid to me. It's not a matter of style, it's a matter of ignorance. Most of these kids walking around with their pants down below their ass don't know where the practice started. Sagging started in prison. Prisoners would sag their pants down low so they could have quick access if you know what I mean. Think about how much time people who sag waste pulling their pants back up or holding their pants when they have to walk up stairs or run...

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[allmotoronly]

good i think it is f*cking stupid fashion and they deserve a fine for looking ridiculous - they should fine dumb asses w/ tags on their hats as well

i'm dying to know why you would want to do either anyway?

yea wtf is the point of leaving the tags on??? So you can wear it for a few days and then take it back so you can pay the power bill???

[b18hb]

Its a ordinance that will never seriously be enforced. I like it, but i don't agree with it. I think the idea is a good one, but I also think that it is stepping on liberties.

I always chuckle to myself when I see ppl waddling around with their pant waist closer to their knees than their waist lines. How do can you run? How can it possibly be comfortable?

[eViLMunkey]

No i agree w/ the fining those sagging their pants but what kind of enforcement discretion is given to the officers enforcing this ordinance to fine and/or arrest those w/ slightly baggy clothing and call it sagging? Other than sometimes I wear clothes that look like I'm sagging at times but I normally have a belt on and they are above the crack but they don't completely fit due to weight that I have lost and haven't gotten to a mall to buy new clothes (closest mall is 30 miles from me and I have to take a boat or plane to get to one so you can't pull I'm a lazy a$$ card) plus what non baggy/saggy clothes that I have are mainly for work/client related purposes since on my days off I don't give a crap to what I wear, it's my day off and I want to be comfortable.**end rant schpeil kinda **

[4dmin]

yea wtf is the point of leaving the tags on??? So you can wear it for a few days and then take it back so you can pay the power bill???

lol i know right... i was told by someone it is so they can keep the hat clean by grabbing it by the stickers ... umm wash your hands?

i going to make a generalization b/c it is totally true - most people who do this are black and black people are always wondering they people can't take them seriously, have a hard time w/ society in general, etc HELLO! no need to explain - look in the mirror.

[allmotoronly]

No i agree w/ the fining those sagging their pants but what kind of enforcement discretion is given to the officers enforcing this ordinance to fine and/or arrest those w/ slightly baggy clothing and call it sagging?

because there is a difference between baggy clothes and sagging. Sagging is when your pants are worn down below your hips. who cares how baggy someone's clothes are as long as their ass isn't showing...

[yogi08]

Im on the phone with my friend from WR ahahhah. she says its gay

[4dmin]

No i agree w/ the fining those sagging their pants but what kind of enforcement discretion is given to the officers enforcing this ordinance to fine and/or arrest those w/ slightly baggy clothing and call it sagging?

this law is not new and the general rule of thumb is showing undergarments

[eViLMunkey]

ok.. just would suck to forget to wear a belt one day stop by the mall to buy one and get arrested for it (your pants sagging)..

[allmotoronly]

lol i know right... i was told by someone it is so they can keep the hat clean by grabbing it by the stickers ... umm wash your hands?

i going to make a generalization b/c it is totally true - most people who do this are black and black people are always wondering they people can't take the seriously, have a hard time w/ society in general, etc HELLO! no need to explain - look in the mirror.

Seriously, If they wan't more respect and to be taken seriously, they should try to dress more appropriately. I know plenty of college educated black people, none of whom dress with their pants below their ass. They dress in a way that makes them look professional, which wins them all the respect they want.

[Capt._Ron]

I don't see a problem with it. Pants are made to be worn on the hips, not down below your ass. It really looks stupid to me. It's not a matter of style, it's a matter of ignorance. Most of these kids walking around with their pants down below their ass don't know where the practice started. Sagging started in prison. Prisoners would sag their pants down low so they could have quick access if you know what I mean. Think about how much time people who sag waste pulling their pants back up or holding their pants when they have to walk up stairs or run...

I dont think thats the case...... I think sagging started from impoverished areas where hand-me-down clothes were the only clothes available so if you were younger you got your older bigger brothers clothes which were too big and therefore were baggy or sagged. Not that i wear my pants below my ass but don't you people see that if the government can tell us how to dress then they can tell us what to say, what to read, what to believe.... Its a very slippery slope when you start taking personal freedoms away.

[allmotoronly]

ok.. just would suck to forget to wear a belt one day stop by the mall to buy one and get arrested for it (your pants sagging)..

Well if you buy pants that fit on your hips and not on your ass you will never have that problem. I've never had a problem with my pants sagging... Then again, I try on clothes before I buy them to make sure they fit.

