HEADS UP EVERYONE

[Lucky DAWG]

On a serious note we need to atleast start by considering having daily drivers that are HYBRIDS. The gas hi story is never going to change and just like anything the prices will continue to rise. People want to get richer and richer..and because gas is a need and demand will always be high. Stations can charge us tommorow $4.00 a gallon and we still will pay for it.
At least with a hybrid you can save alitte in gas in the long run put more money in your pocket to do better things with it.
New Hybrids are expensive at the moment but nothing wrong with a used one.

yea i agree, its a good idea if you don't want to put miles on your project cars

thing is though
i know parents who buy their kids a second more efficient car to somehow "save" money by them not driving their gas guzzling truck as much. I fail to see the logic in paying 15-20k on a new car to save 10 or so miles per gallon lol


and yea its not gonna PEAK tomorrow... gas has gone up every thursday or friday the past month. its only going to get worse this summer mid july or so

[The Ren]

Fuck it'll be like $5/gal for premium by summers end the way things are going..

[SniperJoe]

Kouki14, how would you respond if someone asked you about the law of supply and demand?

[no control]

^^^
Damn... If you had as many IQ points as mistakes in that collection of words, then you probably wouldn't have fucked up so royally.

lirl. +1 to you

[no control]

ya i'm planning on buying a bike so i can save on gas, then eventually i'll loose in the end cause some dumb son of a bitch will hit me on it.. but atleast i will save money on gas lol.

same here. waiting to see what my gf says about it. the one i'm looking at, though, averages 65-70 mpg. hella better than my 20 mpg i'm getting out of my '95 escort.

[Ran]

Fuck it'll be like $5/gal for premium by summers end the way things are going..

The news was predicting $3.50 for regular by the end of Summer.

40MPG Yaris FTMFW!!

[SLow_POke]

422 miles to the tank FTMFW!!!! fuck an engine swap .

[speedminded]

LAWL 2 BAD NOBODY BOYCOTTED LIKE THEY WERE SPOSED 2 YESTRDAY CUZ IF THEY DID TEH PRICES WUD BE DWN N SHYT.

...yeah.

Thanks for the heads up!

How the fuck do you suppose not buying gas for a day is going to effect ANYONE?! It will not work, period! Nobody is losing a single dime from it.

[AirMax95]

I am looking into getting a bike, parking the Suby, and getting a job closer to home. i work in Alpharetta but drive from College Park. NOt cool

[Kelly]

I filled up my Civic last night and it took exactly $30.75. I remember it taking $13 at one time Either way... My car will go almost 400 miles on a full tank (if I don't use the ac)

Civics on gas- FTW

[koukis14]

Kouki14, how would you respond if someone asked you about the law of supply and demand?

I am going to go anhead and stop this before it starts


Sniper Joe is smarter than me.

He studies business and knows more about everything than everyone.

He is the greatest human being in the world.

He also has a HUGE penis.

[PhAtBoYMr2]

too bad every damn hybrid out is ugly as shit and I'd rather shell out a couple extra bucks on gas then a couple extra thousand on an ugly car.

Blame our president for these damn prices and blame the suv craze that went on in the 90's

[ironchef]

too bad every damn hybrid out is ugly as shit and I'd rather shell out a couple extra bucks on gas then a couple extra thousand on an ugly car.

Blame our president for these damn prices and blame the suv craze that went on in the 90's

Or you could blame the producers/suppliers of the gas, just a thought .

[RandomGuy]

Or you could blame the producers/suppliers of the gas, just a thought .

when they make a fixed rate of ~10 cents per gallon of profit (oil companies) and how there is 60 to 80 cents in taxes and fees per gallon?

hrm.............. must be teh oil companies

From there, another 1.5 cents are added for delivery, state and federal taxes of 52.5 cents a gallon are tacked on along with about 2 cents per gallon for hazardous oil fees, the owner's breakdown showed.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools....asp?ID=186275

[SniperJoe]

I am going to go anhead and stop this before it starts


Sniper Joe is smarter than me.

He studies business and knows more about everything than everyone.

He is the greatest human being in the world.

He also has a HUGE penis.

Hey, I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from in your statement.

[ironchef]

when they make a fixed rate of ~10 cents per gallon of profit (oil companies) and how there is 60 to 80 cents in taxes and fees per gallon?

hrm.............. must be teh oil companies


http://www.spokesmanreview.com/tools....asp?ID=186275

Yea but what do you think those taxes go to? I'm not going to say theyre used effectively 100% of the time, but they do serve a purpose.

[Lucky DAWG]

too bad every damn hybrid out is ugly as shit and I'd rather shell out a couple extra bucks on gas then a couple extra thousand on an ugly car.

Blame our president for these damn prices and blame the suv craze that went on in the 90's

completely wrong, but okay

[ironchef]

And in case you're not sure what I'm talking about, take a gander at this:
"From 1932, when Congress first enacted an excise tax on gasoline, until 1956, the proceeds of the gas tax went into general revenues, although the amount raised each year was used as an informal benchmark for Federal highway spending. The Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 established the Highway Trust Fund and stipulated that 100% of the gas tax be deposited into the fund. From 1956 to 1982, the Highway Trust Fund was used solely to finance expenditures from the federal highway program.

