Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
Well the dems have had unlimited spending in the last 3 years. The GOP isnt in any position to give any concessions. The economy has gotten WORSE and the debt is higher. The dems want to continue spending and raising taxes which hasnt worked YET. So the GOP is basically saying we did it your way for 3 years, its obviously not working, lets at least not spend anymore, and raising taxes will just hurt jobs even more.
And if the American people agree with you then those Democrats will get voted out in their next election. But until that happens, we still need a working government, not gridlock. If the GOP is prepared to be held accountable if they debt ceiling is not raised, then by all means they should continue the way they are going.

Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
The dems would like a up or down vote they could win. but they cant, because the GOP controls the house.

The GOP wont do a up or down vote because they want to use this as leverage to cut spending. They know obama needs to borrow more money , and by controlling 50% of the entity that can give him that, they are using it as leverage to get what they want, spending cuts.
Are you saying a majority of the GOP doesn't want to raise the debt ceiling? Because if they do want it raised, they are saying they will vote against their own goal (raise the debt ceiling) just to try to and get more of what they want (spending cuts). That seems both disengenuous and unethical to me. If they truly do not want the debt ceiling raised then I understand their tactics even if I don't agree with that position.