Academics = Intelligence?
Just reading through the thread with the Autumn chick and she was explaining how she tested better than 95% of GA students. This topic is no knock to her but I am interested to know what peoples thoughts are on the subject. Do good grades and high test scores translate to intelligence?
I'll share my experience after a few replies, people tend to think I'm well versed in academics when honestly I barely graduated high school with a 1.9gpa.
eh, i have a 3.3
GPA and Standardize Testing doesn't mean ish.
PS... its 99% better than GA students.
I graduated high school with a 2.4gpa...and I got a 1180 sat score...neither of which is something to brag about...But I'm only 21 and I'm a licensed commercial real estate agent and a personal trainer..and a "college dropout"... and I had a 1.3 gpa @ valdosta state..so no I don't think grades and test scores translate to intelligence..
they don't mean ish. like i said.
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no, I believe there are different types of intelligence.
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My dad never made it through school and has trouble knowing parts of speech and such, but I would never say anything bad about that or say he's not smart. He knows how to do things I would never understand and that's one reason I look up to him with so much admiration.
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common sense goes a long ways....
It does but good grades opens a lot of doors. Specialized professions almost require a good academic history, I've never known a doctor or lawyer prone to flunking classes which is why I push my son to do well in school... at the least it gives that little extra push.
That's awesome you are a caring father. I mean my dad, didn't realize I was a senior until 3 months before graduation. LOL. Just don't push your son too much. Maybe doing more harm, than good.
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Amazingly he likes school and isn't looking forward to the summerSo I don't have to push him too much but my dad was similar to yours.. I remember coming home with 3 F's on a report card and he didnt notice.
I agree with you 100%, but I think that school just simply isn't for some people(myself included). But everything requires SOME kind of research/studying...even in retail/sales you've gotta brush up on your product and know your stuff..so it really depends on what you want to do in life. Do I wish I was still in school? Absolutely...But I like both of my professions, and I feel like I do them both rather well from a profitability stand point. But they are also things I could be doing while attending college..I'd just have to take less classes per semester.
I push my younger brother to do well in school, b/c it will open more doors for him. I've had many job opportunities but I didn't get it b/c I didn't have the degree and someone else did. ...just my
very true, but book smarts without common sense will only get you so far in my opinion.
That's always nice. I hope when I do have kids, they'll like school. Wow, I would have gotten my butt whipped for 3 F's. LOL They were strict, but when I got to high school, he seemed to forget what grade I was in. LOLAmazingly he likes school and isn't looking forward to the summer
I agree with this. I had all the book smarts, but wasn't up to par on common sense..lol Now, with all the schooling away from me, Common sense hit me hard. You can ask me all these math problems, find the error in this sentence, and Ill be lost, but ask me how to shot a grade on a yard, or how to run a tractor/ uniloader, or something about cars......And I can tell you without any problems.....LOL
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Well, Ill chime in with my h/s story. Graduated with a perfect 4.0, made a 1350 on SAT, ranked number 9 out of 220 students in my class, and dual seal diploma. Made it to college, dropped out two months in to it. Now, I am a service tech for a Chevrolet dealership, and am co-owner of my grading/landscaping business. I say that the tests don't mean anything, except who studied harder, or who cheats better. $.02
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grades show that you have enough sense to take care of **** that matters, so i'd say yes.
intelligence means nothing when you couple it with ignorance.
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I do not believe that good grades mean that you are intelligent.
Some of the most intelligent most successfull people barely made it out of high school. I graduated high school with a 2.2. I have a 3.2 in college. I believe that work ethic also have a lot to do with intelligent.
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I agree... I consider myself pretty academic, and fairly intelligent (i hope), however, among the folks around me in the academic setting, many of them don't know shyt, except for how to take tests (ie, what to study for, have copies of old tests, etc).
intelligence should not be represented by degrees or GPAs, but rather by communication skills, reasoning skills, etc... I've met some really academically accomplished people, but talking to them is like talking to a brick wall. Intelligence to me means being able to hold an interesting conversation (about things other than tila tequila or what's on E! network), and also, being able to hold your own in an intelligent debate without getting flustered.
I find that the most intelligent people I've met have not necessarily been through crazy amounts of school, but they do tend to be well read. I think reading is the key to being intelligent, and you don't have to be in school to read, obviously. Not that academics aren't smart; especially in the maths and sciences, there are BRILLIANT people. You kind of have to be a nerd if you are in it for this long.
Oh and btw, if you're talking about the Georgia high school graduation test, that shyt is like made for 8th graders- seriously. If you do poorly on the that test, you probably should have never made it out of middle school. The high school I went to had like a 99% pass rate or something like that. They ask shyt like "what is a cell" and also really simple math problems (addition, multiplication) - that should tell you how easy it is.
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Eh, it can define work ethic but not so much intelligence. All of my teachers know I'm smart but I have like a 2.7, but I did get a 1940 on the SAT. It just depends on how you look at it, the valedictorians will always be intelligent but it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be more successful over time. The public school system is pretty much bull**** anyway, any dumbass football player will get good grades in high school if they have the right teachers.
When did they change it from 1600= perfect?
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Some people are book smart and some are street smart like I...
I know people that went to college and now dont even use their degree to make A LOT of money...
Besides when is the next time anyone is gonna use the word MITOCHONDRIA or have to explain to their boss what the French Indian War was about ????????
I hate GPC...
