If a GTO can't handle....*Stig kill story*

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Originally Posted by ThackerSS

Correction, I drug collins down the street by over 2 car lengths.

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I dont see a chain tied to Collins car....:thinking:

How about you come to my shop, we'll back vehicles up....use a chain..and I will show you what will drag the shìt out of piece of shìt. :goodjob::ninja:

-Ant.

edit: a fiery wreck is in your future. The world will be a better place.

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

i know for a fact that the 350z is stock for stock a better handling car. i have driven both, and i own a Z. the suspension on the GTO is crap, and its heavy. for straitline the GTO is a fast car b/c LS engines are great engines. no doubt. the s2000 will blow the doors off a GTO on a track. they handle awesome.

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The GTO is a heavier car, so for you to analyze that the GTO has a worse suspension than a 350z is preposterous. Your comparing a car with 200hp to a car with 400. So you criticize a car you know nothing about and can't drive worth a sh*t b/c you cant handle a car with power. Dont worry, there are MANY people like this....they bought 350z's.

-Ant.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyF

The GTO is a heavier car, so for you to analyze that the GTO has a worse suspension than a 350z is preposterous. Your comparing a car with 200hp to a car with 400. So you criticize a car you know nothing about and can't drive worth a sh*t b/c you cant handle a car with power. Dont worry, there are MANY people like this....they bought 350z's.

-Ant.

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WTF are you people talking about me for? all i was saying was that the Z & more importantly the s2000 are better handling cars, and that the gto is a straitline car. just a comparison. geez. you guys need a chill pill.

First off, wrong section jackass. Second off, who are you trying to convince that a GTO is actually a cool car? Us or yourself. I dont care if it has 400, 500, or even 600hp, its still ugly and reminds me of a fvcking oldsmobile or something. The interior is cheap and plasticy. Almost as cheesy as the 4th gen F-bodies... Yes it is a fast car, yes it handles decent, but it's the kind of car that every 45 year old trailer park living, keystone drinking, wife beatin' redneck dreams about. I am a big pontiac fan, and I like the 60's and early 70's GTO's, and have owned a few 60's and early 70's pontiac muscle cars, but I just couldn't see myself owning a new GTO unless they did a complete facelift. Pontiac took the easy route and just rebadged a car that another GM brand was already producing. They should have taken the time to design a car that had its roots in what the original GTO stood for. The RAM AIR IV GTO's were badass. However, they were two door cars, not four door. It was a purpose built straight line race car, not a heavy sedan. If pontiac wanted to attract more diehard classic GTO fans, they could do something like the new mustang, new charger, or the new camaro. I would rather see a retro style GTO than that ugly damn camaro Chevy's been promising for 5 years now. I'm not the biggest fan of the retro style cars, but the GTO would be a good candidate considering it was one of the most powerful muscle cars of its time.

^^^I moved it here from the kills forum where it really was in the wrong section.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9F223KOnKwI

> 350z

> s2000

Watch the end, with the stig driving and tell me again that this car can't handle.
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Originally Posted by ThackerSS

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9F223KOnKwI

> 350z

> s2000

Watch the end, with the stig driving and tell me again that this car can't handle.
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Why do you care how your car MAGAZINE HANDLES???? Don't you run around with DR's on your car and "I have no traction on street tires..." and :blah: :blah: . Right? A real driver can drive not only in a straight line, but in the twisty stuff....in a bulldozer.....a motorcycle....a boat.....anything they're put in front of, they can drive it. THAT'S a REAL "driver".

All this, "I beat Collins in a street race in some back alley somewhere, so now I'm a mack daddy driver...." is :gay: . You beat him. Good for you. I'm actually surprised you even showed up, so good for you. You're still being cocky as h3ll for doing basically nothing.

Cool buddy.....congrats on passing the 2ND GRADE.....:rolleyes: Big whoop! :rolleyes:

where is your stig?

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Originally Posted by VQ35 Star

where is your stig?

