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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    if you dont know why im referencing an AR15 specifically then you must not own a fucking television... sometimes i swear you liberal bitches are just reading note cards and not even paying attention to current events.
    I know WHY you mentioned an AR15, but that just shows once again you're literally too stupid to process the words in a post as you just showed again. Like I swear you have to just be joking 98% of the time just to have an argument, there's no way anyone that has as much thoughts as you can be as stupid as you portray yourself to be.

    Sometimes I swear you republicans never made it out of elementary school. I guess I should jump on the "republican vs democrat" bandwagon around here since you split the country into two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    I know WHY you mentioned an AR15, but that just shows once again you're literally too stupid to process the words in a post as you just showed again. Like I swear you have to just be joking 98% of the time just to have an argument, there's no way anyone that has as much thoughts as you can be as stupid as you portray yourself to be.

    Sometimes I swear you republicans never made it out of elementary school. I guess I should jump on the "republican vs democrat" bandwagon around here since you split the country into two.
    ok, let me show you a magic trick.... go back through what i just said.... replace "ar15" with "assault weapon".....

    You havnt made a single valid point about anything.... yet you continue to critique my argument. You think your mindset is normal and insult me..........

    when you really said "if the government came after me i would shoot myself".....

    if you think that thought is either rational or commonly accepted..... GO CHECK YOUR FUCKING DUMBASS INTO A MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    ok, let me show you a magic trick.... go back through what i just said.... replace "ar15" with "assault weapon".....

    You havnt made a single valid point about anything.... yet you continue to critique my argument. You think your mindset is normal and insult me..........

    when you really said "if the government came after me i would shoot myself".....

    if you think that thought is either rational or commonly accepted..... GO CHECK YOUR FUCKING DUMBASS INTO A MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL!!!!!
    Yeah because I would really shoot myself? lol Why bother having a rational debate with someone that doesn't understand others viewpoints? Although I don't see how you could hold off our military if they came looking for a fight and I personally wouldn't want to shoot people just to then live in turmoil until I die of some other cause. Of course this is so off the wall nobody can really judge what they would do in that situation. If the military tried to "take us or kill us" more than likely you wouldn't have the chance to shoot back.

    The question served no "assault weapon ban" question and had nothing to do with indicating that it's stupid to own guns. I had not heard until recently so many people complaining mainly because they felt they wouldn't be able to fight off the US government if a ban or restrictions were put into place and I wanted to see how many actually saw it like that. I'm aware what the Constitution says and how it was written, but I never knew people took it so literal in 2013 that they thought guns may protect them in that sense. So I decided to see some more viewpoints.

    Simple. As. That.

    You took it as an insult against your precious love for clearly the AR15. You didn't read or think and started attacking me as you typically do with other members as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Yeah because I would really shoot myself? lol Why bother having a rational debate with someone that doesn't understand others viewpoints? Although I don't see how you could hold off our military if they came looking for a fight and I personally wouldn't want to shoot people just to then live in turmoil until I die of some other cause. Of course this is so off the wall nobody can really judge what they would do in that situation. If the military tried to "take us or kill us" more than likely you wouldn't have the chance to shoot back.

    The question served no "assault weapon ban" question and had nothing to do with indicating that it's stupid to own guns. I had not heard until recently so many people complaining mainly because they felt they wouldn't be able to fight off the US government if a ban or restrictions were put into place and I wanted to see how many actually saw it like that. I'm aware what the Constitution says and how it was written, but I never knew people took it so literal in 2013 that they thought guns may protect them in that sense. So I decided to see some more viewpoints.

    Simple. As. That.

    You took it as an insult against your precious love for clearly the AR15. You didn't read or think and started attacking me as you typically do with other members as well.
    as a LAST RESORT against tyranny...... LAST RESORT LAST RESORT LAST RESORT.................

    This doesnt mean that we should hang "gobberment attack plan" beside the fire escape plan. It's a last resort preparation for the worst. Believe it or not... once upon a time before we became a nation where 1-7 people were on food stamps... we were a nation that was prepared for everything.

    Government tyranny.... probable? no.... likely? no..... possible? absolutely... as historical data would prove. During the last 100 years on this planet... more people have been killed by their own governments than any foreign attacker. Right now.... as we speak.... at this very moment.... someone is being fired upon by their own government.



