another dead street racing

[Doppelgänger]

ok...accoring to the story I just read & vid I just saw on AJC.com, the accident was caused by a silver 96 Accord leaving a parking lot, which "clipped" the side of the grey 03 Accord, sending it into on coming traffic. The red Mazda 6 swerved to avoid the accident between the two Accords and crossed into oncoming traffic, hitting a Kia Sportage head on. The deceased 16yr old was a passenger in the Mazda 6.

It sounds to me like the the 96 Accord caused this accident if it "clipped" the 03 Accord while leaving a parking lot. If that is the case, is it fair to say this accident was caused by street racing? Of course you can say that this wouldn't have happened if the two cars weren't racing but, that's not necessarly true. If this accident was caused by the 96 Accord "clipping" the 03 Accord, the same series of events could have taken place if these cars weren't racing. I'm sure speed could have played a factor in keeping the cars from going into oncoming traffic but, the same result could possibly occur if the cars suspected of racing were traveling at 45-50mph.

I guess I'm sort of playing devil's advocate here but, it's primarily due to the manner in which I heard the story last night. The story I heard/saw was reported in a manner that left me thinking two cars were racing & they hit two other vehicles. Like I said in my earlier post, what I heard/saw last night was very sensationalized & I caught the tail end of the story. Being that the evening news fights for ratings like any other show, I couldn't tell if they were using the term street racing just to grab your attention or if this accident was truly the result of street racing

Im going to have to disagree with that. If the cars were only going 45-50, it would have been MUCH more likely that the car could have been more recoverable. Not to mention there is median all along that road. To be able to make it across that median and still have enough momentum to destroy a car takes more then the speed limit..... even slightly over the speed limit. Either way, to be killed in a accident in a modern day car takes serious force. If the kid was wearing his seatbelt, then to have a fatal amount of face takes a lot, even not wearing a seatbelt with all of todays airbags,crumple zones etc..., it still takes a hard hit.

I also see it as, if the cars were not racing and that if the 6 was far enough behind to see the accident and swerve to avoid, they would have had ample time to stand on the brakes and have a small impact if not none at all. If the 6 was not that far behind, it would have been likely to get tagged by the Accord....... assuming they were going +/- the speed limit. But the case is the 6 went over a median (more then likely).

As for the 96 Accord being at fault, bullsh!t. If one factor of the whole equation was missing, nothing would have happened. But because the 6 and the new accord somehow got into a contest of speed (one had to have instigated the other), they were where they should not have been if they had been driving at normal speeds. Now, if it was proven that the 6 and the new Accord were just minding their own business and going the speed limit when the 96 Accord pulled out in front of the newer Accord, then things would have been totally different and the carnage/massive about of debris would NOT have been there.

Here are the pics...

http://www.wsbtv.com/slideshow/14510...l.html?taf=atl

[Nomad!]

Im going to have to disagree with that. If the cars were only going 45-50, it would have been MUCH more likely that the car could have been more recoverable. Not to mention there is median all along that road. To be able to make it across that median and still have enough momentum to destroy a car takes more then the speed limit..... even slightly over the speed limit. Either way, to be killed in a accident in a modern day car takes serious force. If the kid was wearing his seatbelt, then to have a fatal amount of face takes a lot, even not wearing a seatbelt with all of todays airbags,crumple zones etc..., it still takes a hard hit.

I also see it as, if the cars were not racing and that if the 6 was far enough behind to see the accident and swerve to avoid, they would have had ample time to stand on the brakes and have a small impact if not none at all. If the 6 was not that far behind, it would have been likely to get tagged by the Accord....... assuming they were going +/- the speed limit. But the case is the 6 went over a median (more then likely).