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mitochondria: important because this is where your body makes energy! you should know what your body is about.
french n indian war may seem useless, but history is important because if ya dont learn it, yer doomed to repeat it (isn't that what they say?). History has a lot to do with current politics and global issues. Nothing you learn is useless, my friend!
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i live my life one license suspension at a time-- and for that 6 months or more, i still drive.
"It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas." -George W. Bush
mitochondria: important because this is where your body makes energy! you should know what your body is about.
french n indian war may seem useless, but history is important because if ya dont learn it, yer doomed to repeat it (isn't that what they say?). History has a lot to do with current politics and global issues. Nothing you learn is useless, my friend!
lol you missed my point...
Like for instance my major is Business/Marketing and management...
Mitochondria falls in this category bc ?????????????????????????
As well as French Indian War ???????????
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I hate GPC .... once again
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correct it is the powerhouse of the cell where aerobic metabolism takes place. myosin heavy chain type 1 fibers aka slow twitch fibers (ones recruited first and for endurance activity) have the highest amount of mitochondria do to the fact they rely on oxygen to help make atp and atp is used in the myoisn head coupling to created torque (the only reason i paid attention in neuromuscular plasticity, car terms people!) aka force/power. i could go on but that is the importance of mitochondria in slow twitch fibers in a nut shell.
its now out of 2400. it makes all us old schoolers look retarded with our comparatively low scores.
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i live my life one license suspension at a time-- and for that 6 months or more, i still drive.
"It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas." -George W. Bush
True story, I made a 1350 out of 1600, and was proud...lol now the 2400 hurts my feelings.
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georgia high school graduation test? i've never taken & never will. my old school had a 100 % passing rate. doesn't mean everyone there is smart.
i'm talking about the CRCT & IOWA Test. Does it really matter? No.
I agree with others. Many people have different intelligences. Like my dad for example, he quit high school his 10th grade year. He however reads alot. Any computer problem you may have? He can do it. Any problem with an older car? He can fix it. Any problem with lawn equipment? He can fix it. He is a very smart man to me.
I also think my sister is very intelligent (book wise, and other). She dropped and got her GED. She has no people skills, that's why she can't be in school. She tends to pick fights with anyone and everyone.
Most intelligent (and i don't mean a certain thing... but like Einstein complex) can't stand to be in a classroom with normal people. Did Einstein have ADD? Yes. I think most of the problem was that the teachers couldn't understand his intellect.
I might not be the brightest star, but I pick up on things fast. I am very intelligent in that way. I might not know how to fix a car, but I sure can do a math problem. I have book smarts. And book smarts can take you a long way.
who cares if any of this is mispelled or has bad grammar... im tired.
Funny thing is GA is NOT A FAWKING STATE TO BE PROUD OF IN TERMS OF PRIMARY AND SECONDARY EDUCATION. It's 2nd lowest amongst the nation and the top one is well Mississippi. Sorry nothing to be proud of. Colleges well the only ones are Emory and Tech but even Tech I scratch my head at that.
You just hush your trap. LOL
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Sorry Im from Cali, and where GA is so backward you guys want to ban evolution from the curriculum? That's just insane. Ya I'm a Christian and I dont believe in evolution but people all around the world believe in it so why take two steps back?
Oh and book smarts doesnt take you along way. Have you ever seen how many Harvard and Stanford kids come out and yet they work at some dead end jobs? This world revolves around connections people. Either you parents are filthy rich, you family has a rich hertiage knowing top business people, or you work from the bottom of the corporate bucket and work your way up which is insane on how much work you need to do. Sorry book smart is nothing great.
How do you think they got into Harvard and Stanford? Please.
I know many people who are book smart and are going no where. Lots education doesn't always equal a job. There are other flaws you can have. Like I said my sister doesn't have people skills. In that, she will never go anywhere in life.
It doesn't just depend on the connections. You can make a name for yourself. You just got to work hard and believe yourself. Haven't you ever read dammit. I forgot the book... it's Walden (or Life in the Woods) by Henry David Thoreau.... This is why he went to the woods:
That is the philosphy he used to go to the woods. But when you read the part on why he left the woods... Sheer brilliancy."I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived"
Ahhhhh i love it. if you don't get it, GTFO."I left the woods for as good a reason as I went there. Perhaps it seemed to me that I had several more lives to live, and could not spare any more time for that one. I learned this, at least, by my experiment; that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with success in uncommon hours."
Um lets Thomas Edison and Einstein never went to school. Yet they managed to do incredible things.
Autumn Im sorry but in your litteraly safe little chamber out there is a cruel word. And those business guys dont care if you graduated from Harvard and Stanford. Youre still a scrub to them and they wont give you any respect. Sorry. It's not cutting anyomre.
Got to downtown LA and see how many Harvard and Stanford kid drives M6 and Ferrarri's. Few may less then 5. Againa sorry.
I already said something about Einstein. It was mainly, probably, i'm saying probably, because i'm not for sure, because he was too smart to be around average people. Average people only dumb you down. Do you want to be in a classroom full of five years learning how to add basic numbers? How would you feel in that setting?
I'm not saying degrees = money, success, or intelligence. But it sure does help. Intelligence comes in many forms. Book wise intelligence is a great thing to come by, but they have an Einstein complex. You can't leave them in the five year old setting forever.
Einstein finished school.
Let's face it Autumn. Thoreau was overrated. You want real philosphy, check into Voltaire. IMO
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