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He is busy outrunning the 350z by a huge margin over at the top gear racetrack.

GTO's are LAME!!!!!!






j/k

i dont care about that video. i still say on a road course, there are many cars that would out run you b/c they can handle better. miata/s2000/nismo z/ etc.

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

i dont care about that video. i still say on a road course, there are many cars that would out run you b/c they can handle better. miata/s2000/nismo z/ etc.

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Originally Posted by redGT

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what do you drive again? a ****in eclipse-non tubo. GTFO!!!!!

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Originally Posted by ThackerSS

He is busy outrunning the 350z by a huge margin over at the top gear racetrack.

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You have a really difficult time with this whole idea of balance, don't you? The GTO (Actually, not the GTO either, since the Monaro is indeed mechanically different, starting with the fact that it's not restricted by american safety standards or emissions standards) is an incredibly well designed car for what it is. The Australians built it as an all-purpose runner. The new Pontiac G8 and specifically the G8 GT are excellent examples of this as well, as is the Ford Falcon. It will handle well, go fast, stop quick, and look intensely generic while doing so.

The Monaro can go around the TGTT fast? I bet I can explain why. The TGTT is filled with short barrel-run straights that allow a car with a lot of oomph to jump up in speed quickly, the faster that you can go through the straight, the more seconds you will take off your time. As long as the car is reasonably equipped and can bring itself back down to it's cornering speed quickly, you can make the turns easily and be right back on the throttle. Does this mean that the Monaro can make the turn faster than an S2k? No. Does this mean, overall, that the Monaro can sweep an S2k by 7 seconds on the track? Yes. If you knew half a cent about actual racing, and not just street-drag racing from light to light, you'd have a better idea of why the GTO is rated so much faster. It's simply a faster car. This is akin to comparing a Corvette with a V6 Mustang. Both might be base models, but they aren't going to compete the same, period.

Anyways, calling any of the new GM performance cars domestic (Besides the Corvette) is absolute idiocy. The Monaro/GTO and the G8 GT both came from Aussieland. The two new Saturns, the Astra and the Sky, both came from european and japanese ideas, as did the Solstice. The Turbo-Ecotec motor powering the high-end Solstice/Sky was Euro designed ages and ages ago and has been around forever. Hyundai is more a domestic brand than GM's current marques are. Our ideas of import and domestic obviously need to be readjusted a bit, thanks to Globalization. Hell, who would think that GM would be the company leading the way in turbo-four cylinder two-door sports coupes with the Solstice and the Sky? Now we're looking at having the Genesis Coupe, the possibility of a new Nissan successor to the Silvia/S-body series, the Toyobaru, a re-thinking of the Miata line, and maybe even Ford and Chrysler will get on the band wagon.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser

You have a really difficult time with this whole idea of balance, don't you? The GTO (Actually, not the GTO either, since the Monaro is indeed mechanically different, starting with the fact that it's not restricted by american safety standards or emissions standards) is an incredibly well designed car for what it is. The Australians built it as an all-purpose runner. The new Pontiac G8 and specifically the G8 GT are excellent examples of this as well, as is the Ford Falcon. It will handle well, go fast, stop quick, and look intensely generic while doing so.

The Monaro can go around the TGTT fast? I bet I can explain why. The TGTT is filled with short barrel-run straights that allow a car with a lot of oomph to jump up in speed quickly, the faster that you can go through the straight, the more seconds you will take off your time. As long as the car is reasonably equipped and can bring itself back down to it's cornering speed quickly, you can make the turns easily and be right back on the throttle. Does this mean that the Monaro can make the turn faster than an S2k? No. Does this mean, overall, that the Monaro can sweep an S2k by 7 seconds on the track? Yes. If you knew half a cent about actual racing, and not just street-drag racing from light to light, you'd have a better idea of why the GTO is rated so much faster. It's simply a faster car. This is akin to comparing a Corvette with a V6 Mustang. Both might be base models, but they aren't going to compete the same, period.

