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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    So, since its not about labor, and simply about skill, what do you think about paying teachers multi millions?
    Some teachers are more qualified than others. There's lesson plans and guides for them to follow. Some of them are simply managing a class room and following their lesson plan, theyre not teaching what they know. Works the same as any other job.... a guy who changes oil doesnt get paid the same as Chip Foose. A 7th grade teacher who prints work sheets out of a lesson plan doesnt get paid as much as a professor at Yale.

    College professors make 80-200k a year, the big time colleges list their "avg professor" pay rates all above 190k... they can also get paid for lectures or publications they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfix_15 View Post
    Some teachers are more qualified than others. There's lesson plans and guides for them to follow. Some of them are simply managing a class room and following their lesson plan, theyre not teaching what they know. Works the same as any other job.... a guy who changes oil doesnt get paid the same as Chip Foose. A 7th grade teacher who prints work sheets out of a lesson plan doesnt get paid as much as a professor at Yale.

    College professors make 80-200k a year, the big time colleges list their "avg professor" pay rates all above 190k... they can also get paid for lectures or publications they do.
    Who do you think makes lesson plans? LOL. I can see you dont know any teachers. Typically they make their own lesson plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    Who do you think makes lesson plans? LOL. I can see you dont know any teachers. Typically they make their own lesson plans.
    Knowing a teacher wouldnt change it. Like anyone else..... they would act like their job was the hardest job in the world and boast about it's difficulty. I've actually known many teachers on a personal level. One of my life long friend's mom was a teacher when we were in high school and still is today. She graded papers and followed the lesson plans from the book. An exgf's mom was a sub teacher and she was a trailer park scumbag who sold weed to some of the students. One of my teacher's who i was friendly enough with to hang out as his house and even went on vacation with always talked about the female students he would bang... ironically.... this guy was probably the most difficult and influential teachers the school had. My old roommate's sister was a teacher. I've had a lot of "behind the scenes" time with teachers...

    Some love their job and care about the students, some clock in and clock out. I'm not sure how to fix the problem. I dont think a pay raise would make the ones that dont care do any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    $40? are you serious? lol. Come on dude, I never even came close to thinking an amount not even half of that.

    I would say $9-10. is a good minimum wage. Mcdonald's is a joke anyways. Managers make $8.25 in my town LOL.
    People in Mcdonalds don't work as hard as people in factories making $8. This is what I mostly target.
    INFLATION.

    if you start paying workers inflated salaries, the COG go up exponentially. So your .99 cent value meal will become $2 . how do you guys not get this
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    Quote Originally Posted by .blank cd View Post
    So, since its not about labor, and simply about skill, what do you think about paying teachers multi millions?
    teachers SHOULD get paid more, they cuold be making in the 6 figures, but the Union keeps them from making good money. FACT. Watch WAITING FOR SUPERMAN
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    Nelson, I agree with you that capitalism doesn't always lead to pricing of goods and labor I would consider "fair". However, I don't see any easy answers and I think raising minimum wage wouldn't help much as prices would adjust upwards to compensate. Despite what some others on here say, there is inefficiency in our labor market and there are many barriers that keep people from leaving a bad job (location, family, education, etc). If we want real world capitalism to behave closer to theory, we need to find ways to reduce those barriers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
    Nelson, I agree with you that capitalism doesn't always lead to pricing of goods and labor I would consider "fair". However, I don't see any easy answers and I think raising minimum wage wouldn't help much as prices would adjust upwards to compensate. Despite what some others on here say, there is inefficiency in our labor market and there are many barriers that keep people from leaving a bad job (location, family, education, etc). If we want real world capitalism to behave closer to theory, we need to find ways to reduce those barriers.
    Education is the biggest problem with people in low wage jobs. The vast majority ignored their education early in life and because of the terrible job done by schools and parents they were simply forwarded to the next grade without the tools to succeed. By the time they reach HS they are so far behind they simply give up and drop out. The same can be said of college. Kids with a poor HS education get to college and realize they are way behind and give up.

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