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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I don't care what you answer it with. I'm not assuming everyone is driving at full tilt. Do you agree or disagree that it's not a great idea to have everyone in the world driving a Corvette at full tilt, over a cavalier?
    Its a bogus question. You would know that if you had a degree in psychology.

    Cars and drivers are not limited to being used at full ability, nor have to be used at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    someone should warn all the foreign guns.
    Theyre already well aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Why would you assume that some one is a gun nut just because they stand up for the Constitution and the Amendments?

    Why do you think that you have a grasp on reality and others don't?
    Because you or Sinfix haven't really demonstrated this yet. The reality is even after an assault weapons ban, you'll still be able to purchase an assault weapon. I don't understand how people believe you won't be able to. It's baffling my mind right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Why would you assume that some one is a gun nut just because they stand up for the Constitution and the Amendments?

    Why do you think that you have a grasp on reality and others don't?
    He is delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Because you or Sinfix haven't really demonstrated this yet. The reality is even after an assault weapons ban, you'll still be able to purchase an assault weapon. I don't understand how people believe you won't be able to. It's baffling my mind right now.


    I never claimed that you would no longer be able to buy an assault weapon at all. You make these ridiculous assumptions on your own, so you are confusing yourself. Im trying to help you understand reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Because you or Sinfix haven't really demonstrated this yet. The reality is even after an assault weapons ban, you'll still be able to purchase an assault weapon. I don't understand how people believe you won't be able to. It's baffling my mind right now.
    We should never legalize weed, since banning it and spending billions of dollars to prevent it's use hasnt stopped people from using it. People who risk legal punishment to acquire weed should take comfort in knowing that even though weed is illegal, the government isnt competent enough to enforce the law.


    You are baffling my mind right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Its a bogus question. You would know that if you had a degree in psychology.

    Cars and drivers are not limited to being used at full ability, nor have to be used at all.
    1. its not a bogus question. I agree its not a great idea for everyone to be able to drive a Vette. Some people can not handle its capability, or the consequences that come with the capability. Mentally or physically.

    2. I haven't said at all that they are limited to being used at full capacity. The available capability is there from the second you purchase it, so we must assume that the cars full capability is available to everyone that purchases one.

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    What are some ways we already employ to restrict people from purchasing cars with high capabilities, policy or otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    We should never legalize weed, since banning it and spending billions of dollars to prevent it's use hasnt stopped people from using it. People who risk legal punishment to acquire weed should take comfort in knowing that even though weed is illegal, the government isnt competent enough to enforce the law.


    You are baffling my mind right now.
    There is more than a ban in place when it comes to weed. You know this. You can't compare the two. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    What are some ways we already employ to restrict people from purchasing cars with high capabilities, policy or otherwise?
    If you get caught going over 30 mph over the speed limit, it doesn't matter what type of car you are in, or if you are at the limit of the cars abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    There is more than a ban in place when it comes to weed. You know this. You can't compare the two. Sorry.
    Sure you can. Weed is illegal but that hasn't done anything to keep people from buying it, using it, or growing it. These people still choose to be criminals.

    Guns would be no different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    If you get caught going over 30 mph over the speed limit, it doesn't matter what type of car you are in, or if you are at the limit of the cars abilities.
    Ok. You can get a speeding ticket. That is a reactive solution to really powerful cars. What are some proactive methods we use to stop people from committing crimes in very capable cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    1. its not a bogus question. I agree its not a great idea for everyone to be able to drive a Vette. Some people can not handle its capability, or the consequences that come with the capability. Mentally or physically.

    2. I haven't said at all that they are limited to being used at full capacity. The available capability is there from the second you purchase it, so we must assume that the cars full capability is available to everyone that purchases one.


    You can't assume that people will just incorrectly use it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Sure you can. Weed is illegal but that hasn't done anything to keep people from buying it, using it, or growing it. These people still choose to be criminals.
    Yes, weed is illegal, and people who use it are choosing to be criminals. Can you tell me how weed is different than guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Yes, weed is illegal, and people who use it are choosing to be criminals. Can you tell me how weed is different than guns?
    So your argument is that we shouldnt care if assault weapons are banned because we can still acquire them illegally?

    do you realize how fucking stupid that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You can't assume that people will just incorrectly use it though.
    Again. I am not assuming all people are going to use it incorrectly. I am assuming that in any given high end sports car, that the cars full capabilities are available to anyone that purchases one. Is that incorrect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Ok. You can get a speeding ticket. That is a reactive solution to really powerful cars. What are some proactive methods we use to stop people from committing crimes in very capable cars?
    Driving is a priviledge, not a Constitutional right.
    For 30 over, you usually will have your license suspended and a monetary fine. You can easily spend some time in jail if the officer chooses to arrest you as well.
    We do not force throttle or speed limiters on cars to limit them to the speed limit. People are expected to know to be responsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    If we could save just one life ...
    Let me be clear... No system is going to be perfect.