Anyways, calling any of the new GM performance cars domestic (Besides the Corvette) is absolute idiocy. The Monaro/GTO and the G8 GT both came from Aussieland. The two new Saturns, the Astra and the Sky, both came from european and japanese ideas, as did the Solstice. The Turbo-Ecotec motor powering the high-end Solstice/Sky was Euro designed ages and ages ago and has been around forever. Hyundai is more a domestic brand than GM's current marques are. Our ideas of import and domestic obviously need to be readjusted a bit, thanks to Globalization. Hell, who would think that GM would be the company leading the way in turbo-four cylinder two-door sports coupes with the Solstice and the Sky? Now we're looking at having the Genesis Coupe, the possibility of a new Nissan successor to the Silvia/S-body series, the Toyobaru, a re-thinking of the Miata line, and maybe even Ford and Chrysler will get on the band wagon.

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Most intelligent post I've seen in a while:goodjob:

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Originally Posted by ThackerSS

The monaro shares the same suspension specs, brake sizes, "trans gearing" and just about everything with the LS2 GTO aside from the body paneling and minor, MINOR interior details.

You guys are absolutely retarded to think just because its based on a muscle car.. it won't drag a 350 slow or a s2slow around any medium to full size road course.

Congratulations, you guys own a car that will own my car in autox.... LOL. You have the equivalent of a gocart.

And seriously, before you guys post how about posting cold hard facts.. not made up bull****.

That trans gearing comment REALLY pissed me off because you are so clueless about that its ridiculous. I bet you didn't know the GTO, Camaro, Corvette, 03-04 Cobra, Viper, and various other cars share the exact same Tremec based T-56 transmission? There are very minor differences between all those cars... the biggest being different geared 5th and six gears.... and of course input shafts, bell housings etc.

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I thought they were the exact same. If so, why the differences? You contradicted yourself. Next time you want to make a point, base it on some actual information.

is thacker reallly banned? LOL!

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

what do you drive again? a ****in eclipse-non tubo. GTFO!!!!!

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cause god knows that no car measures up to your almighty z think about this sh!t for brains your power to weight ratio is not that much better than my little 205 hp car gtfo here stupid fanboy. I'd rather drive a slow pos non turbo car and know it than think im driving the greatest sports car known to man.

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Originally Posted by redGT

cause god knows that no car measures up to your almighty z think about this sh!t for brains your power to weight ratio is not that much better than my little 205 hp car gtfo here stupid fanboy. I'd rather drive a slow pos non turbo car and know it than think im driving the greatest sports car known to man.

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see here is where your wrong and dumb. I DO NOT BELIEVE MY CAR IS THE GREATEST SPORTS CAR EVER!!!!! i may act like it, but thats b/c i love it soo much, and people on the site love to hate on it. for the money-brand new- the 350Z is a great all around sports car. as far as "sh!t for brains" goes, lets do the math:
1. i have a good job-you don't even have a job right? +1 point to me
2. i have a nicer car + 1 point to me
3. i dont drive an eclipse with painted stock wheels.lol + 2 points to me
total points= 4 for me-0 for you.

have a nice day:goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

see here is where your wrong and dumb. I DO NOT BELIEVE MY CAR IS THE GREATEST SPORTS CAR EVER!!!!! i may act like it, but thats b/c i love it soo much, and people on the site love to hate on it. for the money-brand new- the 350Z is a great all around sports car. as far as "sh!t for brains" goes, lets do the math:
1. i have a good job-you don't even have a job right? +1 point to me
2. i have a nicer car + 1 point to me
3. i dont drive an eclipse with painted stock wheels.lol + 2 points to me
total points= 4 for me-0 for you.

have a nice day:goodjob:

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thats just itthough YOU ACT LIKE IT IS. i have yet to see you post a response to anythimg related to the 350 z that didnt translate to anything less than stellar.

to respond to your four point lead

i acttually got another job yesterday
yea i may drive an eclipse with painted wheels but att least i dont tote the thing around like the greatest car ever made

