So Obama just put raising taxes on the table...

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Probably a waste of time as common sense is not so common around here but lets have some fun with this.

Now, burdened with astronomical student loan and personal debt, since tuition rates are skyrocketing by the minute and more and more fees arent covered by the loans , I get a well paying job in my field (lets just Computer I.T.) and a home and a car. Things go well for the first few years and I manage to tackle 60k bucks worth of college. The next year, a wife, and a child comes into the picture, and things go well until year 5. Me and 5000 my teammates all get laid off because the president of the company learned that a firm in India will do the job at 75% the cost of what we could do it for.

The business owner owes you nothing and owes his investors to make the business as profitable as legally possible.

Now Im working in a bar waiting tables,

No reason to stop looking for work i your field just because have that great job in the bar. Or how about taking on industry yourself and becoming an entrepreneur.

defaulting on credit cards,

If you are using credit cards when you are unemployed this is your own fault.

balloon payments on the house hit, then I get foreclosed on.

I guess you should have been a renter for a while longer and/or gotten a fixed rate mortgage. Again, a product of your own dumb decisions.

Why did he have to save so much money? To offset his income tax increase. This is all ok because it was smart business? Im just seeing if we're on the same page here because this example is what you just told me was smart business.

Dont confuse smart business with 'your' stupid life decisions. How is it your former employer's fault that you were stupid with your money, bought more house than you could afford, or used credit for things you couldnt afford?

This is why I focus on one part of your argument. Cause the rest of it sounded like utter garbage with zero facts, a bunch of rhetoric, and this.

You might want to look back over your own comments. I'm pretty sure that much of the same pieces of rhetoric you are espousing on us came straight from the Communist Manifesto.

And I really dont think its you're fault either dude. I think some far right wing corporate millionaire convinced you that the left is trying to screw you over, that socialism is the same thing as Nazism and communism, and that the tooth fairy is real.

Yea, I'm pretty buddy buddy with your average corporate millionaire extremist.

Now that you have admitted to being a socialist though, it does make most of your comments much easier to understand. You just dont have any real life experience to fall back on yet. You will get there at some point. Eventually you will learn that the govt is not your daddy. The govt is not looking out for your best interests. Someday you may even learn to make it on your own, without the govt propping you up.

I don't necessarily have a problem with some corporations. Take Apple for example. They make an excellent product. They CONSTANTLY R&D and innovate. I will buy them until they stop making them. They provide jobs for many people, alot of which they could bring here, but thats another argument. Borders had a great idea, get into the book business, everyone reads. Instant billionaires. But then times changed and books can be bought and read on my phone now. Instead of changing with the times, what did they do? The CEO thought that since his pockets were starting to get a little shallower, lets inflate prices. When that didn't work and customers stopped coming in? Lets fire some workers and close a couple stores, that'll work. Nope. So lets file chapter 11 (pun intended: see the chapter 11 bookstore, who also folded) and pay out bonuses to the executives (some of which, havent even been with the company for a year) before Bank of America turns it into Books of America. So no, that wasn't smart business. The CEO could have taken his 3 million dollar salary, and that 9 million dollars from wherever he got it from, and changed with the times, or innovated. 6000 people would still be employed, Borders would still be open, the CEO would still be making money. Instead of just one person winning, everyone wins.

Its ok to come over to the left side man, we have cake

For now, but who is going to buy the cake when all of the evil rich people are broke and living in the projects with the rest of you?