[4dmin]

Seriously, If they wan't more respect and to be taken seriously, they should try to dress more appropriately. I know plenty of college educated black people, none of whom dress with their pants below their ass. They dress in a way that makes them look professional, which wins them all the respect they want.

it doesn't matter what color you are, what education you have ... everyone knows how pants are supposed to be warn. the problem here is idols and heros + bad parenting. young america is fed horrible fashion from bet, mtv, etc i'm sure if you asked our parents if they thought todays kids think showing their ass, gold teeth, and clothing with tags were cool - they would most certainly laugh.

[Thighs]

good. i hope it stays.

[4dmin]

I dont think thats the case...... I think sagging started from impoverished areas where hand-me-down clothes were the only clothes available so if you were younger you got your older bigger brothers clothes which were too big and therefore were baggy or sagged. Not that i wear my pants below my ass but don't you people see that if the government can tell us how to dress then they can tell us what to say, what to read, what to believe.... Its a very slippery slope when you start taking personal freedoms away.

what are you talking about "YOU PEOPLE" ?

honestly this is not infringement on personal freedoms, but imposing indecent exposure - would you like your children seeing teenagers and grown men's asses?

[allmotoronly]

good. i hope it stays.

Me too... My wife's dad lives in warner robins. Over the last 10 years or so it has become a pretty nice little town (compared to macon). It's good to see that they are trying to keep it nice and clean looking, and not letting it turn into macon lolololol.

People don't realize that 50 years ago showing your undergarments was considered indecent exposure...

[Thighs]

Me too... My wife's dad lives in warner robins. Over the last 10 years or so it has become a pretty nice little town (compared to macon). It's good to see that they are trying to keep it nice and clean looking, and not letting it turn into macon lolololol.

People don't realize that 50 years ago showing your undergarments was considered indecent exposure...

and i think in some cases, it should still be.

why the fvck would you BUY pants that dont fit anyways? fvcking ignorance.

[allmotoronly]

I dont think thats the case...... I think sagging started from impoverished areas where hand-me-down clothes were the only clothes available so if you were younger you got your older bigger brothers clothes which were too big and therefore were baggy or sagged.

They can still wear a belt. Ask your grandparents about hand-me-downs. If they were too big, they used a rope as a belt. People today have no sense of self worth like our grandparents did. Even if my grandparents' clothes were made from feed sacks when they were growing up, they wore them up on their hips and not down below their ass, and they were "impoverished".

[Thighs]

They can still wear a belt. Ask your grandparents about hand-me-downs. If they were too big, they used a rope as a belt. People today have no sense of self worth like our grandparents did. Even if my grandparents' clothes were made from feed sacks when they were growing up, they wore them up on their hips and not down below their ass, and they were "impoverished".

who cares? theres alot less of that now, and most people can at LEAST afford wal-mart prices... and ive seen pants of allllll sizes at goodwill and various thrift stores while t-shirt shopping lol.

[allmotoronly]

who cares? theres alot less of that now, and most people can at LEAST afford wal-mart prices... and ive seen pants of allllll sizes at goodwill and various thrift stores while t-shirt shopping lol.

very true

[BobbyFresco]

It's funny that most ppl automatically associate sagging with black ppl BUT that isn't always the case.
A. White kids sag their oversized pants also, as do Asians, etc. I don't think there's a single sect of ppl in society that doesn't have some kind of representation when it comes to sagging or some gross missuse of clothing.
B. I have seen just as many emo fuks sagging their jeans as the group some of you are pointing out.
C. Although I personally don't dress like that, it's not my place nor lawmakers or police to tell me or anyone how to dress. I mean think about it, what's next?

There are far more important things that lawmakers should be concerning themselves with.

[BobbyFresco]

I don't see any of you biitching about cleavage or thongs showing or any of that shiit..
Double standards much?

[allmotoronly]

It's funny that most ppl automatically associate sagging with black ppl BUT that isn't always the case.
A. White kids sag their oversized pants also, as do Asians, etc. I don't think there's a single sect of ppl in society that doesn't have some kind of representation when it comes to sagging or some gross missuse of clothing.
B. I have seen just as many emo fuks sagging their jeans as the group some of you are pointing out.
C. Although I personally don't dress like that, it's not my place nor lawmakers or police to tell me or anyone how to dress. I mean think about it, what's next?

There are far more important things that lawmakers should be concerning themselves with.

I have nothing against black people, nor did I say that only blacks sag. I see wiggers sagging all the time. I HATE HATE HATE wiggers. They piss me off worse than anything else. Why do they try to be something they are not???

