Before Obamacare I was paying less and still knew I had health care. In my world, the only thing I got out of Obamacare was added taxes and higher premiums.Originally Posted by nelson9995
if you have health insurance you dont have to worry about that now. If you dont have health insurance, why are you complaining about about having to pay for products and services you are receiving? Show me proof that it is over priced. She me where the same quality care is cheaper anywhere else in the world.
So health is more important than a couple of dollars, but you are afraid to goto the doc because of money? Would it be reasonable to say then, that you believe that your health care is worth the money, just so long as it isnt your money?
Wrong, I found a study a while back that says there is no real cost benefits to preventive care when looked at on a macro scale. Individual cases such as people found with early stage cancer will be cheaper, but the 100k other people that got check-ups and found nothing wrong used those same dollars that were saved on the cancer patient. If you care to look there is a link in one of the Obamacare threads here.
This bill also failed to account for some of the largest drains on our healthcare system.
1. Illegals are not going to be covered under this plan according to Obama. They are already the largest population of sponges on the system and hospitals typically have to write off everything they consume because they dont pay for services.
2. No tort reform or malpractice reforms were made. Because of the rising costs of malpractice insurance docs have to raise their rates. Malpractice insurance rates are going up because of the huge number of claims that are filed, a very vast majority of which turn out to be bogus. To protect themselves against malpractice suits, a doc will routinely engage in protective medicine. They will order tests and procedures that they know are useless or unneeded to protect themselves from these bogus claims.
Here is a pretty good article about defensive medicine.
http://www.aaos.org/news/aaosnow/nov08/managing7.asp
3.No reforms to medicaid and medicare to eliminate the hundreds of billions a year in fraud. Eliminate the fraud and you can cut 20% of their budget with absolutely no change in payouts for legitimate patients and treatments. Also, docs raise their costs to private individuals and insurers to make up for the money they lose on every medicare patient they see. The doc I go to has a sign up saying they are not accepting any new medicaid or medicare patients. This will get more and more common and the level of care medicare and medicaid patients receive will continue to fall unless reforms are made to actually pay docs what it costs to see these patients.
How are they doing that? It was a pretty simple question and you follow it up with yet another vague answer that really doesnt answer anything. HOW are businesses exploiting people and WHAT laws did the dems pass to prevent it.
And you didnt answer my last question.
How did it come to pass that working hard and becoming successful was a stigma? How does hard work and the benefits of it make you evil?
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