As for the 96 Accord being at fault, bullsh!t. If one factor of the whole equation was missing, nothing would have happened. But because the 6 and the new accord somehow got into a contest of speed (one had to have instigated the other), they were where they should not have been if they had been driving at normal speeds. Now, if it was proven that the 6 and the new Accord were just minding their own business and going the speed limit when the 96 Accord pulled out in front of the newer Accord, then things would have been totally different and the carnage/massive about of debris would NOT have been there.

Here are the pics...

http://www.wsbtv.com/slideshow/14510...l.html?taf=atl

Yeah I saw the pics. It was definitely a rather violent collision. As for this not happening if they were traveling 45-50 mph, I'm not convinced. I agree with you that if they were traveling at slower speeds the cars would have been more recoverable but, you must always consider the skill (or lack there of) of the drivers in question. I've seen cars on their sides &/or totaled from accidents at these speeds so, the 96 Accord could have set off the same series of events even if the cars in question weren't racing.

Again, I'm just playing devil's advocate at this point. I'm not saying Street Racing wasn't involved. I am saying this accident could have occurred without the added element of Street Racing and, I wanted to know if the Mazda & Accord Coupe were really racing or not. From what I initially saw/heard I couldn't tell.

[Alan®]

dumbass drivers sucks for the parents of the kid that died though. i had a buddy die in a cituation similar to this 2 years ago where he was the passenger nd the idiot driver decided he was going to be cool and do 80 in a 35. numnuts lost control and slamed into a telephone pole. buddy died because of the seat belt snapping his neck. douche bag has been avoiding court ever since and just recently got another ****in continuance untl nex year. i hope both drivers get what they deserve

[§treet_§peed]

dumb ****s.. thats whay you don't do this **** on open roads

[DrivenMind]

Gonna be a story like this about Nick Hogan sooner or later...

[§treet_§peed]

i watched this on the new last night...

[AB3dj]

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...isplay.php?f=9

I wonder if they posted in there at all?

[S II K]

they all go to my highschool. sucks that one of the passengers past away. it hit my school pretty hard, i saw alot of tears today in the hallways this isnt a joking matter. i know they where street racing and that has no excuse but we all need to show some respect when it comes to a death.

[On_Her_Face]

they all go to my highschool. sucks that one of the passengers past away. it hit my school pretty hard, i saw alot of tears today in the hallways this isnt a joking matter. i know they where street racing and that has no excuse but we all need to show some respect when it comes to a death.

ohh snap.. did i know them

[VooDooXII]

ohh snap.. did i know them

Zohaib Samani...?

[On_Her_Face]

hmmm it was just suspected that they were racing.. but ohh well

[Maniaç]

Like I said in the other thread. Sucks, cause he was only 16. But in an hour or two we will all act like it never happend and move on with our life. Will, im sure people would be upset due to the fact that he went to your school. But when it comes to stupidity, why feel sorry?

[S II K]

Like I said in the other thread. Sucks, cause he was only 16. But in an hour or two we will all act like it never happend and move on with our life. Will, im sure people would be upset due to the fact that he went to your school. But when it comes to stupidity, why feel sorry?

dude im not asking anyone to feel sorry they made a stupid decision and im not arguing about that. all im saying is that some motherfukkers in here should show some respect when someone dies, especially at such a young age. and no ppl wont move on in an hour and forget about it. he has family and friends that cared about him and its not that easy to just forget about someone especially when a tragic death was involved.

[BKgen®]

a f*cking wreck (non-street racing related) happened right in front of me this morning on the way to work... some dumbass wasn't looking and pulled right out in front of an F-150 in a backroad intersection. That sh*t happened like 30 feet in front of me as i was about to turn into the road. the F-150 went rolling right by me after it hit the car and then clipped a telephone pole. Shook me up.

[dartingd]

that was def. not a low speed accident! and if you wanna talk about bad wrecks, a guy in an older caprice or something pulled out in front of an f350 up here last week. 350 didn't have time to hit brakes, t-boned him, and came w/n about 6"-1' of completely splitting the car in half in the middle. Needless to say, driver (my age, but I don't know who), was killed on impact.