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

see here is where your wrong and dumb. I DO NOT BELIEVE MY CAR IS THE GREATEST SPORTS CAR EVER!!!!! i may act like it, but thats b/c i love it soo much, and people on the site love to hate on it. for the money-brand new- the 350Z is a great all around sports car. as far as "sh!t for brains" goes, lets do the math:
1. i have a good job-you don't even have a job right? +1 point to me
2. i have a nicer car + 1 point to me
3. i dont drive an eclipse with painted stock wheels.lol + 2 points to me
total points= 4 for me-0 for you.

have a nice day:goodjob:

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while im finding this lil battle between you and redgt fun let me clarify one thing 350z's are not sports cars in most folks eyes other then the owners now when you buy that lambo or z06 you know something that produces HP torque and is looked at as a sports car not a tuner toy then please claim it.

and Allan stop arguin with fan boys and go buy a PS3 dammit.



mahalo

Tank

oh and for fawk sakes please ban thacker gracious lol

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

see here is where your wrong and dumb. I DO NOT BELIEVE MY CAR IS THE GREATEST SPORTS CAR EVER!!!!! i may act like it, but thats b/c i love it soo much, and people on the site love to hate on it. for the money-brand new- the 350Z is a great all around sports car. as far as "sh!t for brains" goes, lets do the math:
1. i have a good job-you don't even have a job right? +1 point to me
2. i have a nicer car + 1 point to me
3. i dont drive an eclipse with painted stock wheels.lol + 2 points to me
total points= 4 for me-0 for you.

have a nice day:goodjob:

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dude you bought some nasty @$$ heavy Stern st-1 rims.... your not that far ahead...

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

I DO NOT BELIEVE MY CAR IS THE GREATEST SPORTS CAR EVER!!!!! i may act like it

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...lolol

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

but thats b/c i love it soo much, and people on the site love to hate on it. for the money-brand new- the 350Z is a great all around sports car. as far as "sh!t for brains" goes, lets do the math:

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I dont love to hate on it. I think it is over rated. Period. O wait...that has already been proven.

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

for the money-brand new- the 350Z is a great all around sports car. as far as "sh!t for brains" goes, lets do the math:

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I believe honestly, the SRT-4 is one of the better deals out there.

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

1. i have a good job-you don't even have a job right? +1 point to me
2. i have a nicer car + 1 point to me
3. i dont drive an eclipse with painted stock wheels.lol + 2 points to me
total points= 4 for me-0 for you.

have a nice day:goodjob:

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1. I guess you THINKING you know some1 makes you cool?:thinking:
2. I didnt know opinions were actual facts.
3. why make 2 points about his car? lol I had painted rims, many people do. Mine will be soon too. You going to be a hard ass and make fun of my truck too Tough Guy?

Die in Hell. :goodjob:

-Ant.

then stop portraying that u drive the "ultimate race car".

lol good for you to come of the wood work tank.


ps ia on my cell ftw

sean.......just stfu lol. It's just a Z some like it some don't just like any other car.

Dont get me wrong. Personally, I like the Z/G. But I mean...stop acting like its a Ferrari.

-Ant.

whos acting like it's a ferrari? except for maybe sean lol. hes prob just really really proud of his car. but pride gets the best of us sometimes i guess.
I personally got it bc i love nissan/the history from the fairlady.

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Originally Posted by VQ35 Star

whos acting like it's a ferrari? except for maybe sean lol. hes prob just really really proud of his car. but pride gets the best of us sometimes i guess.
I personally got it bc i love nissan/the history from the fairlady.

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Not you, ya c0ck sukin motha fuka. lol Just messin with u man. My statement wasnt directed at you. I think the car is nice just...I like a back seat.

-Ant.

I think you're also forgetting the massive horsepower difference that gives the GTO some edge on the straights ;)

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Originally Posted by ThackerSS

You guys are absolutely retarded to think just because its based on a muscle car.. it won't drag a 350 slow or a s2slow around any medium to full size road course.

