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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I know full numbers from Bush's last 2 years are not available yet, but if those number are correct, then Obama is just as bad as the evil Bush. All of this is even before we see the real cost of Obama's socialized healthcare also which I am expecting to top 1T in the first year and not the 687B over 10 years that Obama is talking about.


    I agree, that is why we see the market tumble every time Obama or Giethner give a speech about the economy. Yesterday was a perfect example. BoA was trading up about a dime before the speech, and started to tumble immediately after it. It closed about 0.90 down.
    bush did spend a lot on the war in iraq, but most people forget that last sept he pushed through 700B for toxic assets. now mr henry paulson was in charge of the money and it was funneled in the front door of AIG and out the back to goldmans sach. sadly everyone that is in charges of our financial crap came from goldmans sachs, and all our past folks too. sadly all this mon ey goin g out winds up in wall street and that is where the fingers are being pointed and the paper trail is running there too. bush's 700B was the first nail in the coffin. obama's 3 trillion was the last 10 nails for us. they all work for wall street, every damn cabinet member upwards does. nobody else remembers that mr obama promised that EVERY BILL that went through congress would be posted on the web for 5 days for the public to review and our congressman, well he lied there too b/c we have spent 4 trillion and that was done in less than 24hrs start to finish. the new boss is starting to look like the old boss. go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    market is built upon perception - market is doing good b/c steps gov is taking or working on not b/c it is just time for them to turn around.


    Im sorry, is that bullshit i smell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
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    Im sorry, is that bullshit i smell?
    Then please explain market Ups? b/c it isn't because of old policy or that we have bottomed out. Market is still very highly controlled by perception - people think we are moving forward they spend; even companies like mine are seeing some good numbers considering the slow past few quarters.
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    We just need to replace the entire house and senate. Vote no to re-elect. I like that idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F8d2Blk
    We just need to replace the entire house and senate. Vote no to re-elect. I like that idea.


    why wait for re-election thats 4 years from now. Vote them out now.... a lot of shit can happen in 4 years
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    Here is what I find so disturbing is all of the Right support on this why haven't these supporting republicans stood up and put pressure on their Governors on the stimulus money? I guarantee every RED state is taking a gov check and is eager to spend it.

    Kinda hypocritical when supporters of this are using Gov excess spending
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    why haven't these supporting republicans stood up and put pressure on their Governors on the stimulus money? I guarantee every RED state is taking a gov check and is eager to spend it. Kinda hypocritical when supporters of this are using Gov excess spending
    I know GA needs it's stimulus check pretty bad... over the past 2 fiscal years our operating budget has dropped 20%. If the state doesn't get a lot of the stimulus pie, layoffs could be a possibility. I know a lot of state contracts with private contractors are not getting renewed.

    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck
    so you have seen that too. that puts a lot of people in this country in that category, and people think im paranoid. WTF
    You wonder why the gov't is making reports about rightwing extremists and then somebody posts something like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    why wait for re-election thats 4 years from now. Vote them out now.... a lot of shit can happen in 4 years
    The House and Senate were voted in by the American people and the only seats up this year will be the 3 democratic seats of House members Obama selected for his cabinet. Even if they lose all 3 seats they still have a majority. So when you say "vote them out now" I assume you are insinuating some sort of coup. DHS is watching this type of chatter (because stupid idle threats like these are all over the internets) and they issue documents just to inform their staff as to whats going on.

    We have similar memos that circulate where I work about homeless people who come in and use the restrooms. Doesn't mean we have an agenda against the homeless, we're just staying informed about the potential for trouble...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    I know GA needs it's stimulus check pretty bad... over the past 2 fiscal years our operating budget has dropped 20%. If the state doesn't get a lot of the stimulus pie, layoffs could be a possibility. I know a lot of state contracts with private contractors are not getting renewed.



    You wonder why the gov't is making reports about rightwing extremists and then somebody posts something like this:



    The House and Senate were voted in by the American people and the only seats up this year will be the 3 democratic seats of House members Obama selected for his cabinet. Even if they lose all 3 seats they still have a majority. So when you say "vote them out now" I assume you are insinuating some sort of coup. DHS is watching this type of chatter (because stupid idle threats like these are all over the internets) and they issue documents just to inform their staff as to whats going on.

    We have similar memos that circulate where I work about homeless people who come in and use the restrooms. Doesn't mean we have an agenda against the homeless, we're just staying informed about the potential for trouble...

    LOL OMG ITS A RIGHT WING EXTREMIST WHOSE NOT HAPPY WITH HIS GOVT! HIDE THE FERTILIZER!

