I guess they will be knocking on my door soon too.
I hope you don't believe this is trueOriginally Posted by Sinfix_15
Who knows anymore what is and isn't true. The only thing i do know is that it certainly isn't you.
Dude... the websites you read and the articles that you link are the definition of propaganda. It's 100% BS that's just mean to sway people's opinions. Are you really so gullible that you're reading it and actually believing it?
In that particular article... notice how the first sentence is already trying to set the tone for the article, and the second sentence says "Barack Hussein Obama", which is attempting to focus on the part of his name that happens to be the same as a deceased middle eastern dictator. Towards the end of the article, several points are bolded, and OMG they are all focused around recent hot topics in the political world! what a shocker! They bold the text that references gun control, Eric Holder, and the Boston bombing.prop·a·gan·da
/ˌpräpəˈgandə/
Noun
1. Information, esp. of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
2. The dissemination of such information as a political strategy.
This isn't news. It isn't proper journalism. It's complete bullshit.
The people that create this shit do it so that other people who have a sub 100 I.Q. but know how to read, run their mouth, and fire a gun, can get all wound up about our current government.
You could apply this statement to any of the current scandals before they were revealed. Typical lefty, deny until you can no longer deny anymore, then deny some more.
IDK if the story is true or not, neither do you. I thought it was funny.
Now that you come in here all butt hurt and nerd raging its even more funny.
Last edited by Sinfix_15; 06-12-2013 at 12:50 PM.
I like how the headline is a question. We don't really know why they visited this dude but we'll speculate that its because he said some bad shit about Obama on Twitter. It's ok to suggest wrongdoing because we put a question mark at the end! You're right Sinflix, this is funny.
I was going to read the article but I got too distracted by their other enticing articles including "We dare you not to cry over this man singing to his wife" and "Can you identify these stars just by their famous mouths?".
Welcome to tabloid journalism! We shape your opinions buy using open ended questions for headlines and letting you speculate the outcome. You may remember us from such sensationalist headlines as:
-Was Obama really born in the US?
-Is socialism taking over America?
-Criminals don't follow laws, do they?
-You 2nd amendment rights and why they're trampling all over them!
We look forward to molding the minds of half witted and simple minded adults across the nation for the next 3.5 years!
I honestly laugh at a lot of what you have to say. Do you go through life with blinders on?
The only reason they'll be at your door is to politely ask you to stop sending your dick pics to obama. He's not interested.
Nah Obama dont fear you...
Nah Obama dont fear you...
Clearly they do..... otherwise they wouldnt be monitoring our every word.
Every story in relation to things like this gets "laughed out of the building"..... but how many stories like this continue to be proven true on a daily basis. Every day a new story comes out and theyre all things you wouldnt have believed possible two years ago. Yet some of you still confidently insult anyone pays any mind to things like this.
Almost every single conspiracy theory has come to fruition.
Just calling it like it is.
Said the sheep to the cow.
It's so funny because you go off on these tangents where you express how you feel intellectually superior to everyone, but everyone realizes that you're an idiot and most of what you have to say about others is a perfect description of yourself. You talk about people being manipulated by propaganda or having a hive mind......
do you not realize that is exactly what you are???? The hive mind..... manipulated by propaganda. You're a puppet..... I bet Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton collect royalties for every one of your posts here.
Can we speak to whoever has their hand up your ass so we can get to the bottom of this?
So you think just cause Obama is monitoring everyone closer that singles you out ?
If for some wild chance this was possible it may be due to his name drop you do every 10min on here lol
It was a joke.....
and this thread is about the CIA.
CIA? It's the NSA with the secretive monitoring capabilities, and the Secret Service that came to visit him.
If you make any kind of statement that MIGHT be construed as a physical threat against the President, it is the job of the Secret Service to fully investigate you, and to determine if you are a legitimate threat. This includes inciting others to commit violent acts.
United States Secret Service: National Threat Assessment Center (NTAC)
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Just to be clear, they aren't monitoring our every word. They are monitoring metadata which does not include any voice or transcript of what was said. It is only things like call location, duration, etc.
