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    I have said it before, and I will say it again. Listen to Obama's speeches, rally's, and even read the website. He has stated several times that America's problems cannot be solved in one term, but his efforts are to change the mind of the greedy America. There is no compassion left in this country, our $$ are spent on random shit, people are being fooled into agreements that severly hamper their lives, and to top it all off we don't take care of home.

    All the points above have been answered pretty well by Paul. Obama's first four years are going to get the ball rolling to restore America. He will make changes that will impact the country immediately, but not solve EVERYTHING in 4. He is sitting up now choosing a cabinet and preparing to get to work day 1.

    All we can do is hope for the best. I firmly believe that the next 4 will not get worse, and if he has to hand the reigns over in 2012, the President elect will want to continue the directional shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    but his efforts are to change the mind of the greedy America.
    What about changin the minds of those expecting their handouts on every 1st and 15th? Greed is a part of the problem, though not nearly as much as dems would like you to think. Another part is this attitude by some that they are owed something, or they have rights to handouts. Neither are true, and both are growing at a dangerous pace.



    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    There is no compassion left in this country,
    You couldnt be more wrong. America is the most compassionate country in the world. What is running thin is our patience in people who's life ambition is to milk the handout system.

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    our $$ are spent on random shit, people are being fooled into agreements that severly hamper their lives, and to top it all off we don't take care of home.
    I agree 100%. Though part of that is consumer ignorance, another part is the fine print that is written in a way that you need a lawyer to understand.


    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    All we can do is hope for the best. I firmly believe that the next 4 will not get worse, and if he has to hand the reigns over in 2012, the President elect will want to continue the directional shift.
    I agree, although I hope the next president shifts us more right and not left. Until this country makes self relaince its #1 priority we will continue to slip on the world stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    What about changin the minds of those expecting their handouts on every 1st and 15th? Greed is a part of the problem, though not nearly as much as dems would like you to think. Another part is this attitude by some that they are owed some, or they have rights to material objects. Neither are true, and both are growing at a dangerous pace.
    I am basing my opinion on the "in my pocket" politicians (all parties) that run rampant across the states. Greedy people in power are the worst b/c they are all in if for self. Better discussed in person IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    You couldnt be more wrong. America is the most compassionate country in the world. What is running thin is our patience in people who's life ambition is to milk the handout system.
    Yes and no. I guess I am leaning on the leaders/business in this country, not so much the people directly. It's hard for me to type it out honestly.

    Also, I agree the gov't assistance system is VERY flawed! I was naive to the fact that as a college student you are eligible for free money in the form of Food Stamps, lol. IMO there are people who need assistance, whether they fucked up or not, but it should be limited and strict. Honestly, its not just the handout system being milked! These big corps are pocketing $ that they know is dirty money. We need to tighten up the checks and balances of every government program AND the accounting practices of big/small business. Loopholes are all throughout and need to be plugged.

    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I agree 100%. Though part of that is consumer ignorance, another part is the fine print that is written in a way that you need a lawyer to understand.
    Consumer ignorance plays a large part, but baiting someone on false pretences is horrible. I do not expect us to "babysit" people in regards to their buying habits, but lets not play on peoples ignorance to get $.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    I am basing my opinion on the "in my pocket" politicians (all parties) that run rampant across the states. Greedy people in power are the worst b/c they are all in if for self. Better discussed in person IMO.
    The career politican is the bane of the American people. We all know they are only out for self, but we continue to re-elect them to new and higher offices based on what they will do for me. JFK said 1 thing that I have always tried to live by, or at least not against "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country". Too many people today have that statement backwards. It's almost hard to believe JFK was a democrat when you look at the dems of today. He would probably be labeled as a far right neo-conservative in todays media.



    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    Yes and no. I guess I am leaning on the leaders/business in this country, not so much the people directly. It's hard for me to type it out honestly.
    I kind of know what you are saying, but I am a far right conservative on economic issues. I think busines is best left to monitor itself and the more govt intrusion in it, the more room there is for corruption on all levels.


    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    Also, I agree the gov't assistance system is VERY flawed! I was naive to the fact that as a college student you are eligible for free money in the form of Food Stamps, lol. IMO there are people who need assistance, whether they fucked up or not, but it should be limited and strict. Honestly, its not just the handout system being milked! These big corps are pocketing $ that they know is dirty money. We need to tighten up the checks and balances of every government program AND the accounting practices of big/small business. Loopholes are all throughout and need to be plugged.
    We need a MAJOR overhaul of handout programs. I have no problem with govt assistance programs, I do have a problem with govt subsistance programs. With all of the oppertunities in this country, if you need govt assistance for more than 3-5 yers it is ONLY because you are not making an effort to help yourself.



    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    Consumer ignorance plays a large part, but baiting someone on false pretences is horrible. I do not expect us to "babysit" people in regards to their buying habits, but lets not play on peoples ignorance to get $.
    Again I agree. People need to take responsibility for themselves and read that fine print, but at the same time, if they take the time to read it and its written in legalese how much good will it do? I know for a fact that I had to go abck through and re-read a loan agreement several times before I had a completel grasp on everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    There is no compassion left in this country.
    Yea, I don't beleive this.. I don't make over $250k, actually far below that. I don't even make 6 figures but I am part of a charity foundation where I have the opportunity to help hundreds of people myself and the entire foundation actually helps thousands. I don't do it cause I have to, I do cause I want to. There is still a lot of compassion left in the world. My Charity is actually a brainstorm of a Multi-millionaire before he passed. He had more money than he could spend but gave a large amount of it away every year. He tried not to give it to the Government as much as possible but gave it away to places that really need it.

    I don't beleive giving an organization like the government more money in taxes is going to help anything when the corrupt politicians continue to spend money on "Wooden Aeroheads for Boy Scouts" and "Golden Toilet Seats". Instead i would rather be able to give money to places and organizations that I know will use it for the growth and progress of the common people, not the politicians pockets or their Pork barrel spending causes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwrape
    Yea, I don't beleive this.. I don't make over $250k, actually far below that. I don't even make 6 figures but I am part of a charity foundation where I have the opportunity to help hundreds of people myself and the entire foundation actually helps thousands. I don't do it cause I have to, I do cause I want to. There is still a lot of compassion left in the world. My Charity is actually a brainstorm of a Multi-millionaire before he passed. He had more money than he could spend but gave a large amount of it away every year. He tried not to give it to the Government as much as possible but gave it away to places that really need it.
    I do the same! I help whenever I can. I will be out this weekend in teh L'ville community

    I guess I could rephrase and say there is not ENOUGH compassion in this country.

    Again, I was focused on the big business and political arena, but I get your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95
    I do the same! I help whenever I can. I will be out this weekend in teh L'ville community

    I guess I could rephrase and say there is not ENOUGH compassion in this country.

    Again, I was focused on the big business and political arena, but I get your point.
    Yea, I just don't agree with paying more taxes, it's throwing good money after bad. Let the people decide what to give their money to. We pay enough taxes now. If we pull out of Iraq we will save a fortune and if we can some how weed out all the bad spending in Washington we can save a ton more and get back to doing business instead of being corrupt and only worrying about #1. Washington is corrupt:fact. I hope Obama can fix this. I won't hold my breath, but I have hope as we all should even though some didn't vote for him, have hope in your new free world leader.
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