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you are stupid to think those are good names to make fun of the 350z and the s2000.


they look or sound nothing like them.

bad

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Originally Posted by Dirty Mech.

dude you bought some nasty @$$ heavy Stern st-1 rims.... your not that far ahead...

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OHHH so THAT was nissan seans car at the varsity.. gotcha.

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Originally Posted by Nissan Sean

see here is where your wrong and dumb. I DO NOT BELIEVE MY CAR IS THE GREATEST SPORTS CAR EVER!!!!! i may act like it, but thats b/c i love it soo much, and people on the site love to hate on it. for the money-brand new- the 350Z is a great all around sports car. as far as "sh!t for brains" goes, lets do the math:
1. i have a good job-you don't even have a job right? +1 point to me
2. i have a nicer car + 1 point to me
3. i dont drive an eclipse with painted stock wheels.lol + 2 points to me
total points= 4 for me-0 for you.

have a nice day:goodjob:

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I agree, people do like to hate the Z for no reason. But in eclipse dudes defense..

1. He has an eclipse.. whats the point of buying wheels for it..? It's not like he needs big rims for a nice offset to handle all that front wheel drive horsepower... Am i right? If i were him i'd have painted my stock rims too. Look at me, i got stock painted rims, and they handl my 400AWHP just fine.. gonna make fun of my stock painted rims too? I blow the doors off an F430, but i guess since i got stock painted rims my ****s riccccce.

2. Cool, you got a nicer car than an eclipse, not everyones as fortunate to land a good job, he's doing his best, don't be a douche bag, he didnt bring your personal **** into it.

3. It's people like you that give Z owners a bad name. I mean kayfuNk was just joking when he was ****ing with people, but at least he wasn't a douche bag. People love to hate the Z more than normal because most of their owners are douche bags.. :cough:

I'm sure you're probably a nice guy in person.. but stop boasting on the forums about your great job which probably only pays you $50k a year and how awesome your stock Z is.


p.s. My **** is bigger. +95 points.


me-95 you-0

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Originally Posted by willum14pb

I agree, people do like to hate the Z for no reason. But in eclipse dudes defense..

1. He has an eclipse.. whats the point of buying wheels for it..? It's not like he needs big rims for a nice offset to handle all that front wheel drive horsepower... Am i right? If i were him i'd have painted my stock rims too. Look at me, i got stock painted rims, and they handl my 400AWHP just fine.. gonna make fun of my stock painted rims too? I blow the doors off an F430, but i guess since i got stock painted rims my ****s riccccce.

2. Cool, you got a nicer car than an eclipse, not everyones as fortunate to land a good job, he's doing his best, don't be a douche bag, he didnt bring your personal **** into it.

3. It's people like you that give Z owners a bad name. I mean kayfuNk was just joking when he was ****ing with people, but at least he wasn't a douche bag. People love to hate the Z more than normal because most of their owners are douche bags.. :cough:

I'm sure you're probably a nice guy in person.. but stop boasting on the forums about your great job which probably only pays you $50k a year and how awesome your stock Z is.


p.s. My **** is bigger. +95 points.


me-95 you-0

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How bout if you don't have a good paying job you either don't live outside your means and invest a ton of money in your car which you will see no financial return on... OR... save your money and buy the nicer stuff later on when you can afford it instead of rushing it and making it look crappy.



I mean just some food for thought, i know it may be hard to comprehend.

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Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg

How bout if you don't have a good paying job you either don't live outside your means and invest a ton of money in your car which you will see no financial return on... OR... save your money and buy the nicer stuff later on when you can afford it instead of rushing it and making it look crappy.



I mean just some food for thought, i know it may be hard to comprehend.

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Also a good point ;)

lol at this thread where is my race with the s2k?

i'de rather have a s2k than a gto.

I'd rather have a Ferrari then a civic

well i'de rather have an ice cream truck than a semi truck. what what now.!