Wouldn't have believed possible two years ago? We knew about this kinda shit 7 years ago. Did you already forget about the Bush warrantless wiretapping issue? Here's a reminder:
Bush Administration's Warrantless Wiretapping Program - Washington Post
Highlights below:
Revelations in May 2006 showed that the NSA made an effort to log a majority of the telephone calls made within the United States since Sept. 11, 2001 -- amassing the domestic call records of tens of millions of U.S. households and businesses in an attempt to sift them for clues about terrorist threats.
On Sept. 7, 2006, President Bush defended the controversial program and urged Congress to give him additional authority to continue the warrantless eavesdropping, as part of a series of speeches on the war on terror leading up to the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
On Jan. 17, 2007, the Bush administration announced an abrupt reversal to its policy, agreeing to disband the controversial program run by the National Security Agency that it had staunchly defended, to replace it with a new effort overseen by the secret court that administers the FISA.
That is incorrect
here's a better timeline: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline
You are assuming that what they are telling you is the truth. There is no one else that has independently verified their claims. I remind you that they have lied to Congress concerning the collection of data previously, so on what basis (other than faith in the government) do you have to trust them when they tell you that they are not listening to calls when they want to?
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
It doesn't matter. Don't you know by now if you disagree with Sinfix, or know something he doesn't, you have literally had oral sex with the president?
How are you so sure? Do you have evidence?
How do you know you're not being lied to?
I question i wish you were capable of asking yourself.
Who's got more to gain by lying - the leaker who might go to jail, or the group in charge of the most powerful spying progeam in the world.
Apply some logical thinking.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Lol. I'll ask myself next time I think Obama is listening to my telephone call
He told you that he wasnt. Praise the government, amen.
Rush Limbaugh told me they were listening to my phone calls. The Administration says they're not. So who should have more credibility, shock jocks and pundits without law degrees, or a group of Harvard graduated individuals? You tell me.
Harvard grads you say?
So education is a factor in deciding who you should trust?
Let's compare the grades of these men.
Education is not related to credibility. You might need to review your reasoning abilities, as they are found wanting.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Ted Cruz, a highly respected Harvard grad who his professors call a genius and one of the most brilliant students theyve ever had, has a lot of interesting things to say in return about Harvard.
by the way, what do Obama's professors and classmates say about him?
Facepalm.
When are you gonna start? Lol
If you believe that education equals credibility, then you are completely clueless.
A person can have a doctorate, and still be completely wrong, or deliberately lie. A person who doesn't even have a GED can be correct, and honest.
The two are not directly linked.
Now, an education can mean that a person is more likely to have more knowledge in a particular field that they have studied, and in that field their opinion might be more informed, but that does not mean that just having a degree from a university automatically makes you more knowledgeable in all fields.
I really should start charging you for all of the education that I provide to you.
Let's see - I get paid by a Fortune 50 company for my abilities to think and communicate with logic. You have a childcare facility, so you get paid for diaper changes.
Blank is an expert in understanding the psychology of people who still shit their pants.
I am not saying I believe the NSA, I am saying I don't know the truth so I am not going to assume anything until I see the evidence for it. Why are you trying to make me pick a side when I am obviously ignorant about the facts?
Again, I am not assuming they are telling the truth. I am certainly open to the possibility that they are lying but that is not sufficient evidence in and of itself.
Yes I do need evidence. Thank you for providing more evidence than Sinflix is willing to give. While I do accept that it could be one piece of the puzzle, the NSA simply having a huge data center is still pretty far from conclusive in my opinion.
Fair enough.
On the data center - definitely not conclusive, but you will not be given the ability to get 100% conclusive evidence when all of the evidence is controlled by the agency in power that is trying to keep it suppressed.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Very true. My response is simply to be on guard and to recognize that it is a very real possibility that all our calls are monitored. Honestly, I have felt that way since the Bush warrantless wiretapping issue came up years ago. I would also support additional oversight right now. I don't need conclusive evidence to support that.
We are in agreement on that.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
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