    Gimme a fucking break, what he said was no worse than Pelosi wanting to give amnesty to Illegals lol

    I respect your opinion, and i can see that nothing i say will change your mind, so im just going to leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    LOL OMG ITS A RIGHT WING EXTREMIST WHOSE NOT HAPPY WITH HIS GOVT! HIDE THE FERTILIZER!
    I don't think the DHS report was quite as much "ZOMG HIDE THE FERTILIZER!!!1!" as it was just a heads up that as it was just a heads up that activity from these fringe groups may be on the rise given the current economic/political climate. The talking heads on the right are over-reacting and blowing it way out of proportion.

    If any of you had read it you would have noticed the excessive use of the words "may," "might" etc. The report contains nothing that anyone with half a brain can't find on their own in 2 minutes using wikipedia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    The House and Senate were voted in by the American people and the only seats up this year will be the 3 democratic seats of House members Obama selected for his cabinet. Even if they lose all 3 seats they still have a majority. So when you say "vote them out now" I assume you are insinuating some sort of coup. DHS is watching this type of chatter (because stupid idle threats like these are all over the internets) and they issue documents just to inform their staff as to whats going on.

    We have similar memos that circulate where I work about homeless people who come in and use the restrooms. Doesn't mean we have an agenda against the homeless, we're just staying informed about the potential for trouble...

    unless something has changed i thought that people could vote out elected officials if they were unhappy with them..... has something changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    unless something has changed i thought that people could vote out elected officials if they were unhappy with them..... has something changed
    Very true but you have to wait until there is an election to do that... you can't just "vote them out right now". And from what I have read any GA seats are up for grabs until 2012. We do have early voting, but not that early.

    GA's senate seats are republican anyway so its not like you would make any change there. And out of the 13 house seats, 7 are republican. So the best the GOP can hope for in congress is to get 6 house seats... and some of those seats are down in South GA and as far as I know no one in this thread is from Americus or Macon or Statesboro. And I really doubt you guys will get the 5th and 13th districts.

    So like it or not, you're stuck with Obama and Pelosi for a while. Unless you want to secede from the union, stage a coup, or whatever else kind of veiled threats are in the Alex Jones rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    I know GA needs it's stimulus check pretty bad... over the past 2 fiscal years our operating budget has dropped 20%. If the state doesn't get a lot of the stimulus pie, layoffs could be a possibility. I know a lot of state contracts with private contractors are not getting renewed.



    You wonder why the gov't is making reports about rightwing extremists and then somebody posts something like this:



    The House and Senate were voted in by the American people and the only seats up this year will be the 3 democratic seats of House members Obama selected for his cabinet. Even if they lose all 3 seats they still have a majority. So when you say "vote them out now" I assume you are insinuating some sort of coup. DHS is watching this type of chatter (because stupid idle threats like these are all over the internets) and they issue documents just to inform their staff as to whats going on.

    We have similar memos that circulate where I work about homeless people who come in and use the restrooms. Doesn't mean we have an agenda against the homeless, we're just staying informed about the potential for trouble...
    damn you don't even know that in our own constitution the people have the right to give any elected official the boot. it is our right. we don't need to vote or even shed any blood either, it is our right, so put that in your pipe and smoke it. but here is the kicker, everyone is to caught up in BS TV shows and showing up to work to pay DEBT so nobody really does anything and recently more people are getting the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck
    damn you don't even know that in our own constitution the people have the right to give any elected official the boot. it is our right. we don't need to vote or even shed any blood either, it is our right, so put that in your pipe and smoke it. .
    Explain where it is in the constitution that you can do anything other than vote to remove an elected official from office. Provide text from the actual document and cite it properly. As far as I know according to article 2, section 2, clause 5, only the Senate can carry out proceedings for impeachment of members of Congress, the President/VP, or Supreme Court and federal judges. And only once has a member of Congress ever been impeached (TN senator William Blount in 1798), and even then the impeachment was thrown out.

    You guys can't do anything other than kick rocks untill the people you disagree with are up for election (and like I said its gonna be a while), and even then you can't do anything unless you happen to live in their district. You might not like Nancy Pelosi or Ted Kennedy, but their constituents apparently do because they keep voting for them. And none of you are their constituents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total_Blender
    Explain where it is in the constitution that you can do anything other than vote to remove an elected official from office. Provide text from the actual document and cite it properly. As far as I know according to article 2, section 2, clause 5, only the Senate can carry out proceedings for impeachment of members of Congress, the President/VP, or Supreme Court and federal judges. And only once has a member of Congress ever been impeached (TN senator William Blount in 1798), and even then the impeachment was thrown out.

