another what if....

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Obama is a joke. But, he will get alot of the black and minority vote simply because of his skin color. That's just how people are, like people want like people taking care of things. Doesn't matter that he won't pledge to the flag of the country he wants to run. He will get the vote unless he takes a stand on welfare. Taking a stand on welfare reforms and attempting to change the free money will sink his voting power faster than an iceberg. If he is stupid and does that, he will follow Colon Powell right down the road to presidential failure.

Hillary Clinton, while I don't like her much, would be a much better choice. You people say that the rest of the world will laugh at the US for a woman president, you are wrong. The rest of the world isn't a bunch of retarded backwater people who can't even tell you the capital of their own state or think it's funny to have a TV show pitting 5th graders against grown people in a battle of wits and watching the grown-ups go down in flames. Our country is full of idiots. Plain and simple. We are a population of instant gratification slackers.

Want proof? Read these boards daily. 80% of you can't even be bothered to type correctly, spell words correctly or use punctuation much less check facts, read, learn or have an informed opinion on what the hell they are talking about.

this is ia, am i supposed to . im juts posting tp be talking man . im not being serious . but on a real note he will not win and if he did terrorist have pull on him so our country would be over.

That is what our country has to deal with day in and day out and that is why we are failing compared to the rest of the world. Our dollar is in the toilet so much that other economies are starting the switch to Euro's, which will send our costs through the roof on such unimportant things as oil. The war on terror has landed us in hot water with damm near every country in the world save Namibia and even they might be miffed. But Xbox's and Jennifer Love Hewitt's flabby bathing suit pictures still continue to make front page headlines. What does it tell you when you log into yahoo.com to check your email and the stock problems and falling dollar are buried under "Santa has to take 34 milliseconds at each childs house on Christmas eve...but you can't say Christmas because it's offensive to some retarded religion.

I think our choice of president is one of huge list of problems and until our entire government is overhauled, it won't matter if IA member number 3442 is president. Our country is still in the crap heap.

You want to see someone that speaks a good game, from his heart and takes no crap? Watch Ron Paul. He'll never win, but he needs too.

[1000cckiller]

Obama is a joke. But, he will get alot of the black and minority vote simply because of hsi skin color. Doesn't matter that he won't pledge to the flag of the country he wants to run. He will get the vote unless he takes a stand on welfare. Taking a stand on welfare reforms and attempting to change the free money will sink his voting power faster than an iceberg. If he is stupid and does that, he will follow Colon Powell right down the road to presidential failure.

Hillary Clinton, while I don't like her much, would be a much better choice. You people say that the rest of the world will laugh at the US for a woman president, you are wrong. The rest of the world isn't a bunch of retarded backwater people who can't even tell you the capital of their own state or think it's funny to have a TV show pitting 5th graders against grown people in a battle of wits and watching the grown-ups go down in flames. Our country is full of idiots. Plain and simple. We are a population of instant gratification slackers.

Want proof? read these boards daily. 80% of you can't even be bothered to type correctly, spell words correctly or use punctuation much less check facts, read, learn or have an informed opinion on what the hell they are talking about.



That is what our country has to deal with day in and day out and that is why we are failing compared to the rest of the world. Our dollar is in the toilet so much that our economies are starting the switch to Euro's, which will send our costs through the roof on such unimportant things as oil. The war on terror has landed us in hot water with damm near every country in the world save Namibia and even they might be miffed. But Xbox's and Jennifer Love Hewitt's flabby bathing suit pictures still continue to make front page headlines. What does it tell you when you log into yahoo.com to check your email and the stock problems and falling dollar are buried under "Santa has to take 34 milliseconds at each childs house on Christmas eve...but you can't say Christmas because it's offensive to some retarded religion.

I think our choice of president is one of huge list of problems and until our entire government is overhauled, it won't matter if IA member number 3442 is president. Our country is still in the crap heap.

no he wont. I am black, and I am not voting for him. He is a decent person, but to me he lacks some experience.

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no he wont. I am black, and I am not voting for him. He is a decent person, but to me he lacks some experience.

Notice I said alot, you are not the whole of the black vote my friend.

[1000cckiller]

Notice I said alot, you are not the whole of the black vote my friend.

I know a lot of people and the majority of them aren't voting for Obama either.

[Glides]

I know a lot of people and the majority of them aren't voting for Obama either.

There are (as of 2005) 23,390,506 Black Americans. How many of those do you know?
There are (as of 2005) alot more White Americans. 80.2% of the pupulation to be exact. I didn't have time to do the math on other ethnic groups.
Female population (as of 2005) 50.7%.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

*of course, these figures are not correct i'm sure, it IS the government we are talking about.*

That is one of the main reasons Obama won't be elected. Add in the fact that he's inexperienced, of middle eastern decent at quite possibly the WORST time for a middle eastern to be running for office and that he is un-american (or perceived to be by not pledging to the flag and you have failure for Obama.

