
Originally Posted by
bu villain
Again, I think you are just comparing the number of viewers though and not the impact and level of bias. I do not think the level of bias from NBC or ABC is anywhere near that of Fox news, so even if the total number of viewers of "liberal media" is larger, the impact of the bias isn't necessarily larger. From my personal experience, people who watch Fox are much more fervent and entrenched right wing advocates than people who watch the "liberal" outlets are strong left wing advocates. I think most people who watch CNN for example are simply waiting to catch a plane and thus, less beholden to that network to be the purveyors of truth. While of course this is a difficult issue to measure subjectively as we discussed, the presence of Fox (with it's high viewer ratings and high level of bias) alone seems enough to me to debunk the narrative that the mainstream media has an overwhelming liberal bias.
You are getting off topic. This is not about Obama's use of the NSA/IRS/DHS. This is about the media and saying that left wing bias exists doesn't mean that right wing bias also doesn't exist. Both of which have prominent roles in "the media". I am not arguing that no one in the media has a liberal bias, I am arguing that both exist and I don't think there is sufficient evidence to say that the impact of the bias from the left is significantly greater than the impact of the bias from the right. Obama's actions are not really part of that equation. My secondary point was the mainstream media includes Fox which is a huge and severely right biased organization. When you refer to the mainstream media, you don't get to exclude them just because the liberal leaning stations are greater in number.