    • Under Lenin and Stalin, the Soviet government became
    one of the world’s greatest killers. Lenin’s policies in
    1921-1922 caused an estimated 4 million deaths and
    in 1932, Stalin ordered that the Ukraine be starved to enforce collectivisation policies and to crush
    Ukrainian nationalism resulting in the murder of at least 8 million Ukrainians
    • Between 1917 and 1953 (the year of Stalin’s death), the Soviet Union executed, in one way or another,
    some 40 million people and many Russian and international historians estimate the figure to be even
    higher
    • In China, under Mao Tse Tung, 2 million dissidents or `class enemies’ were shot and another one
    million Tibetans and Turkestani Muslims were `liquidated.’ Between 1950 and 1975, an estimated 30
    million people starved to death with another two million dying during the Cultural Revolution. This
    amounts to a total of some 35 million people
    • Hitler and the Nazis were responsible for the deaths of 12 million civilians, half of them Jews
    • An estimated two million German civilians were killed in 1945, and at least 200,000 died in
    concentration camps between 1945 and 1953. The Allied forces ‘handed back’ an estimated 2 million
    Soviet citizens to Stalin in 1945: half of them were shot and the rest sent to Arctic camps where many of
    them died
    • During World War I, the Ottoman Empire murdered or starved up to 2 million Armenians, the first
    great genocide of the new century
    • In the early 1960’s, 600,000 ethnic Chinese were massacred in Indonesia by government-encouraged
    mobs and soldiers
    • During the Marcos era in the Philippines, 75,000 Muslims were massacred by government paramilitary
    gangs
    • In 1971, Pakistani troops killed tens of thousands of Bengalis in former East Pakistan. Indian security
    forces and police have massacred great numbers of tribespeople in border regions and many civilians in
    Kashmir and Punjab
    • Between 1975 and 1979, an estimated 2 million people were killed in Cambodia during the regime of
    Pol Pot
    • In the 1980’s, Ethiopia’s then Marxist regime through a series of policies including forced relocation
    caused the deaths of an estimated million people, often through starvation
    • 1994 witnessed the slaughter of an estimated 800,000 Tutsis and Hutu ‘dissidents’ at the hands of
    Rwanda’s Hutu government
    • Serbia’s nationalist regime orchestrated the massacre of 200,000 Muslim civilians in Bosnia between
    1992 and 1995.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    as a LAST RESORT against tyranny...... LAST RESORT LAST RESORT LAST RESORT.................

    This doesnt mean that we should hang "gobberment attack plan" beside the fire escape plan. It's a last resort preparation for the worst. Believe it or not... once upon a time before we became a nation where 1-7 people were on food stamps... we were a nation that was prepared for everything.

    Government tyranny.... probable? no.... likely? no..... possible? absolutely... as historical data would prove. During the last 100 years on this planet... more people have been killed by their own governments than any foreign attacker. Right now.... as we speak.... at this very moment.... someone is being fired upon by their own government.



    • Under Lenin and Stalin, the Soviet government became
    one of the world’s greatest killers. Lenin’s policies in
    1921-1922 caused an estimated 4 million deaths and
    in 1932, Stalin ordered that the Ukraine be starved to enforce collectivisation policies and to crush
    Ukrainian nationalism resulting in the murder of at least 8 million Ukrainians
    • Between 1917 and 1953 (the year of Stalin’s death), the Soviet Union executed, in one way or another,
    some 40 million people and many Russian and international historians estimate the figure to be even
    higher
    • In China, under Mao Tse Tung, 2 million dissidents or `class enemies’ were shot and another one
    million Tibetans and Turkestani Muslims were `liquidated.’ Between 1950 and 1975, an estimated 30
    million people starved to death with another two million dying during the Cultural Revolution. This
    amounts to a total of some 35 million people
    • Hitler and the Nazis were responsible for the deaths of 12 million civilians, half of them Jews
    • An estimated two million German civilians were killed in 1945, and at least 200,000 died in
    concentration camps between 1945 and 1953. The Allied forces ‘handed back’ an estimated 2 million
    Soviet citizens to Stalin in 1945: half of them were shot and the rest sent to Arctic camps where many of
    them died
    • During World War I, the Ottoman Empire murdered or starved up to 2 million Armenians, the first
    great genocide of the new century
    • In the early 1960’s, 600,000 ethnic Chinese were massacred in Indonesia by government-encouraged
    mobs and soldiers
    • During the Marcos era in the Philippines, 75,000 Muslims were massacred by government paramilitary
    gangs
    • In 1971, Pakistani troops killed tens of thousands of Bengalis in former East Pakistan. Indian security
    forces and police have massacred great numbers of tribespeople in border regions and many civilians in
    Kashmir and Punjab
    • Between 1975 and 1979, an estimated 2 million people were killed in Cambodia during the regime of
    Pol Pot
    • In the 1980’s, Ethiopia’s then Marxist regime through a series of policies including forced relocation
    caused the deaths of an estimated million people, often through starvation
    • 1994 witnessed the slaughter of an estimated 800,000 Tutsis and Hutu ‘dissidents’ at the hands of
    Rwanda’s Hutu government
    • Serbia’s nationalist regime orchestrated the massacre of 200,000 Muslim civilians in Bosnia between
    1992 and 1995.
    You could have just posted that and I would have respected that answer.

    I do appreciate the legitimate reply though.

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