Hillary is the danger. If women banded together, they could elect a woman president. But she is marred by her husbands past pokings and lies so she is on unstable ground. The problem is that those are the top dogs in a crappy election. They are the best their party could put together. Sad.

[1000cckiller]

There are (as of 2005) 23,390,506 Black Americans. How many of those do you know?
There are (as of 2005) alot more White Americans. 80.2% of the pupulation to be exact. I didn't have time to do the math on other ethnic groups.
Female population (as of 2005) 50.7%.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

*of course, these figures are not correct i'm sure, it IS the government we are talking about.*

That is one of the main reasons Obama won't be elected. Add in the fact that he's inexperienced, of middle eastern decent at quite possibly the WORST time for a middle eastern to be running for office and that he is un-american (or perceived to be by not pledging to the flag and you have failure for Obama.

Hillary is the danger. If women banded together, they could elect a woman president. But she is marred by her husbands past pokings and lies so she is on unstable ground. The problem is that those are the top dogs in a crappy election. They are the best their party could put together. Sad.

Like I said his inexperience is key to him not being voted in. But blacks aren't just going to vote him in because of skin color. Also Hillary Clinton will get more backing by the black community because of Bill. Obama lacks moral to me and he looks like a terroist.

[Glides]

Like I said his inexperience is key to him not being voted in. But blacks aren't just going to vote him in because of skin color. Also Hillary Clinton will get more backing by the black community because of Bill. Obama lacks moral to me and he looks like a terroist.

I agree. Hillary will get alot of support from teh black community because of Bill.
I liked Bill Clinton, other than his indescrations (which didn't bother me in the least, it's when he lied about it that sealed his fate. People can handle an adulterer, they can't handle a liar). He did alot for the country and alot for minorites. As for the "looking like a terrorist" I feel that you hit the nail on the head.

For the average beer delivery, construction worker, Nascar loving American, Obama fails to even bring a smidgin of support simply because of his heritage. At a time when war is the sour taste in every americans mouth, to even think a person of middle eastern decent would have a chance at winning is laughable. That just goes to show you the sad presidential candidates that we currently have if they put him up to run.

I disagree though that there are blacks that won't vote him in just for his skin color. Alot will. Educated people won't. They will look at things much the way you are and will make an informed decision based on his experience and other things. But less educated people will simply "Want a Black president" because that will somehow fix things that they see as problems in society. A black president will not fix anything because in the end he is a black politician. Political affiliations know no race, no color, no sex. They just know politics. They are all after one thing, power.

[tony]

There are (as of 2005) 23,390,506 Black Americans. How many of those do you know?
There are (as of 2005) alot more White Americans. 80.2% of the pupulation to be exact. I didn't have time to do the math on other ethnic groups.
Female population (as of 2005) 50.7%.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

*of course, these figures are not correct i'm sure, it IS the government we are talking about.*

That is one of the main reasons Obama won't be elected. Add in the fact that he's inexperienced, of middle eastern decent at quite possibly the WORST time for a middle eastern to be running for office and that he is un-american (or perceived to be by not pledging to the flag and you have failure for Obama.

Hillary is the danger. If women banded together, they could elect a woman president. But she is marred by her husbands past pokings and lies so she is on unstable ground. The problem is that those are the top dogs in a crappy election. They are the best their party could put together. Sad.

As I stated before Barack Obama is American, his mother is white and his father is Kenyan so I don't see where you're getting the middle eastern thing.

Second, by your numbers and logic Obama has a huge dependency on the black vote, that is confusing since Obama leads the polls at 31% of the voter support in the pivotal state of Iowa. Oh yeah, Iowa's demographic is 95% white with blacks making up not even 3% of the population.

[tony]

There are (as of 2005) 23,390,506 Black Americans. How many of those do you know?
There are (as of 2005) alot more White Americans. 80.2% of the pupulation to be exact. I didn't have time to do the math on other ethnic groups.
Female population (as of 2005) 50.7%.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

*of course, these figures are not correct i'm sure, it IS the government we are talking about.*

That is one of the main reasons Obama won't be elected. Add in the fact that he's inexperienced, of middle eastern decent at quite possibly the WORST time for a middle eastern to be running for office and that he is un-american (or perceived to be by not pledging to the flag and you have failure for Obama.

Hillary is the danger. If women banded together, they could elect a woman president. But she is marred by her husbands past pokings and lies so she is on unstable ground. The problem is that those are the top dogs in a crappy election. They are the best their party could put together. Sad.

Quoted for stupidity, Barack Obama just won 37% of the democratic vote in Iowa which is a state that is 95% WHITE. If he wins in New Hampshire say hello to what may be the next President..