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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Yes it is alarming but as you know, freedom is dangerous so we will always be somewhat vulnerable to attacks unless you only believe freedom is a privilege reserved only for Americans. I would also like to generally preserve our way of life but the jihadists feel the same and see America as interfering with their way of life. It's true, we are. We have a global influence and it is very disruptive to societies whose fundamental values haven't changed much that much in hundreds of years. Now of course we believe our values are better because they are OUR values and so we will continue to act on those. The question then becomes how best to convert others and minimize the backlash. You seem to think antagonizing other cultures is the way. I think you catch more flies with honey.
    Given the accuracy of what you just said..... why is so impossible for politicians to understand that? Or, assuming they do understand it.... which i think they do, give me the reason for manipulating tragedy to push useless legislation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Given the accuracy of what you just said..... why is so impossible for politicians to understand that? Or, assuming they do understand it.... which i think they do, give me the reason for manipulating tragedy to push useless legislation?
    Its not that politicians don't understand, it's that many citizens would rather have safety than freedom and believe they can trade one for the other. The politicians are trying to enact the will of that group of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Its not that politicians don't understand, it's that many citizens would rather have safety than freedom and believe they can trade one for the other. The politicians are trying to enact the will of that group of people.
    come on................................... please dont tell you believe what you just said.......

    So the government is just an unbiased neutral observer who acts solely on the will of the people and does not push in any direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    come on................................... please dont tell you believe what you just said.......

    So the government is just an unbiased neutral observer who acts solely on the will of the people and does not push in any direction?
    I didn't say they were unbiased, they are usually very biased toward getting reelected. Some politicians believe they can trade freedom for security and are willing to do so, just as many of their constituents do. Others don't believe that but will act like they do because they want to get reelected. Very few politicians are willing to do something they believe in even if they know their constituents feel the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    I didn't say they were unbiased, they are usually very biased toward getting reelected. Some politicians believe they can trade freedom for security and are willing to do so, just as many of their constituents do. Others don't believe that but will act like they do because they want to get reelected. Very few politicians are willing to do something they believe in even if they know their constituents feel the opposite.
    rationalize the spying program to me...... since polls are showing that almost all of America strongly oppose it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    rationalize the spying program to me...... since polls are showing that almost all of America strongly oppose it.
    Simple! They didn't think they would get caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Simple! They didn't think they would get caught.
    So what can we learn from their rogue actions? This doesnt really support your will of the people argument. If they were acting on behalf of the people, they wouldnt need to hide anything from the people. If the will of the people is paramount, then why isnt government completely transparent?

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