[_Christian_]

thats sad. i wish the driver died instead of the passenger. at least they didnt kill anyone else. street racing deaths do seem to happen in slower cars. i think it's because teens tend to be driving slow cars. also, teens probably account for the majority of street racing deaths due to their immaturity/lack of skill behind the wheel.

[aneel]

The boy in the passanger seat was Zoheb Samani... he was my girlfrieds sisters fiances little brother.. i had just met him at church Saturday night.. i really dont know much about what happened so i have no comment at this point all i know is that his funeral is tommorow..

Zoheb was in the red mazda sitting in the passanger seat and was found dead at the scene.. the driver of that vehicle is still in serious condition and everyone else involved is okay.. the police havent been able to prove whether STREET RACING actually was the cause of the accident but they are still investigating..

ive known these kids since they were in diapers and they are very good kids.. imho everyone makes mistakes.. i was fortunate to learn the hard way when i turned sixteen and got my license suspended..

imo that probably saved my life..

aNeeL

[aneel]

okay.. thats not what im standing up for and arguing against... its about how heartless ppl can be.. i mean these are kids!! they arent smart.. denye it all you want but we were all at that stage! IMO the only ppl that "should perish" are the ones who intentionally kill someone..

aNeeL

[xLSTONEx]

WHO GIVES A ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


REPS FOR ME!

[Doppelgänger]

lol.... im heartless because i dont feel bad for people who clearly chose to do what they did. Am i innocent of previous life actions? No. Deciding when to haul ass does make a difference in the risk of ****ing up. Does that make it right? **** no.

I drive through that area quite often, its a BUSY area.....anyone going through there at those speeds is asking for trouble.

[dartingd]

another guy in here says he knew them and said they were racing...dunno tho...

[secondgencamaro]

THIS WAS NOT A STREET RACE

IOnlyLookStock was working at the Starbucks directly infront of where the accident happened and it was not a street race but simply somebody pulling out when they shouldn't have, coupled with other speeding (not racing, but speeding) that caused this tragedy.

To all those who said "so and so should have died", shame on you for wishing death upon people when you don;t have your ****ing facts straight. The whole situation was a tragedy and instead of wishing for death, you should have been wishing for life. ASS-HOLES!

[quickdodge®]

THIS WAS NOT A STREET RACE

IOnlyLookStock was working at the Starbucks directly infront of where the accident happened and it was not a street race but simply somebody pulling out when they shouldn't have, coupled with other speeding (not racing, but speeding) that caused this tragedy.

To all those who said "so and so should have died", shame on you for wishing death upon people when you don;t have your ****ing facts straight. The whole situation was a tragedy and instead of wishing for death, you should have been wishing for life. ASS-HOLES!

**** you. Later, QD.

[secondgencamaro]

**** you. Later, QD.

**** you too. Later, Joey.

[quickdodge®]

**** you too. Later, Joey.

Love the way you mocked me. I wonder if anyone else will try that. But anyway, I know you probably think shame on me for wishing death on "street racers" because you're one of them. I could care less. If you don't care about the safety of normal drivers, then I sure don't care about the safety of you. So it's more **** you, than me. I know how to live within the law. Later, QD.

[secondgencamaro]

Love the way you mocked me. I wonder if anyone else will try that. But anyway, I know you probably think shame on me for wishing death on "street racers" because you're one of them. I could care less. If you don't care about the safety of normal drivers, then I sure don't care about the safety of you. So it's more **** you, than me. I know how to live within the law. Later, QD.

Did you miss the big ass print print saying they weren't street racers? I'm just saying you need to get your ****ing facts straight before you wish such a terrible thing as death upon someone.

[aneel]

Love the way you mocked me. I wonder if anyone else will try that. But anyway, I know you probably think shame on me for wishing death on "street racers" because you're one of them. I could care less. If you don't care about the safety of normal drivers, then I sure don't care about the safety of you. So it's more **** you, than me. I know how to live within the law. Later, QD.