And I agree that it's not police or lawmakers place to tell people how to dress. It is their place, however, to define what dress is considered indecent exposure. They call it UNDERwear for a reason. Like I already said, 50 years ago people would have never been able to get away with sagging. The police would have taken them to jail on the spot for indecent exposure.

[allmotoronly]

I don't see any of you biitching about cleavage or thongs showing or any of that shiit..
Double standards much?

I don't have a problem with a slight amount of cleavage showing. I would never let my wife leave the house with her underwear showing or her boobs hanging out like a hooker. I don't have double standards when it concerns appropriate dress.

[4dmin]

a) of course there are other races but majority is black and you can't dispute that. you shouldn't take offense to facts; if you do then you should do something to change the stupid fashion.

b) this may be true but again we are pointing out the majority which is how generalizations are made

c) again indecent exposure is a law and they are basically enforcing it - play devils advocate whats next people walking naked in public domain? i'm sorry but i don't want my children seeing grown adults or teenagers underwear, asses, or anything else.

i would agree there are far better things to be concerning themselves with but by discouraging the ignorant people who dress this way to change or move from their city i would assume this could have a direct impact on crime in their city.

[4dmin]

I don't have a problem with a slight amount of cleavage showing. I would never let my wife leave the house with her underwear showing or her boobs hanging out like a hooker. I don't have double standards when it concerns appropriate dress.

2x - there isn't a problem with tits hanging out of shirts and i would assume a girls thong would be included in this if she was wearing her pants on her KNEES

[BobbyFresco]

I don't have a problem with a slight amount of cleavage showing. I would never let my wife leave the house with her underwear showing or her boobs hanging out like a hooker. I don't have double standards when it concerns appropriate dress.

Wasn't directed to you but I'm willing to bet the same ppl biitching about sagging have no issues with women showing cleavage or thongs showing.

I'm sorry but on the scale of what would be considered "offensive and indecent", IMO flesh ranks a little above underwear.

Again not directed towards you but let's not be hypocritical about this.
One can not complain about one thing and condone the other.

[FlipKing]

I like the oridenance, but yeah, it is definitley stepping on people's freedom of expresson, next thing you know shirts will have to be tucked in, you will have to wear a belt and we will be back in highschool

[FlipKing]

BTW, I feel that the drug problem at Hoco should be a more important issue....

[BobbyFresco]

a) of course there are other races but majority is black and you can't dispute that. you shouldn't take offense to facts; if you do then you should do something to change the stupid fashion.

b) this may be true but again we are pointing out the majority which is how generalizations are made

c) again indecent exposure is a law and they are basically enforcing it - play devils advocate whats next people walking naked in public domain? i'm sorry but i don't want my children seeing grown adults or teenagers underwear, asses, or anything else.

i would agree there are far better things to be concerning themselves with but by discouraging the ignorant people who dress this way to change or move from their city i would assume this could have a direct impact on crime in their city.

Like I pointed out in my initial post, I do not dress like that, never have and never will. I have't taken offense to anything anyone has said, I just think it's laughable that some of you believe that it's primarily a black thing. You should get out more often.
And what can I, one person, do to change how ppl decide THEY want to dress or wear their clothing?

Also, I fail to understand how people blatanly ignore the fact that a woman wearing a shirt that shows half of her boobs hanging out is no different than a young black, white, hispanic, asian, indian, etc male wearing his pants down to his ass? Again, let's not be hypocritical.

[kpc2593]

they should fine dumb asses w/ tags on their hats as well

lmfao!!!...people with the tags...ohh man...you don't know how many people I wanted to slap with a hat that had a retail tag on it....stupid ass ****..

[FasTech]

Yeah I heard about this the other the day! Kinda extreme on the punishments alittle I think but will stop it hopefully.. I mean, I hate when people sag.. Really trashy and its just about everywhere you go, you have to see some guys underwear.

[BobbyFresco]

We'll see how well this ordinance holds up the first time someone is fined and chooses to hire a lawyer to fight it. I predict more taxpayer money being wasted when it goes all the way to the state supreme court or wherever.

[blackboi50]

all i know is when i see these fools i wanna pull their pants down and embarrass them.........

i did that to an underclassmen in high school and got ISS for a day ......1

[FlipKing]

Amen to the cour thing. Any lawyer worth anything can have it thrown out. If the judge doesnt throw it out, he rips up another freedom in the constitution.

[BobbyFresco]

Amen to the cour thing. Any lawyer worth anything can have it thrown out. If the judge doesnt throw it out, he rips up another freedom in the constitution.

Exactly. It's just a matter of time and chances are it won't be a black kid's parents that decide to take action.