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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Whoa double take! Wait a sec, is Sinflix saying that black people should remember history and that they shouldn't have a false sense of security since it could happen again? This is a big step forward from his previous suggestion to "just get over it and move on" when it comes to black people and history.
    Do need to get over it and move on.... doesnt mean they cant learn something from the experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Do need to get over it and move on.... doesnt mean they cant learn something from the experience.
    I guess I'm not sure how you distinguish the two. How is black people organizing to make sure their rights aren't trampled on so different from gun owners organizing to make sure their rights aren't trampled on? It seems to me blacks have a lot more recent and domestic history supporting their concerns than gun advocates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    I guess I'm not sure how you distinguish the two. How is black people organizing to make sure their rights aren't trampled on so different from gun owners organizing to make sure their rights aren't trampled on? It seems to me blacks have a lot more recent and domestic history supporting their concerns than gun advocates.
    When some crazy kid shoots up a school, gun owners dont rush to the defense of the kid and make claims that the system was out to get the kid or that it wouldnt have happened if the kid was white/black or whatever.....

    If a guy with a knife stabs a guy with a gun, gun owners wouldnt say that it only happened because he had a gun.

    If a guy with a gun gets pulled over for doing 65 in a school zone with no tag and a missing tail light, the gun owner wouldnt say he only got pulled over because he was a gun owner.




    The victim mentality needs to go. "because im black" might be the most overused excuse in the history of humanity. Nobody faults black people or anyone else for fighting for their rights and freedoms, but the black community as a whole seems to either ignore their problems or blame them on someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    When some crazy kid shoots up a school, gun owners dont rush to the defense of the kid and make claims that the system was out to get the kid or that it wouldnt have happened if the kid was white/black or whatever.....

    If a guy with a knife stabs a guy with a gun, gun owners wouldnt say that it only happened because he had a gun.

    If a guy with a gun gets pulled over for doing 65 in a school zone with no tag and a missing tail light, the gun owner wouldnt say he only got pulled over because he was a gun owner.

    The victim mentality needs to go. "because im black" might be the most overused excuse in the history of humanity. Nobody faults black people or anyone else for fighting for their rights and freedoms, but the black community as a whole seems to either ignore their problems or blame them on someone else.
    So you agree there is nothing wrong with black groups in theory? Also, I must have missed the black kid who shot up a school and had a horde of supporters behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    So you agree there is nothing wrong with black groups in theory? Also, I must have missed the black kid who shot up a school and had a horde of supporters behind him.
    Whether i think there is something wrong with them or not doesnt matter. It's a free country. My problem lies only with the double standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Whether i think there is something wrong with them or not doesnt matter. It's a free country. My problem lies only with the double standard.
    It matters with respect to whether you are consistent about what groups of people should be allowed to organize and on what basis they do. While you may feel that you are attacking double standards, it often comes off as attacking a particular race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    It matters with respect to whether you are consistent about what groups of people should be allowed to organize and on what basis they do. While you may feel that you are attacking double standards, it often comes off as attacking a particular race.
    Maybe the double standard often is a particular race and if the bias wasnt so, the bias wouldnt be present in my argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Also, I must have missed the black kid who shot up a school and had a horde of supporters behind him.

    Maybe I am reading this wrong, but are you suggesting that standing up for the second amendment is the same as supporting Lanza?


    Oh, black kid shoots up school?

    Atlanta School Shooting Update: Gang dispute was behind gunfire that wounded teen, police say - Crimesider - CBS News
    One dead in gang shooting outside Houston high school | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Maybe I am reading this wrong, but are you suggesting that standing up for the second amendment is the same as supporting Lanza?


    Oh, black kid shoots up school?

    Atlanta School Shooting Update: Gang dispute was behind gunfire that wounded teen, police say - Crimesider - CBS News
    One dead in gang shooting outside Houston high school | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth

    Dont think that's what he meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy View Post
    Maybe I am reading this wrong, but are you suggesting that standing up for the second amendment is the same as supporting Lanza?


    Oh, black kid shoots up school?

    Atlanta School Shooting Update: Gang dispute was behind gunfire that wounded teen, police say - Crimesider - CBS News
    One dead in gang shooting outside Houston high school | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
    That is absolutely not what I am saying. Sinflix was saying when a black person murders someone, black organizations all support the criminal. I was saying I can't think of an instance where a black person shot up a bunch of students and then had the community supporting him for it. I don't think any person supports Lanza or a cold blooded murderer of innocent people period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    That is absolutely not what I am saying. Sinflix was saying when a black person murders someone, black organizations all support the criminal. I was saying I can't think of an instance where a black person shot up a bunch of students and then had the community supporting him for it. I don't think any person supports Lanza or a cold blooded murderer of innocent people period.
    Black people/organizations often come to the aid or sympathize with black criminals. I may have taken it a bit far with using that as an analogy..... but.....


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