Nobody forcing you to revisit this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbow
Taking a glance at the news on a daily basis is a foreign concept to people today...... that's how Obama gets elected in the first place, people like you.
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Nobody forcing you to revisit this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbow
Taking a glance at the news on a daily basis is a foreign concept to people today...... that's how Obama gets elected in the first place, people like you.
According to you the news is all biased, so naturally looking at the news would just be stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
People like me. lol You don't know who I voted for.
All news that doesn't fit his convoluted worldview is bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elbow
Your arrogance is the only thing that surpasses your ignorance.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
I know. I know...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Whoa double take! Wait a sec, is Sinflix saying that black people should remember history and that they shouldn't have a false sense of security since it could happen again? This is a big step forward from his previous suggestion to "just get over it and move on" when it comes to black people and history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
You should read the book "Revisionist History and its Practical Applications When Arguing Against Obama" By SinfixQuote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
Do need to get over it and move on.... doesnt mean they cant learn something from the experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
I guess I'm not sure how you distinguish the two. How is black people organizing to make sure their rights aren't trampled on so different from gun owners organizing to make sure their rights aren't trampled on? It seems to me blacks have a lot more recent and domestic history supporting their concerns than gun advocates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
When some crazy kid shoots up a school, gun owners dont rush to the defense of the kid and make claims that the system was out to get the kid or that it wouldnt have happened if the kid was white/black or whatever.....Quote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
If a guy with a knife stabs a guy with a gun, gun owners wouldnt say that it only happened because he had a gun.
If a guy with a gun gets pulled over for doing 65 in a school zone with no tag and a missing tail light, the gun owner wouldnt say he only got pulled over because he was a gun owner.
The victim mentality needs to go. "because im black" might be the most overused excuse in the history of humanity. Nobody faults black people or anyone else for fighting for their rights and freedoms, but the black community as a whole seems to either ignore their problems or blame them on someone else.
So you agree there is nothing wrong with black groups in theory? Also, I must have missed the black kid who shot up a school and had a horde of supporters behind him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Whether i think there is something wrong with them or not doesnt matter. It's a free country. My problem lies only with the double standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
It matters with respect to whether you are consistent about what groups of people should be allowed to organize and on what basis they do. While you may feel that you are attacking double standards, it often comes off as attacking a particular race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Maybe the double standard often is a particular race and if the bias wasnt so, the bias wouldnt be present in my argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
i need cliffs of this thread. from just reading the OP, it sounds stupid...
Where's the liberty?
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Originally Posted by bu villain
Maybe I am reading this wrong, but are you suggesting that standing up for the second amendment is the same as supporting Lanza?
Oh, black kid shoots up school?
Atlanta School Shooting Update: Gang dispute was behind gunfire that wounded teen, police say - Crimesider - CBS News
One dead in gang shooting outside Houston high school | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
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Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Dont think that's what he meant.
TL;DRQuote:
Originally Posted by jR1_kS14
Obama is going door to door collecting all guns from assault rifles to pea shooters. OP suggests we should ban cars as well
I wonder what would happen if that happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
I suspect than his feet would get tired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Yeah, he would probably be greeted by the smiling faces of people who are happy with his presidency everywhere that he went.Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
That is absolutely not what I am saying. Sinflix was saying when a black person murders someone, black organizations all support the criminal. I was saying I can't think of an instance where a black person shot up a bunch of students and then had the community supporting him for it. I don't think any person supports Lanza or a cold blooded murderer of innocent people period.Quote:
Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Black people/organizations often come to the aid or sympathize with black criminals. I may have taken it a bit far with using that as an analogy..... but.....Quote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
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I think Chris Dorner's beef was legitimate and I am sympathetic to his anger. What I have no tolerance for is how he handled it. You can sympathize with how a person was treated and still be disgusted with their actions later. I don't think anyone was defending Dorner's murderous actions. Show me one black group that said the people he killed deserved to die.
You must not have twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
The contrast between Chris Dorner and Chris Kyle reaction from the left was pretty striking.
You're right. Feel free to show me some twitter quotes from prominent black groups defending Dorner's murders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
The two situations were completely different, why would you even think to compare them. Chris Kyle's story was just tragic, he was not treated unfairly for doing the right thing and he didn't go on a murderous spree. Also, I thought we were talking about black groups, not "the left".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Simply because the stories rolled out in social media as follows.....Quote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
Chris Kyle who was helping soldiers with mental illness recover and was shot by one of those soldiers unexpectedly and at point blank range.
Media: Chris Kyle was a professional murderer who got what he deserved, the fact that he was a professional sniper and was still killed proves how useless having a gun to defend yourself is. If guns cant protect you in the hands of a sniper, who thinks they will protect the common man.
Chris Dorner was a disgruntled employee who went on a shooting rampage to extract revenge on those he felt had mistreated him. He showed no mercy to the families of those he took vengeance on.
Media: Chris Dorner is a black man fighting back against the system that seeks to oppress him. The evil police system made sure to kill him so that the truth was not revealed. He is a hero.
http://www.examiner.com/article/libe...eal-chris-kyle
http://www.inquisitr.com/516688/accu...t-on-facebook/
http://tideturning.org/generaltaco/c...lack-superman/
"black superman"
First of all, you can't compare the two. They're different incidents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Second. What makes the commenters in the first link "liberal"?
I don't see how a handful of random people on twitter talking shit about Chris Kyle's death means that "the media" is against Chris Kyle. Were any of those users part of the "media"? And to the original point, I still don't see how this relates to a double standard of white criminals vs black criminals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Ironically, your article states "Eerily overlapping with the habits of James Holmes’ minor fanbase" which shows that both white and black murderers have some supporters. Again, a random group of individuals on facebook and twitter are not "the media". You can find groups on facebook and twitter who support child abuse, nazism, and all sorts of sordid things. Social media gives a public outlet for every disturbed, anti-social, and depraved troll. Their mere existence can not be used to imply that their thoughts are somehow mainstream or common at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
Not comparing the two, im comparing the collective reactions regarding a white soldier who was murdered and a black soldier who was a murderer.Quote:
Originally Posted by .blank cd
It was more than a "handful".... keep going through the linksQuote:
Originally Posted by bu villain
If you can group them into one page of an article, it accounts for a handful of tweets among the millions of tweets every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinfix_15
What makes the comments in the first link "liberal"?
So the first couple articles are from obviously fringe groups (who don't like Obama by the way).
Did you even read the portland radicle one because it is not pro Chris Dorner. It states "but unfortunately Dorner, and his alleged actions, aren’t the answer" and "Chris Dorner is no solution. He’s symptomatic of the problem".
The fourth article's evidence is Facebook pages: “I Support Christopher Jordan Dorner” (over 7,700 “likes”), and “LAPD Cop Killer Christopher Dorner is A HERO” (over 300 “likes”). A whopping 8000/300,000,000 = .000025% of the population assuming all the likes are from Americans. They also talk about how some lefties didn't tweet enough about his anti-gun stance or pro Mia Farrow stance. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of murder.
Unfortunately I can't read the "black superman" one so I will reserve judgement on that one.
Can you present some official statements from the NAACP or a mainstream black group supporting his murders? Random blog posts from no name people in no name blogs isn't sufficient evidence for mainstream acceptance of their ideas.