I must say, this has been very entertaining. I'm still waiting for the "Tuner Showdown" that was discussed a while back. I've met Matt, Dan, and Doug and all of them seem like nice guys alone, but Jesus will this bullshit ever die? Both TS and BG are repectable tuners, why cant we leave it at that! When my warranty is up on my sti, i will prob go to TS, just because i know where it is and they have been great host at dyno days. Plus i have road with Dan, so i see what they are capable of. Will dan's car last? I dont know, only time will tell.