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Einstein finished school.
In 1894, when Einstein was fifteen, his father's business failed, and the Einstein family moved to Italy, first to Milan and then, after a few months, to Pavia. During this time, Einstein wrote his first scientific work, "The Investigation of the State of Aether in Magnetic Fields".[9] Einstein had been left behind in Munich to finish high school, but in the spring of 1895, he withdrew to join his family in Pavia, convincing the school to let him go by using a doctor's note
He didn't finish high school. But he did finish college.
Not trying to argue just citing my source
Albert Einstein was born at Ulm, in Württemberg, Germany, on March 14, 1879. Six weeks later the family moved to Munich, where he later on began his schooling at the Luitpold Gymnasium. Later, they moved to Italy and Albert continued his education at Aarau, Switzerland and in 1896 he entered the Swiss Federal Polytechnic School in Zurich to be trained as a teacher in physics and mathematics. In 1901, the year he gained his diploma, he acquired Swiss citizenship and, as he was unable to find a teaching post, he accepted a position as technical assistant in the Swiss Patent Office. In 1905 he obtained his doctor's degree.
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Oh I though you meant high school, LOL
lmao @ IOWA test. Same shyt. Tests like these do not necessarily reflect how smart you are, just if you know what you should know at your given grade level.
My point is that I don't think standardized test scores reflect intelligence well. There are so many factors involved when it comes to taking tests like that (ie. test anxiety, test taking skills) that its I don't think its a fair assessment.
Same thing with college; my homegirl that dropped out of HS and got her GED is balling out of control. She found something she can excel at, which obviously wasn't school. Meanwhile, my ass is still a broke student. I do really well in school, but it really doesn't say shyt about who is smarter.
10 years from now:
Her- lots of real estate and money saved
Me- Looking for job w/ mad college loans.
Sure, I've got crazy skills in the lab and I can fvck up some biochemistry, but that shyt ain't payin the bills. yet.
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Some Of The Stupidest People I Have Met In My Life Were While I Was In College, And I'd Like To Think I Went To A Relatively "Prestigious" University [Virginia Tech]. IMO, Academics In Terms Of Receiving Good Grades And Scoring High On Tests Is Nothing More Than Memory Recall And The Ability To Regurgitate Knowledge. I'd Say Academics Is Definitely A Form Of Intelligence But The Term Encompasses Far More Than Just That. Having The Capacity To Learn Can Be In Many Forms Beyond Book-Knowledge.
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That must have taken a while to write, whats with capitalizing the first letter? lol
Personally, I think someone is intelligent when they can figure out a solution to a problem through their own knowledge and reasoning, versus regurgitating **** they might have memorized in order to solve it. Someone whos open minded, willing to try new things, willing to take risk, thats intelligence imo.
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isnt ga ranked 48th in the country in education? thats is all
correct it is the powerhouse of the cell where aerobic metabolism takes place. myosin heavy chain type 1 fibers aka slow twitch fibers (ones recruited first and for endurance activity) have the highest amount of mitochondria do to the fact they rely on oxygen to help make atp and atp is used in the myoisn head coupling to created torque (the only reason i paid attention in neuromuscular plasticity, car terms people!) aka force/power. i could go on but that is the importance of mitochondria in slow twitch fibers in a nut shell.
more affluent areas have better school IMO. rich ppl care more about education standards then ppl less well off.
word. my parents lived in atl we lived in smokerise golf and country club but that was zoned in the Tucker HS district, needless to say they put my a$$ in private school.
Yeah private school, paid for segregation!
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I dont even know why ur posting in this thread...
Ur asian...
Which means ya'll come naturally smart right off the boat in Math and Science...
Hell all my tutors are asians...
the only bad thing ya'll are at is driving in Atl and shopping in AnF....
Do love ur women tho ....
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Anyone who thinks there is a clear and universally accepted definition lacks the understanding of what intelligence truly is. Academics may not define one's intelligence, however, they are a definite sign of an existing intelligence. For instance, the person may not have been able to slack off in class and get decent grades because of good test scores, yet they possessed the intelligence to realize what it would take for them to achieve what they did.
For me, intelligence is the ability to ultimately realize and utilize your abilities to maximize your quality of life. Think of the playboy bunnies... Do you truly think they are unintelligent? They have realized a career path that has allowed them an amazing quality of life while many mislead individuals believe THEY are the intelligent ones for becoming a desk jockey. Which would you choose? Workaholic desk jockey for mediocre pay, or ditsy girl who gets paid the same (or even less money) to do what they do best, and have the freedom they have?
Some people are good at the desk jockey type job, don't get me wrong. But if you think that only billionaires and executive workaholics are the only intelligent ones in the world, you MAY not be so intelligent yourself. In fact, I would rather be poor and enjoy life than work all day everyday for huge amounts of money to spend on things I wont have time to enjoy.
