How Muslims handle rape charges.

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First of all I would say, reading some news headlines particularly from conservative American perspectives does not a Muslim scholar make.



First, let's take a poll of all muslims in America and see how many agree marrying a 6 year old is a right. You imply it is 100%, I would venture it's much closer to 0%. I really have no idea what it has to do with gay marriage though.

Koran permits lying to deceive for the betterment of islam. So are we to believe muslims when they say they dont believe in the radical parts of the religion even when the book specifically says to lie on behalf of islam?

Are you disputing that the koran is radical or are you taking the approach that most muslims simply do not believe in the koran?

Who do you think is to blame for the chaos that surrounds every nation that is predominantly islamic? explain it to me..... offer up your case that would remove the blame from muslims themselves.

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Koran permits lying to deceive for the betterment of islam. So are we to believe muslims when they say they dont believe in the radical parts of the religion even when the book specifically says to lie on behalf of islam?

No you don't have to believe their words but I find that their actions are a reliable indicator.

Are you disputing that the koran is radical or are you taking the approach that most muslims simply do not believe in the koran?

I've never read a religious text that wasn't radical and the Koran is no exception. I think for any religious text, the Koran included, it's followers interpret and live out it's tenets in a variety of ways. To put it in Christian terms, MLK and Westboro Baptist Church both strongly believe in the bible.

Who do you think is to blame for the chaos that surrounds every nation that is predominantly islamic? explain it to me..... offer up your case that would remove the blame from muslims themselves.

Well there are over 50 countries who are predominately Muslim and I would hardly say they are all in chaos. I can't make such a sweeping generalization to what the cause is of the problems in all those countries. There are a variety of factors and certainly beyond my depth of knowledge. Is part of it due to people's interpretation of Islam? Yes, but I won't condemn all muslims based on the actions of a minor portion. There are far too many Muslims live respectably for me to say that.

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No you don't have to believe their words but I find that their actions are a reliable indicator.



I've never read a religious text that wasn't radical and the Koran is no exception. I think for any religious text, the Koran included, it's followers interpret and live out it's tenets in a variety of ways. To put it in Christian terms, MLK and Westboro Baptist Church both strongly believe in the bible.



Well there are over 50 countries who are predominately Muslim and I would hardly say they are all in chaos. I can't make such a sweeping generalization to what the cause is of the problems in all those countries. There are a variety of factors and certainly beyond my depth of knowledge. Is part of it due to people's interpretation of Islam? Yes, but I won't condemn all muslims based on the actions of a minor portion. There are far too many Muslims live respectably for me to say that.

We're of a like mind when it comes to religion in general, but i dont see how you're not drawing a comparison to muslims of today to the crusading christians of the past. The modern day christian has been subdued and learned to cope with the ever changing society around them. They still grumble from time to time, but ultimately, they're pretty tolerant of nonchristians. Muslims are very anti-western culture and theyre at war with our way of living. If you had a to put a % on it, what % of the world's genocide do you think is on behalf of Islam? The media should do more to show the world how Muslims treat women and children. It scares me to try and understand the reasoning for being tolerant of this radical and violent religion.

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We're of a like mind when it comes to religion in general, but i dont see how you're not drawing a comparison to muslims of today to the crusading christians of the past. The modern day christian has been subdued and learned to cope with the ever changing society around them. They still grumble from time to time, but ultimately, they're pretty tolerant of nonchristians. Muslims are very anti-western culture and theyre at war with our way of living. If you had a to put a % on it, what % of the world's genocide do you think is on behalf of Islam? The media should do more to show the world how Muslims treat women and children. It scares me to try and understand the reasoning for being tolerant of this radical and violent religion.

I do think modern day jihadists are similar in many ways to the crusaders of the past. Over time they too will become more subdued and tolerant. I believe it is inevitable and the jihadists are already far outnumbered in the Muslim world. I don't have a problem calling out mistreatment of women and children, the only issue I have is that you blame the religion rather than the individuals when most people who claim the religion are peaceful. While by sheer numbers, many muslim are violent and intolerant, your statements usually imply that most Muslims are this way. That is the issue I am taking.

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I do think modern day jihadists are similar in many ways to the crusaders of the past. Over time they too will become more subdued and tolerant. I believe it is inevitable and the jihadists are already far outnumbered in the Muslim world. I don't have a problem calling out mistreatment of women and children, the only issue I have is that you blame the religion rather than the individuals when most people who claim the religion are peaceful. While by sheer numbers, many muslim are violent and intolerant, your statements usually imply that most Muslims are this way. That is the issue I am taking.

I'm just more into preserving the way of life that myself, you, my friends and family enjoy than i am being tolerant or accepting of other countries. The fact that someone like the boston bombers were able to travel back and forth between countries while plotting a terrorist attack and then successfully pull off that attack is very alarming to me. Especially in light of the fact that our government has open access to everyone in america..... It's like they said in the past... "when you start exchanging freedom for safety, you're no longer free or safe".... the spying didnt stop the terrorist attacks, even though we gave up a freedom to keep us safe from terrorists attacks.


Edit... i said we gave up a freedom, correction... a freedom was taken from us.

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I'm just more into preserving the way of life that myself, you, my friends and family enjoy than i am being tolerant or accepting of other countries. The fact that someone like the boston bombers were able to travel back and forth between countries while plotting a terrorist attack and then successfully pull off that attack is very alarming to me. Especially in light of the fact that our government has open access to everyone in america..... It's like they said in the past... "when you start exchanging freedom for safety, you're no longer free or safe".... the spying didnt stop the terrorist attacks, even though we gave up a freedom to keep us safe from terrorists attacks.


Edit... i said we gave up a freedom, correction... a freedom was taken from us.

Yes it is alarming but as you know, freedom is dangerous so we will always be somewhat vulnerable to attacks unless you only believe freedom is a privilege reserved only for Americans. I would also like to generally preserve our way of life but the jihadists feel the same and see America as interfering with their way of life. It's true, we are. We have a global influence and it is very disruptive to societies whose fundamental values haven't changed much that much in hundreds of years. Now of course we believe our values are better because they are OUR values and so we will continue to act on those. The question then becomes how best to convert others and minimize the backlash. You seem to think antagonizing other cultures is the way. I think you catch more flies with honey.

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Yes it is alarming but as you know, freedom is dangerous so we will always be somewhat vulnerable to attacks unless you only believe freedom is a privilege reserved only for Americans. I would also like to generally preserve our way of life but the jihadists feel the same and see America as interfering with their way of life. It's true, we are. We have a global influence and it is very disruptive to societies whose fundamental values haven't changed much that much in hundreds of years. Now of course we believe our values are better because they are OUR values and so we will continue to act on those. The question then becomes how best to convert others and minimize the backlash. You seem to think antagonizing other cultures is the way. I think you catch more flies with honey.

Given the accuracy of what you just said..... why is so impossible for politicians to understand that? Or, assuming they do understand it.... which i think they do, give me the reason for manipulating tragedy to push useless legislation?