i'de rather have a s2k than a gto.
i'de rather have a s2k than a gto.
I'd rather have a civic than a GTO. 6 liters producing like 330whp? ouch. :\ Talk about a bad tune. Can't be very good on gas either, bet it drives pump to pump.Originally Posted by VQ35 Star
Why don't you try this GTO out?
I get 18 in the City, 27-29 on the highway.
My car made 334 rwhp bone stock... with a pig rich tune and it was down about 4-5 degrees of timing of where it should be. Intake + Exhaust + Tune got me up to 371 rwhp... not to mention it makes over 330 rwtq from 2500 rpm - 5500 rpm
Dumbass import owners.
Not to bash or anything but he does have somewhat of a point. The new V6 Eclipse's made 270ishp hp with a 3.8L V6. I still don't think that those are great numbers for that size of a motor but eh. Just food for thought.Why don't you try this GTO out?
I get 18 in the City, 27-29 on the highway.
My car made 334 rwhp bone stock... with a pig rich tune and it was down about 4-5 degrees of timing of where it should be. Intake + Exhaust + Tune got me up to 371 rwhp... not to mention it makes over 330 rwtq from 2500 rpm - 5500 rpm
Dumbass import owners.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
It's got a tiny ass baby cam. Believe me they didn't WANT to go anywhere near all out. Simple proof of that is with a slightly bigger cam, and porting the heads you've got cars over 480 rwhp. That is about 580-600 hp at the motor, with a new cam and heads.
that is exactly my point
It's got a tiny ass baby cam. Believe me they didn't WANT to go anywhere near all out. Simple proof of that is with a slightly bigger cam, and porting the heads you've got cars over 480 rwhp. That is about 580-600 hp at the motor, with a new cam and heads.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
Fascinating
An '00 S2K with 6psi can run in the 270whp range pretty reliably with nothing but the turbo. That's 135hp/liter. That's approximately 2.2 Times as much HP/liter as you get with your GTO. Your tune and timing change for my turbo, seems fair, and I still have a massive power per liter difference...from a Honda. I could do it bone stock and really make you feel dumb about the effiency of that LS2, but considering GM can't be bothered to even continue it's DOHC V8 line any more, there's no point in bashing pushrods.Why don't you try this GTO out?
I get 18 in the City, 27-29 on the highway.
My car made 334 rwhp bone stock... with a pig rich tune and it was down about 4-5 degrees of timing of where it should be. Intake + Exhaust + Tune got me up to 371 rwhp... not to mention it makes over 330 rwtq from 2500 rpm - 5500 rpm
Dumbass import owners.
PS: You're right. Us import owners are dumb. You're one of the really dumb ones.
LOL. Here comes the HP / Litre comment.
And it's comments like this that really make me hate the scene some times. It's comments like this that keep the whole domestic vs. import dispute going. And while sometimes it can be fun and entertaining in this case it's just dumb and closed minded. The man made a perfectly legitemate claim that you simply can not refute with anything besides the usual LSX>VTEC
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
Since when did HP / Litre win ANY race?And it's comments like this that really make me hate the scene some times. It's comments like this that keep the whole domestic vs. import dispute going. And while sometimes it can be fun and entertaining in this case it's just dumb and closed minded. The man made a perfectly legitemate claim that you simply can not refute with anything besides the usual LSX>VTEC
It is the dumbest argument, ever.
I think you've missed my point. With exhaust and a tune i made 320awhp and tq. With my little 2 liter.. Yet your 6 liter v8 struggles to get 330whp off the bat.. That's ****ing pathetic. Pontiac needs to learn how to tune a v8 from the factory or the size of that engine is beyond pointless. Why the 6 liters to make 330whp..?Why don't you try this GTO out?
I get 18 in the City, 27-29 on the highway.
My car made 334 rwhp bone stock... with a pig rich tune and it was down about 4-5 degrees of timing of where it should be. Intake + Exhaust + Tune got me up to 371 rwhp... not to mention it makes over 330 rwtq from 2500 rpm - 5500 rpm
Dumbass import owners.
Ferrari uses a 4.3L V8 and hits around 450whp, But you're right... i guess i'm the dumb import owner that bought a car that out accelerates, out handles and out looks your heavy 6 liter V8 right off the showroom floor. Jackass. Take your fanboy ass to the a domestic site to reassure yourself of your retarded purchase.
Look at me look at me, i can go in a straight line. Stfu. *****.
Last edited by willum14pb; 07-05-2008 at 09:55 PM.
you want to put that "out accelerate" to the test?I think you've missed my point. With exhaust and a tune i made 320awhp and tq. With my little 2 liter.. Yet your 6 liter v8 struggles to get 330whp off the bat.. That's ****ing pathetic. Pontiac needs to learn how to tune a v8 from the factory or the size of that engine is beyond pointless. Why the 6 liters to make 330whp..?
Look at me look at me, i can go in a straight line. Stfu. *****.
Again. what is up with this "drag" I dont and never see any chains. I told you, you want to hook a chain up to your "race car", lemme know sweetie. Or...do you not want to get any dirt on that fine ride u own?you want to put that "out accelerate" to the test?
-Ant.
The Carbon Fibered R6
I would beat you with my 3rd gear out as it is. You're crazy to think you'd take me on a launch, and even more crazy to think you'd take me on the highway. I've got higher horsepower/tq/all wheel drive so i stick instantly on the launch.. I dont know why you would even contest me. I'd have to launch from 2k rpm and miss a shift for you to have a chance.you want to put that "out accelerate" to the test?
Last edited by willum14pb; 07-06-2008 at 12:31 AM.
LOL. Then back up your ****ing mouth and lets get to it.
You think AWD is the only thing that can hook?
I think you've missed my point. With exhaust and a tune i made 320awhp and tq. With my little 2 liter.. Yet your 6 liter v8 struggles to get 330whp off the bat.. That's ****ing pathetic. Pontiac needs to learn how to tune a v8 from the factory or the size of that engine is beyond pointless. Why the 6 liters to make 330whp..?
Look at me look at me, i can go in a straight line. Stfu. *****.
WOW... I guess you forgot your "little 2 liter" is TURBO? Guess what happens when you turbo the 6.0.... 550whp+ to your 320whp.... If you're going to make a comparison do it right...
On another note...
Have you guys even looked at the numbers?
S2000 = 200whp, 150 ft lbs tq (@6500RPM), EPA 18MPG city 25MPG Highway 2800LBs
GTO = 330 whp, 330 ft lbs tq (@3500RPM), EPA 17MPG city 25MPG Highway 3800LBs
How's that? More power(+), more weight(-), damn near same MPG(+), and faster(+)... So much for that poor engineering, low efficiency bull ****. Looks like the advantages out weigh the disadvantages to me... Don't even make me get into the comfort/interior of the two....
Wasn't the GTO discontinued before they were required to list "realistic" MPG numbers???
There's nothing unrealistic about it.. I average 19 in the city and over 27 on the highway.... but having a tune did help out the gas mileage as the motors run pig rich from the factory.Wasn't the GTO discontinued before they were required to list "realistic" MPG numbers???
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