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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    Great news.

    Only thing is, how is someone supposed to know a certain restaurant's food/alcohol profit numbers?

    Bill: Hey dear, let's take the family out to Ken's Bar & Grille tonight.
    Alice: Honey that's a great idea.
    Bill: Hold on while I Google the place and check to see what their profits are from food and drink so I can see if I can carry my pistol there.

    The above was really a joke as most people will know that places like Applebee's probably get more profit from the food rather than drink, but you see what I mean? Later, QD.
    On the same token, a police officer won't know either. I guess I will have to use my best judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveboost
    On the same token, a police officer won't know either. I guess I will have to use my best judgement.
    Not bashing:

    What does a police officer have to do with this? Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    Not bashing:

    What does a police officer have to do with this? Later, QD.
    How would you get in trouble if a police officer is not called to the restaurant/establishment in question?

    You can carry in all the restaurants/bars/clubs you want. It's never an issue until a police officer is involved, right?

    A police officer will know as much as you do when it comes to where the restaurant's income is generated.

    I didn't think you were bashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveboost
    1. How would you get in trouble if a police officer is not called to the restaurant/establishment in question?

    2. You can carry in all the restaurants/bars/clubs you want. It's never an issue until a police officer is involved, right?

    3. A police officer will know as much as you do when it comes to where the restaurant's income is generated.
    1. Well obviously you wouldn't.
    2. Technically you still can't. When/if this bill gets signed into law, you'll be able to under the above guidelines.
    3. That may go either way. Law enforcement may have access to those numbers. There may be a database to keep up with that. Seems far fetched but you never know.

    Quote Originally Posted by iloveboost
    I didn't think you were bashing.
    Cool. I know we're cool, but I never know if my questions will be taken the wrong way considering my "status" around here, lolol. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    1. Well obviously you wouldn't.
    2. Technically you still can't. When/if this bill gets signed into law, you'll be able to under the above guidelines.
    3. That may go either way. Law enforcement may have access to those numbers. There may be a database to keep up with that. Seems far fetched but you never know.



    Cool. I know we're cool, but I never know if my questions will be taken the wrong way considering my "status" around here, lolol. Later, QD.
    Response to #2: "Technically"

    Response to #3: You have to love the certain vagueness applied to CCW restrictions. I could see the officer asking the manager of the restaurant the ratio for food income but definitely not a database.

    As previously stated, you'd definitely have to question pool halls, recreational businesses (bowling allies, Dave and Busters, etc) and small bars/resturants like Cafe Intermezzo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveboost
    Response to #2: "Technically"

    Response to #3: You have to love the certain vagueness applied to CCW restrictions. I could see the officer asking the manager of the restaurant the ratio for food income but definitely not a database.

    As previously stated, you'd definitely have to question pool halls, recreational businesses (bowling allies, Dave and Busters, etc) and small bars/resturants like Cafe Intermezzo.
    Dammit on the spelling. Lolol. As for the database, I know, lolol. And yeah, little "bar&grill" type places would definitely be one to question, too.

    The bad thing about gun laws is their vagueness. Someone needs to write cut and dry laws for this crap. You get all these laws passed and still the majority of carriers don't know if what they're doing is legal or not. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454
    If I am not mistaken, if a restaurant makes more than 50% of their money off of food, they can serve beer on Sunday. Because of that, I don't think it will be hard at all for law enforcement and the public to figure it out since it has already been determined who does and who doesn't.
    I didn't know that. Guess I'll have to look into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    Dammit on the spelling. Lolol. As for the database, I know, lolol. And yeah, little "bar&grill" type places would definitely be one to question, too.

    The bad thing about gun laws is their vagueness. Someone needs to write cut and dry laws for this crap. You get all these laws passed and still the majority of carriers don't know if what they're doing is legal or not. Later, QD.
    You didn't misspell it. I meant "technically" you're not supposed to, but I go to small restaurants and other hole-in-the-wall places where I'm definitely not comfortable with my surroundings and will carry in a restaurant. I do not drink at all but I will carry.

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    He was referring to whether the officer will know the revenue value from food at a restaurant. Just about every "restaurant" will be ok to enter. Where the gray area comes in is pool halls, small local bars etc. It does open the door for personal protection in WMA's and parks which is a good thing. The crime rate in these areas is much higher then people think. We did not get CCW is churches which isn't a big deal really. The public transportation is great. It takes away the chance of you walking down the street and passing a bus stop and being in violation. Under the old law you would be violatiing the law and could be charged. That is now out the window. The public gathering clause was not taken away or at least defined better. That is something that will have to be waorked on in a future bill. Now law enforcement will have to be trained on the new laws. I can see some people being locked up under the old laws after July 1st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEONRACER
    personal protection in WMA's and parks which is a good thing. The crime rate in these areas is much higher then people think.
    I do too. I bet a lot of that had to do with the recent murders in state/local parks around here the last few months. Later, QD.
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