Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
It sounds good, but there is no system in which every person can live the way they want without being influenced by others beliefs. Groups will always have more power to force their beliefs on individuals. Government allows us to determine collectively which freedoms we want to restrict because one person's freedom can result in the denial of another's.
You shouldnt have the freedom to support yourself off of my work....... that is where we went wrong. "as soon as people realize they can vote themselves money, that will be the end of the republic"..... how twisted have we become that you are literally saying to me that me wanting to keep the money i work for is denying someone else their freedom. It's a real tragedy that you or anyone else actually thinks this way. "government allows us...." That's not the way it was meant to be. For too long people have been willing to trade their freedom away to big government in exchange for entitlements... now the monster may be too big to ever be put back in it's cage.


Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
We have freedom of religion because we collectively agree that it is a good thing. The same process that allows us to get together and enforce everyone's freedom of religion is the same process that could theoretically take it away. Democracy is a double edged sword and you can't only use one side.
What a great nation we live in..... where the majority can vote away the rights of the minority, no matter how stupid the majority is.



Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
You can disagree with the results of our representative democracy but that doesn't make it socialism or anything else than a representative democracy. You say no taxation without representation but you do have representation whether you agree with what your representative does or not. Representation does not entitle you to getting things your way, it's just a voice, no more valuable than anyone else's.
So when the government uses it's agencies to attack political parties that support my views, that is my government representing me? When the government pushes unconstitutional laws, that is my government representing me? Are all of my rights borrowed from the government to be taken away whenever they see fit?

It's really sad.... democrats are ruining this country.