    But, I..I..I.I.I.I.III...I know, if Congress will get serious about this. We can all agree on a balanced approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    So your argument is that we shouldnt care if assault weapons are banned because we can still acquire them illegally?

    do you realize how fucking stupid that is?
    I'm not even comparing weed to guns at all! Lol.

    Jump jump jump jump jump jump jump jump. Conclusions'll make ya....

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Yes, weed is illegal, and people who use it are choosing to be criminals. Can you tell me how weed is different than guns?
    Sure. Weed hampers your judgment when you are in an altered state. Guns don't enter your body and do that. Perhaps you are on an altered state as you don't seem to understand something so simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    Let me be clear... No system is going to be perfect.



    But, I..I..I.I.I.I.III...I know, if Congress will get serious about this. We can all agree on a balanced approach.
    Congress is getting serious about denying the over reaches of the radical left that are in an effort to strip us of our constitutional rights. Thankfully there's people like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Again. I am not assuming all people are going to use it incorrectly. I am assuming that in any given high end sports car, that the cars full capabilities are available to anyone that purchases one. Is that incorrect?
    You must have bought a slow car, like a Civic, if you are asking this question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    For 30 over, you usually will have your license suspended and a monetary fine. You can easily spend some time in jail if the officer chooses to arrest you as well.
    What are some proactive methods we already employ to limit the number of crimes committed with cars, policy or otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I'm not even comparing weed to guns at all! Lol.

    Jump jump jump jump jump jump jump jump. Conclusions'll make ya....
    You keep saying that we should learn from you but when we do learn to just jump to conclusions like you do, then you complain. Make up your mind.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You must have bought a slow car, like a Civic, if you are asking this question.
    Can you or can you not buy a GTR straight off the dealership lot and do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, yes or no? I don't know how I could make that any simpler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    What are some proactive methods we already employ to limit the number of crimes committed with cars, policy or otherwise?
    We do not outlaw/ban any cars based upon their capability to be used illegally. Stay on course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You keep saying that we should learn from you but when we do learn to just jump to conclusions like you do, then you complain. Make up your mind.....
    I haven't come to a conclusion yet because the subject keeps getting derailed by stupid comparisons to weed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Can you or can you not buy a GTR straight off the dealership lot and do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, yes or no? I don't know how I could make that any simpler.
    I can't afford a GTR and I am not a C&D or R&T driver, so no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    I haven't come to a conclusion yet because the subject keeps getting derailed by stupid comparisons to weed.
    Maybe that means you need to smoke some?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    We do not outlaw/ban any cars based upon their capability to be used illegally. Stay on course.
    This is false, and i am on course. Sinfix wants an analogy to high powered cars.

    So again the question is, what methods, policy or otherwise, do we use to limit people purchasing and using high powered cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    This is false, and i am on course. Sinfix wants an analogy to high powered cars.

    So again the question is, what methods, policy or otherwise, do we use to limit people purchasing and using high powered cars?
    None..... punish people who speed, not for having cars capable of speeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    None..... punish people who speed, not for having cars capable of speeding.
    No one is punished for having a car capable of speeding, and everyone is already punished for speeding

    What is a way we already control who gets highly capable cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    This is false, and i am on course. Sinfix wants an analogy to high powered cars.

    So again the question is, what methods, policy or otherwise, do we use to limit people purchasing and using high powered cars?
    Give me a list of cars that we are not allowed to purchase based on their ability to go in excess of 70mph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    No one is punished for having a car capable of speeding, and everyone is already punished for speeding

    What is a way we already control who gets highly capable cars?
    Define highly capable car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Define highly capable car.
    Sinfix said corvette. So anything north of that. Vette's, lambos, Ferrari's, GTR's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    Give me a list of cars that we are not allowed to purchase based on their ability to go in excess of 70mph.
    Whoa, don't get ahead of yourself. I said "limit"....

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    No one is punished for having a car capable of speeding, and everyone is already punished for speeding

    What is a way we already control who gets highly capable cars?
    Obama stand in front of the cameras with a group of drunk driving victims and says " these poor kids were slaughtered by a corvette owner..... people dont need to have cars as capable as a corvette..... these poor kids didnt stand a chance of moving out of the corvettes way...... if we can save one life, then we have to try..... i support banning corvettes...... we deserve a vote....... these kids deserve a vote........ atlanta deserves a vote...... newyork deserves a vote"

    Banning corvettes is punishment to everyone who owns and enjoys them responsibly, its also punishment to the manufacturers or corvettes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Sinfix said corvette. So anything north of that. Vette's, lambos, Ferrari's, GTR's.
    What about Honda Accords? They go way over the speed limit. In fact, what cars do we have that CAN'T go over the speed limit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Whoa, don't get ahead of yourself. I said "limit"....
    I'm just keeping it on course with the gun discussion. Give me a list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Whoa, don't get ahead of yourself. I said "limit"....
    Speed limits.....


    there, im playing this game. Make your point so it can be easily refuted.

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