    You guys can't do anything other than kick rocks untill the people you disagree with are up for election (and like I said its gonna be a while), and even then you can't do anything unless you happen to live in their district. You might not like Nancy Pelosi or Ted Kennedy, but their constituents apparently do because they keep voting for them. And none of you are their constituents.
    if i remember correctly if the people are not happy with an official then we can boot em, but as you know the rules change everyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    Here is what I find so disturbing is all of the Right support on this why haven't these supporting republicans stood up and put pressure on their Governors on the stimulus money? I guarantee every RED state is taking a gov check and is eager to spend it.

    Kinda hypocritical when supporters of this are using Gov excess spending
    i 100000% agree.

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    Well how did it go?

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    if 10 years from now,Iraq is prosperous and supplying us with oil and their deomcracy infects IRAN and it turns, this is all a moot point.

    But thats a long ways away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd
    if 10 years from now,Iraq is prosperous and supplying us with oil and their deomcracy infects IRAN and it turns, this is all a moot point.

    But thats a long ways away
    oh by all means but if history repeats itself in the middle east it is a lost cause and no matter how much intervention/$ is dumped into it we are screwed. regime or not iraq bin ladin connections were never there and we know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    oh by all means but if history repeats itself in the middle east it is a lost cause and no matter how much intervention/$ is dumped into it we are screwed. regime or not iraq bin ladin connections were never there and we know that.

    amen someone in this state finallysees that. the folks i used to work with swore iraq was behind 9/11, they didn't even know osama was in afghan, they thought he ruled iraq,
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    Originally Posted by Paul
    oh by all means but if history repeats itself in the middle east it is a lost cause and no matter how much intervention/$ is dumped into it we are screwed. regime or not iraq bin ladin connections were never there and we know that.


    Quote Originally Posted by preferredduck
    amen someone in this state finallysees that. the folks i used to work with swore iraq was behind 9/11, they didn't even know osama was in afghan, they thought he ruled iraq,


    But the kicker is that no matter who is on whos side all hell will break loose sooner or later.The rason that the middle east will stay that way for all time is because you have Islamic extremists trying to rid the world of everyone who doesn't believe thier ideals to a t. I don't care who you are you pay close attention to the Iran nuclear movement and to the Korean nuclear movement because that's where the real problems are going to come from and kill our economy! Yes the financial meltdown has weakend us but it will be an outside source the breaks the camels back.(no pun intended)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAMNORI





    But the kicker is that no matter who is on whos side all hell will break loose sooner or later.The rason that the middle east will stay that way for all time is because you have Islamic extremists trying to rid the world of everyone who doesn't believe thier ideals to a t. I don't care who you are you pay close attention to the Iran nuclear movement and to the Korean nuclear movement because that's where the real problems are going to come from and kill our economy! Yes the financial meltdown has weakend us but it will be an outside source the breaks the camels back.(no pun intended)
    yea look at isreal at the moment. i remember bush giving a televised speech and said "saddam" instead of osama talking about the WTC. i was like WTF?
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    so i'm sitting in traffic today and i'm listening to talk radio (which is something i don't normally do) and i can't believe some of the things i heard from the callers and the utter and complete lack of respect for the participants of the tea parties. When people were holding anti-war rallies and someone were to speak ill of them the media went nuts about it but since the party goers were going against the holy Obama they are free game? WTF? Who is anyone to sit here and say theses psople are wrong for thier beliefes. yes i disagree with people on here for thier stances on politics, but we are talking about being overtaxed overabused and underappreciated. Sorry for the rant but it was needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garofalo
    “Let’s be very honest about what this is about,” she said. “It’s not about bashing Democrats, it’s not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don’t know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks.”
    So do all liberals think that hating Obama's policies make you a racist redneck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    So do all liberals think that hating Obama's policies make you a racist redneck?
    Not all liberals, but if you watched the coverage from cnn during the tea party you'd see the Obama is the saviour that we've been told about since Jesus was crucified. If you don't admit that Obama is the second coming then yes you will be considered a racist and a biggot' but then again I don't agree with most of Obama's point of views so I'm in the same boat as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eraser4g63
    So when do we get to wear our white sheets?
    Lol. Don't we have to wait until after memorial day? The only reason i ask is because the Obama's are the center of facism oops fashion. Damn i get those two confused alot.
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    Lol, How did the Tea party go I couldn't make it i had some family stuff come up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eraser4g63
    Lol, How did the Tea party go I couldn't make it i had some family stuff come up.
    got called in to work to get some stuff ready for our new sales brochures(sp?) so i didn't go, however i am planning on going to the freedom festival this summer that is planned... so atleast i got to follow it on t.v. at work. Really surprised at how big of a turnout there was. I think the final tally was 15-20k.
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