Later, aNeeL

[mushroom_toy]

PLus that kid has to live with(if he survives) the thought that he killed one of his friends.

[Alan®]

PLus that kid has to live with(if he survives) the thought that he killed one of his friends.

IMHO if it wasnt street racing and thats a prety big if then its tragic. and regardless of whether or not it was racing he was speeding and the driver should have to pay some kind of consequence whether it be time or no licesne or community service probation or a combination of all of them will be up to the judge. but at the same time i will not feel bad for the driver if after he gets out of the hospital and get his liscense back(which by law he can do all he has to do is go pick it up) he continues to do the same **** that got him into that mess. when my buddy died the guy that was driving got out got his liscense and I WITNESSED him do 100+ down a simalar road on which he had the accident that killed the passenger.

Case in point: Danny Heatly

He got out of the hospital made a formal apology and is now taking care of the family of the victim. He got heavy fines had to do community service and was on probation.He has become an advocate against such dangerous activity. Now that is what should come out of something like this.

[lilmanx01]

funeral is today at 4...

[dartingd]

well guy up here says he wasn't racing, but other guy said he was...stinkin high school kids, lol...

[JessAlba452]

Heard this on the news. Really sad either way, racing or not. The kid is going to have to live with the fact that he killed someone...

[Scotsman]

f- that people like Aneeldown for boys , makes me sick , f' the ricer community , if your not on a track dont show yer bawls!

[Z33_kid]

sucks i saw this on news it was on sugar loaf i heard but yea... kiddo's like my school needa chill out n wait till night or somthing hate tht **** when i leave skool n they drive tere cars(mommy & daddys car) like they stole it

Gwinnett County police Cpl. Illana Spellman i tink iv seen her a couple of times she lookin good if thats her lol

[Glides]

My point was you never see a crushed intercooler or 18" volks...its always bone stock car on hub caps and some popped collar spiked hair thug thinkin since its a Honda...its fast. Street racing only seems to be a local problem in the 17 sec community....fast cars generally go to the track in our area. (I know there are exceptions)

Hey buddy, living your life 17 seconds at a time is serious business. I spend multiple hours at the Pep Brothers House of Speed with some portable crack scales weighing lighted exhaust tips and hubcaps so that I may get the lightest there are on the market.

[Z33_kid]

Hey buddy, living your life 17 seconds at a time is serious business. I spend multiple hours at the Pep Brothers House of Speed with some portable crack scales weighing lighted exhaust tips and hubcaps so that I may get the lightest there are on the market.

me to

[aneel]

looks like ppl still are thinking that this was a street racing accident.. it wasnt.. the police report is out..

aNeeL

[secondgencamaro]

looks like ppl still are thinking that this was a street racing accident.. it wasnt.. the police report is out..

aNeeL

Unfortunately, people don't care about facts. They simply believe whatever the news sensationalizes for ratings.

[turbosx©]

well sometimes it takes a reality check for people to learn things.

[YoungGun]

As aNeel just pointed out again... IT WAS THE PASSENGER THAT DIED. I personally don't street race (have before but just playing on an empty interstate), but I have been in a car as a passenger when the driver decided to be an idiot. He had never done anything stupid with me in the car before but did one time and just about killed us both. The passenger had no part of this other than being in the car and anyone saying its good that he died even if it the cars were street racing is a ****ing *******. Your just as bad as that crazy ****ing lady who wishes death on the troops and protests at their funerals.

QD you are being the worst at this even though your probably one of the oldest members of IA. Not really sure why you feel you need to rip this dude apart for trying to stand up for someone he knows, but it would seem to show a lack of character. If street racing was your problem you should have backed down (apologizing would have been best) and stopped your little rant on street racing when it came out that they weren't racing even if they were speeding.