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it's a myth that Einstein failed math. stanford and harvard b-school graduates might not all be millionaires or drive ferraris, but they are living very very comfortable lives. great academics doesn't define intelligence, nor does intelligence always result in great academics, but I would say there is a high correlation between the two. For every high school drop out that made it big, there's at least 10 others that didnt and are working dead end jobs. education is THE surest way to a future.
btw, georgia, at least dekalb, public high schools suck. I slept through my classes and studied for exams during study hall and managed a 4+gpa. That gave me a very skewed representation of what type of work ethic it takes to succeed in the real world. moral of the story: georgia high schools suck, don't be satisfied with doing well in a ****ty public school, develop a good work habit, especially if you want to obtain an advanced degree of some sort.
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You don't mean shiit. Like everyone has said. Later, QD.
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On different levels; yes. I graduated HS with a 3.75 GPA. Took the SAT in only the 9th grade and scored a 1560/1600. Went to college and graduated Dean's List with 4.0 in computers. That's my educational background. I am, and I'm sure I can be vouched for by many on here, quite intelligent. My posts speak for my education as well. I even talk, most of the time, the same way I type. I play Jeopardy with other folks at the house and they wonder not only why I don't go on the show, but why and how I know most of the answers on the show. I don't attribute all my knowledge to schooling though. A lot of it is through memory retention. I've been watching quiz shows and doing crossword puzzles since I can remember. SO that part helped me with my intelligence level without schooling.
I believe, wholeheartedly, that good grades equals intelligence. But, on the other side of the fence, I don't believe (all the time) that bad grades equals stupidity. There are lots of intelligent people out there that DO NOT do well in test situations or in school period. Doesn't mean they aren't intelligent or smart. Just means they haven't applied themselves where it really does matter. In a school environment.
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Gotta go to work but there have been about 5 presidents that did not go to college. Off the top of my head Truman was one but I'm not sure if you could get away with that any more.
There are many levels of intelligence. Just because you pass a test does not make you any smarter than Joe Blow down the street, it just shows you retain information well.
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Don't be so sure.
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Honestly, and this is not intended as an insult, but that's really just a standard cop out reply for those who... well aren't smart. Tests, and especially standardized ones above the grade school level, measure not only how well you retain info (or how much time you spend memorizing) but also how well you integrate new information with what you have and how well you apply everything, often under time constraints. I don't know about what others may think what general intelligence is, but if someone is able to learn new information and apply that information quicker than the next person, I'd say the former is smarter than the latter. Of course, like I said, there's alot of other factors that decide how well you do on a test, which is why I prefer to think that there's only a correlation between academic performance and intelligence, nothing more.There are many levels of intelligence. Just because you pass a test does not make you any smarter than Joe Blow down the street, it just shows you retain information well.
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we had this convo here a long time ago, and what i said then still stands. there are diff types of intelligence, some of it is book smarts, some of it is street smarts. always better to have a healthy mix of both, and obviously, the smarter you are in both areas, the smarter you're going to be overall.
oh and one more thing, book smarts can be tested for (obviously) where as it's much harder to test for common sense and street smarts. due to that, maybe we place too much emphasis on grades and standardized test scores.
But you also have to know that this country is stupider then the world. We have the most highest numbers of dropouts and they all work for some company making minimum wage. When you look at China, Indian, and other major upcoming countries these kids are amazing. Chess, playing 3 diff types of instrument, studying 4 hours a day vs we love football, going out to the mall, and hanging out.
I don't really buy into the book smarts vs street smarts thing that much, mainly because I don't think they're that mutually exclusive (except in extreme cases); ie. if the "street smart" person can think logically and fast on his toes in practical situations, I'd say he can very much be "book smart" and do well in abstract thinking tests as well (and most likely he probably is).
edit: also, as an addendum, that's based on my take of street smart, I have a feeling that many equate street smart more with EQ and the ability to perceive and deal with other people.
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i never said they're mutually exclusive though...thought i was pretty clear in stating that most ppl have both to some degree, and the more you have of both, the smarter you are overall. but obviously there are those obsessed with one or the other (more commonly book smarts) and will focus on that one area and tend to end up more well versed in one area and not the other.
lol, d@mn son.
I'll take street smarts and common sense over book smarts anyday. But that's just me.
seriously, and this guy called me a fake azn the other day
It's true. They even did a study between the American lifestye of a High School teenager vs China, India, and other coutries teenages. We suck basically. We have sucumb to where it matter about sports only. It's sad and ontop of our dropout are incredibly high.
AND STFU SHAGTHECARPET YOU STILL A FAKE AZN!!!
i only shag your mother's carpet...ok so the only part isn't true
Yea I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I was merely stating that when talking about book smarts vs common sense, people are always quick to see the two as very polar and incongruent things, as evident by Ran's post of choosing one over the other.
Kids in Asia spend so much more time studying due to competition. I think america's primary and secondary education systems need to step it up, stop cuddling kids and giving everyone As in elementary school.
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you are nasty NASTY!!! DIRTY WEIRD NON AZN MAN!!
The thread topic seemed to be steered towards one preference over the other so I responded appropriately.
I do believe that a balance of both is necessary and that, in one way or another, both "divisions" of logic play into the other. For instance, you can't get book smart without knowing how to get to school, but you can't balance your checkbook without taking a math class.
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