Highway Trust Fund revenues were first allocated to mass transit in the Surface Transportation Act of 1982, when Congress raised the gas tax from four cents per gallon to nine cents per gallon and dedicated one cent, or 20 percent, of the increase to the newly-established Mass Transit Account. Each time there has been an increase in the amount of gas tax going into the Highway Trust Fund—1990, 1993 and 1997—20 percent of the increase has been allocated to the Transit Account and 80 percent to the Highway Account. Of the current gasoline tax of 18.3 cents per gallon, 2.86 cents per gallon is allocated to the Mass Transit Account. "

Highway Trust Fund:
"The Highway Trust Fund (HTF) was created by the Highway Revenue Act of 1956 (Pub. L. 84-627), primarily to ensure a dependable source of financing for the National System of Interstate and Defense Highways and also as the source of funding for the remainder of the Federal-aid Highway Program"

[RandomGuy]

Yea but what do you think those taxes go to? I'm not going to say theyre used effectively 100% of the time, but they do serve a purpose.

har har to fund an illegitimate trillion dollar war, maybe?


hahha just kidding dont want to draw conclusions so quick, but haha surely spending isn't as efficient as we'd like....

[ironchef]

har har to fund an illegitimate trillion dollar war, maybe?


hahha just kidding dont want to draw conclusions so quick, but haha surely spending isn't as efficient as we'd like....

If it was, we'd all be running on hydrogen powered cars right now, cause money would/should have been efficiently poured into R&D of new alternative fuels, but alas it wasn't .

[chrisdavis]

If it was, we'd all be running on hydrogen powered cars right now, cause money would/should have been efficiently poured into R&D of new alternative fuels, but alas it wasn't .

Hydrogen cars are closer than you think. Honda has one coming out next year and chevrolet is expecting to have theirs out by 2012.

The link is in my preivious post

[ironchef]

Hydrogen cars are closer than you think. Honda has one coming out next year and chevrolet is expecting to have theirs out by 2012.

The link is in my preivious post

The cars are close, but the infrastructure to support them is far from being readily available.

[Echonova]

The biggest problem with hybrids is the cost. Right now cost of a hybrid will run you more than the gas you save, even in the long run. Especially when you factor the extra maintenance they require. America hasn't built a new refinery in 30 years thanks to our politicians. So the price of a barrel of oil isn't nearly as big of a factor as the refineries output. It's been said already, supply and demand. Couple that with Americans unwilling to give up the ugly, gas guzzling SUV and you have higher prices. But honestly, how many of you have changed your driving habits because of prices? Consolidating trips and such? Few I'm guessing. We just sit around and bitch. Change shit, either with your vote or with your wallet.

[SniperJoe]

A concern that I have that I don't know enough about is the disposal and potential coming ecological disaster from all the batteries in the hybrids. Does anyone have any good information on potential environmental damage in that avenue?

[Ran]

But honestly, how many of you have changed your driving habits because of prices? Consolidating trips and such? Few I'm guessing.

I have, quite a bit honestly. If not for gas prices, I'd probably still be in my Mazdaspeed.

[chrisdavis]

But honestly, how many of you have changed your driving habits because of prices? Consolidating trips and such? Few I'm guessing. We just sit around and bitch. Change shit, either with your vote or with your wallet.

I haven't changed my driving habits a bit, however I dont complain about gas prices either.

[OneSlow5pt0]

its so hard to switch fuel sources,because when all the new cars come out using hydrogen,what bout all the cars we love that run on gas...will people start putting the hydrogen Rotary in all the old RX-7s?

[ironchef]

its so hard to switch fuel sources,because when all the new cars come out using hydrogen,what bout all the cars we love that run on gas...will people start putting the hydrogen Rotary in all the old RX-7s?

I doubt the people behind getting hydrogen as an alternative fuel source care about what some random tuners would do to their rx-7s.

[Echonova]

I doubt the people behind getting hydrogen as an alternative fuel source care about what some random tuners would do to their rx-7s.

I heard the president is going to address that very issue..LOL. Gas will still be around for a long time, unless we find some Dialithum crystals. IMO diesel will become the fuel that powers us for the future. Yes, diesel.

[OneSlow5pt0]

I doubt the people behind getting hydrogen as an alternative fuel source care about what some random tuners would do to their rx-7s.

i was just useing RX-7 for example,i mean all old car...if they cut off gas,and say use hydrogen or dont drive...will people put the hydrogens in old cars like corvettes,supras,camaros...i mean all cars

[ironchef]

i was just useing RX-7 for example,i mean all old car...if they cut off gas,and say use hydrogen or dont drive...will people put the hydrogens in old cars like corvettes,supras,camaros...i mean all cars

You're missing the overall point. They won't care about the tuner market, even though many consider it big, in the overall picture it represents a miniscule fraction of car related sales.

[OneSlow5pt0]

but i mean EVERY SINGLE cra made before hydrogen engines...like 69 camaros or corvettes

but i get what ur saying